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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are tired of.

Post by Nex Carnifex » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:29 pm

"Dragon ball has no blood, no cursing, and no storyline unlike elfen lied its for babies"-some youtuber who has limited comprehension
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are tired of.

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:38 pm

You do know it's a show for kids, right? And that your "some autistic YouTuber" classification is probably grounds enough to get you an account warning here, right?

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't see any good conversation coming from this discussion. I see people bitching about other folks' bitching, and then looking like absolute tools in the process of said bitching about bitching. You're not helping either side, and in fact, making everyone look worse.
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are tired of.

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:01 pm

I personally don't mind "bashing" of Dragon Ball. If there are any sacred cows in the world, a franchise based on a kids' manga series shouldn't be one of them. There are plenty of well-reasoned arguments against the series that we as fans bring up on a regular basis, as well as more than enough legitimate reasons why a non-fan would not find the series appealing or even good.

That said, the nature of the series, that it's intended for and often consumed by kids, makes it so that a lot of "arguments" against it boil down to poorly-written, poorly reasoned flame debates, full of ad hominem attacks and inabilities to accept different opinions. And then there's the flip side: fans who feel that attacks on the series are attacks on them personally and behave accordingly. That is representative of the typical DB bashing comments I am tired of.
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are tired of.

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:06 pm

For those who complain about the voices not being in their language, what should countries that they don't even have their language in text form say? It's not very hard to get used to it, if you try. :wink:
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are tired of.

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:12 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Saiga wrote:Unless we're only talking about the voices and not the text.
That is correct -- I've already explained that.

Again, the Japanese voices have been standard inclusions in the North American releases of all the major console Dragon Ball video games since the "Greatest Hits" re-release of Budokai 3.
Didn't the Gamecube version of Budokai 2 had the Japanese voices to select from as well? I always thought the Gamecube version of Budokai 2 was the first DBZ game to allow players to use the Japanese voice cast?
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are tired of.

Post by sonikku956 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:41 pm

Here's a strange one: "If Dragon Ball is a shonen, then why isn't it as violent as Deadman Wonderland?" This was before it aired on Toonami.

I didn't even know that DW was a shonen.

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Post by Nex Carnifex » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:57 pm

sonikku956 wrote:Here's a strange one: "If Dragon Ball is a shonen, then why isn't it as violent as Deadman Wonderland?" This was before it aired on Toonami.

I didn't even know that DW was a shonen.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:56 pm

I do find it funny that people will hate DB for being a kids show but love Bleach when it's a kids show as well. I remember guy at Gamestop give me shit for still liking DBZ but he had a G1 Transformers t-shirt :roll: .
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Post by Travis Touchdown » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:57 am

I actually don't mind any Dragon Ball bashing. One of things I love about Dragon Ball, is that despite it being a show that I greatly enjoy, I can also make fun of it. Dragon Ball through Z and through GT all have their facepalm moments, and I poke fun at them just as much as a hater, and due to me not playing along and actually agreeing with a hater on a lot of their points, they give up quicker and we move on to something else.
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Post by roidrage » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:10 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
Saiga wrote:Unless we're only talking about the voices and not the text.
That is correct -- I've already explained that.

Again, the Japanese voices have been standard inclusions in the North American releases of all the major console Dragon Ball video games since the "Greatest Hits" re-release of Budokai 3.
Didn't the Gamecube version of Budokai 2 had the Japanese voices to select from as well? I always thought the Gamecube version of Budokai 2 was the first DBZ game to allow players to use the Japanese voice cast?
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are sick of. (read OP)

Post by Ringworm128 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:47 am

Updated the first post.
VegettoEX wrote:
I don't understand. What's more convenient about playing the video games with the English dialog? That you have to go into the options first to switch it?

VegettoEX wrote: That all being said, my Japanese is shit and I easily played through every single game on the PS2 in Japanese along with a sprinkle of other ones on handhelds. If I can do it, you can do it.
You're acting like playing the video games in English is some kind of moral crime. It's not about convenience, some people just like things in their native language. And then theres the people who simply prefer the dub voices. Oops, went of topic. :oops:

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Post by Bussani » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:09 am

ringworm128 wrote:You're acting like playing the video games in English is some kind of moral crime. It's not about convenience, some people just like things in their native language.
Eh? Mike was specifically replying to someone who described it as convenient, and questioning how it was convenient. I don't think he was acting like it was a moral crime or anything.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:31 am

I'm a person who likes to watch things in their original format (Which is why I refuse to buy the Star War blu-rays). I see nothing wrong for people to enjoy the show in Japanese then in English. I never like how some fans will treat the dub as some perfect dub and that we must go by what it says. It's those people who can't enjoy anything unless it's dubbed.
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:40 am

Bussani wrote:Eh? Mike was specifically replying to someone who described it as convenient, and questioning how it was convenient. I don't think he was acting like it was a moral crime or anything.
Bingo.

Other comment refers to things like Battle Stadium D.O.N. and Ultimate Butoden (not to mention the Stars crossover games), which are only available in Japanese. If you want to play them *at all*, you're playing them in Japanese, mission objectives and all.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:55 am

VegettoEX wrote:Other comment refers to things like Battle Stadium D.O.N. and Ultimate Tenkaichi (not to mention the Stars crossover games), which are only available in Japanese.
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:17 am

GAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

I've been doing a lot of video game stuffage lately, so everything with a "Shin" and an "Ultimate" and a "Budokai" and a "Butoden" is all jammed together in my mind. I make no apologies, but I profusely apologize.
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Re: Typical DB bashing comments you are sick of. (read OP)

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:30 am

Nuh, uh, not really, not any more.

Getting angry over comments is stupid.

Trolls on Xbox LIVE now that's something worth trolling about and pissing them off, although, the troll can get trolled back if he's not used to troll correctly.
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Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:24 pm

I can't help laughing on the inside and thinking "what a damn fool!" whenever I hear someone saying how much the original Japanese voice acting and/or soundtrack sucks.

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Post by matt0044 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:12 am

I hate the whole DBZ has no story claim. I'm sorry but... how?

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Post by shonenhikada » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:40 am

1. Goku sucks he got hurt by rocks and glass

2. Goku can't even lift 40 tons he gets beat by hulk

3. Goku died from a planet buster attack he is weak.

4. Freeza did not blow up planet vegeta like in the bardock movie, the movie is non cannon

5. Freeza failed to destroy planet namek no one in dbz is a true planet buster except until we reach to kid buu.

6. Freeza is a core buster

7. Cell solar system busting statement is a hyperbole.

8. High tiers in dragon ball arei only mach 1000+ because the OBD did calculations and they said so.

9. Freeza got killed by a sword, this shows that dragon ball characters are weak.

10. Freeza did not tank a planet exploding in his face while near death it was off panel so he does not hae planet+ durability.

11. Dragon ball martial arts suck compare to DC/Marvel all they do is a few kick, punches and spam ki attacks.

12. Goku/Vegeta are not martial art geniuses they are idiots.

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