Not to mention, the stigma around homosexuality in Japan aren't nearly what they are in the West. Obviously, I can't speak for all Japanese, or, heck, even a single Japanese person, but, from what I've read and heard, it's rather a non-issue. Which is what it should be everywhere.Gyt Kaliba wrote:Sadly, probably not. I've seen that double standard a lot. Gay guys, gross; lesbians, hot. I just don't get how someone can allow one without automatically allowing the other, even if they're not into it.Bussani wrote:Um...yes? Why is it a big deal? Would anyone have made a fuss about this if she'd been drawing Dragon Ball yuri?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Everybody knows this, but... yaoi?
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Some girls, specially otaku girls, love Yaoi. There's nothing wrong about her previous work. Would you complain if another artist joining the franchise had done Tentacle doujins? It doesn't matter one bit. If you really want to draw a line, draw it at Loli and Shota, not Yaoi.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Everybody knows this, but... yaoi?Bussani wrote:Toriyama is a self-proclaimed pervert.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Toriyama discovered and personally selected Ooishi, then he has a very dirty, twisted mind for a married man with children...
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Sadly, I think you'd find that isn't the case. You might get the impression it is from anime, manga, and other media, and it was rather a non-issue in feudal times, but that isn't so much the case now.CaBrPi wrote:Not to mention, the stigma around homosexuality in Japan aren't nearly what they are in the West. Obviously, I can't speak for all Japanese, or, heck, even a single Japanese person, but, from what I've read and heard, it's rather a non-issue. Which is what it should be everywhere.
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Speaking of homosexual stuff, Jun'ya Furusawa, one of those who used to draw a lot of official DB artworks for merchandising, is known for his doujinshi, and some of them are focused on gay stuff (especially chub). He continued publishing them after becoming an official artst. He has an account on Pixiv.
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Oh wow I do recognize Furusawa's artwork on merchandise! I think it was from early Z stuff? It's rare to run into Piccolo/Goku (Piccoloku?) artwork outside of the Head-Cha-La doujinshi. Looks like there's Goku/Chi-Chi stuff in this account too.
It's kind of like a glimpse into the doujinshi scene pre-Vegeta I guess?
It's kind of like a glimpse into the doujinshi scene pre-Vegeta I guess?
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It's from around the beginning of the Android arc to the end of Z IIRC.Chuquita wrote:Oh wow I do recognize Furusawa's artwork on merchandise! I think it was from early Z stuff?


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Wow was I off the mark.
I did remember the "Telebikko" cover art though.
Still, this unofficial artwork is interesting to look at.
I did remember the "Telebikko" cover art though.
Still, this unofficial artwork is interesting to look at.
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I know, I just discuss the possibility that if Toriyama discovered Ooishi, then for a man married with a woman so many years, plus having children, reading yaoi is very strange.AgitoZ wrote:That he himself has nothing to do with. Ooishi wasn't hired to do that either.
Of course it doesn't, I don't care or mind what Ooishi did in the past.AgitoZ wrote:It doesn't affect the franchise in ANY way.
Remember, I was talking about Toriyama, not Ooishi.Bussani wrote:Um...yes? Why is it a big deal? Would anyone have made a fuss about this if she'd been drawing Dragon Ball yuri?
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All right, I get you. But I don't think we have to start thinking Toriyama reads yaoi in his free time (not that there's anything wrong with that) to have discovered her (if, hypothetically, it was he who discovered her). I mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen those covers from the first post before, and I wasn't looking for Dragon Ball yaoi.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I know, I just discuss the possibility that if Toriyama discovered Ooishi, then for a man married with a woman so many years, plus having children, reading yaoi is very strange.
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My bad DBZGTKOSDH, I misunderstood what you meant too.
This is all of the assumption that it was indeed him that found her though.
Yup, such is the power of the internet. If it was actually Toriyama, he could have just been image searching Dragon Ball for some reason, came across the clean covers, and liked the art, or even been open-minded enough to flip through the full doujins just to see more of the art.Bussani wrote:All right, I get you. But I don't think we have to start thinking Toriyama reads yaoi in his free time (not that there's anything wrong with that) to have discovered her (if, hypothetically, it was he who discovered her). I mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen those covers from the first post before, and I wasn't looking for Dragon Ball yaoi.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I know, I just discuss the possibility that if Toriyama discovered Ooishi, then for a man married with a woman so many years, plus having children, reading yaoi is very strange.
This is all of the assumption that it was indeed him that found her though.
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What's "chub"?kei17 wrote:Speaking of homosexual stuff, Jun'ya Furusawa, one of those who used to draw a lot of official DB artworks for merchandising, is known for his doujinshi, and some of them are focused on gay stuff (especially chub). He continued publishing them after becoming an official artst. He has an account on Pixiv.
You know, you can read yaoi or watch any kind of porn, for that matter, without having to be aroused by it. I'm a straight male, but I occasionally watch gay porn if I'm bored or something just to check it out and see what it's like.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I know, I just discuss the possibility that if Toriyama discovered Ooishi, then for a man married with a woman so many years, plus having children, reading yaoi is very strange.AgitoZ wrote:That he himself has nothing to do with. Ooishi wasn't hired to do that either.
And it's not that surprising for Toriyama to, perhaps, be even mildly interested in fanart, regardless of its subject matter, of his most popular manga.
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"Chub" refers to an obese gay man. Jun'ya Furusawa published some doujinshi which deal with chubby gay porn.Piccolo Daimao wrote:What's "chub"?kei17 wrote:Speaking of homosexual stuff, Jun'ya Furusawa, one of those who used to draw a lot of official DB artworks for merchandising, is known for his doujinshi, and some of them are focused on gay stuff (especially chub). He continued publishing them after becoming an official artst. He has an account on Pixiv.






