DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

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Re: DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:44 pm

All of that is so wrong that it's somewhat appalling to read... especially considering what's actual history is well-documented here on the site you're posting on! :)

Infogrames/Atari sub-licensed the North American video game rights to the franchise via FUNimation, who (other than Viz with the manga) is the primary license holder here. Back in October 2007, we learned that FUNimation was claiming Atari was in breach of their contract together, and that they wanted the sub-license terminated. It turned out that FUNimation believed Atari was not living up to their end of the bargain in terms of advertising the Dragon Ball video games. It was settled after another $3.5 million payment to FUNimation. Atari's agreement with FUNimation was to take them through January 2010, at which point the North American branch of Namco-Bandai decided to just take matters into their own hands and distribute their own company's games (in conjunction with FUNimation, of course).

Nowhere in there does anything about any of the game developers (Dimps and/or Spike) get mentioned. They are irrelevant to all of that. The move was made from Dimps to Spike for a new series of games, most likely because Dimps moved on to co-develop Street Fighter IV around that time.
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Post by Hitiro » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:57 pm

VegettoEX wrote:All of that is so wrong that it's somewhat appalling to read... especially considering what's actual history is well-documented here on the site you're posting on! :)

Infogrames/Atari sub-licensed the North American video game rights to the franchise via FUNimation, who (other than Viz with the manga) is the primary license holder here. Back in October 2007, we learned that FUNimation was claiming Atari was in breach of their contract together, and that they wanted the sub-license terminated. It turned out that FUNimation believed Atari was not living up to their end of the bargain in terms of advertising the Dragon Ball video games. It was settled after another $3.5 million payment to FUNimation. Atari's agreement with FUNimation was to take them through January 2010, at which point the North American branch of Namco-Bandai decided to just take matters into their own hands and distribute their own company's games (in conjunction with FUNimation, of course).

Nowhere in there does anything about any of the game developers (Dimps and/or Spike) get mentioned. They are irrelevant to all of that. The move was made from Dimps to Spike for a new series of games, most likely because Dimps moved on to co-develop Street Fighter IV around that time.
Sorry, when I was reffering to them losing their license to do DBZ games I was on about Atari who were the publishers that give the license to Dimps. I probably should have made that more clear.

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Re: DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:04 pm

Hitiro wrote:Sorry, when I was reffering to them losing their license to do DBZ games I was on about Atari who were the publishers that give the license to Dimps. I probably should have made that more clear.
That would still be wrong, because Atari wasn't the company who had the games produced -- it was Namco-Bandai in Japan who oversaw the production of the games. Those three Budokai games may have been released in North America before Japan, but it was still Namco-Bandai in Japan dishing it out to Dimps in Japan to produce the game(s). Atari was just the international sub-licensor via FUNimation. Their squabble with FUNimation had absolutely nothing to do with the production of the games on any level.
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Post by Bluebolt » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:08 pm

It's a bit of a shame. I understand moving up (if I got offered to participate in a famous game series I'd take it). But damn I wish they'd make something like a Burst Limit 2 or sequel to SDBZ. TBH I'd want to wait 5 years for that.

Would it be correct to say the DBZ games are saturated?

EDIT: Where are my manners, thank you Mike for that information. (Especially the part where you said it was already covered ^^'') I'll try harder next time.
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Post by Hitiro » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:22 pm

VegettoEX wrote:That would still be wrong, because Atari wasn't the company who had the games produced -- it was Namco-Bandai in Japan who oversaw the production of the games. Those three Budokai games may have been released in North America before Japan, but it was still Namco-Bandai in Japan dishing it out to Dimps in Japan to produce the game(s). Atari was just the international sub-licensor via FUNimation. Their squabble with FUNimation had absolutely nothing to do with the production of the games on any level.
Then I apologise, I always assumed it was Atari who were the publishers of the game.

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Post by Avenged » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:23 pm

I'm getting rumors sent to me that this game is set to release early November, anyone know bout this? All the retail sites still list dec 31st as a temporary date.
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Post by Hitiro » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:37 pm

Avenged wrote:I'm getting rumors sent to me that this game is set to release early November, anyone know bout this? All the retail sites still list dec 31st as a temporary date.
As far as I know the collection is still without a release date. Do these rumors have any legitimate sources or references you can site?

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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:02 am

Bluebolt wrote:It's a bit of a shame. I understand moving up (if I got offered to participate in a famous game series I'd take it). But damn I wish they'd make something like a Burst Limit 2 or sequel to SDBZ. TBH I'd want to wait 5 years for that.

Would it be correct to say the DBZ games are saturated?

EDIT: Where are my manners, thank you Mike for that information. (Especially the part where you said it was already covered ^^'') I'll try harder next time.
Dimps had no connection to Super Dragonball Z. That game was developed by Crafts & Meister. This is a company formed by an ex-Capcom employee(Noritaka Funamizu) who worked on both Street Fighter 2 and Darkstalkers.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:00 am

Dimps was formed by former Capcom employees too. So was GameRepublic. All of them worked on Street Fighter and Dragon Ball games in their studio's lives. :lol:
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:16 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Dimps was formed by former Capcom employees too. So was GameRepublic. All of them worked on Street Fighter and Dragon Ball games in their studio's lives. :lol:
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Post by Akira » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:11 pm

If the most recent releases are true, and it is Budokai 1 and 3, I am -okay- with that. Budokai 3 was one DBZ fighter that I actually loved to play with my cousins and thoroughly enjoyed. Budokai 1 I couldn't give a flip about playing again though. They omitted Budokai 2, and I'm okay with that, because Budokai 3 was the real gem of that series, and the only one I ever played extensively. I'd think it would be better to include DBZ: Infinite World (Last PS2 DBZ game that was overlooked by most, and although I bought it, it came out after Burst Limit on 360, so I never played it much at all) What would be ideal would be a Budokai 3/Super DBZ combo pack, as those were the best two DBZ fighters. Budokai 1 was cool, but not a game I care to revisit. I hope the Budokai 3 they include is the special edition version that released here as the greatest hits version and included additional character skins for Goku, Piccolo and Future Trunks. If we get that version, then I'll be happy to buy it and just ignore Budokai 1.
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Post by vince90x » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:13 am

So, are these the only games that we have to look forward to this year? It would be nice to have a complete game for once

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:34 pm

oh hey treevax was right this year we are getting three games

they're just blatantly (instead of trying to be stealthy like before) re-releases of old stuff

yay
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:39 pm

I'm pretty happy with this collection. If they didn't release anything then I'm fine since there is other games to play and we don't need to have a new game.
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:48 pm

The only sore spot for me is the apparent lack of online play (which is like missing an limb for most fighting games nowadays.) Other than that, I look forward to at least checking this one out to see if my Budokai 3 skills are still up to snuff. The changed music doesn't bother me either, because I can just put on my custom Kikuchi playlist while playing.
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Post by songohan619 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:14 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:oh hey treevax was right this year we are getting three games

they're just blatantly (instead of trying to be stealthy like before) re-releases of old stuff

yay
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Post by JeffJarrett » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:19 am

songohan619 wrote:What is the third one?
Budokai 1 HD, Budokai 3 HD, and Kinect.

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Post by NECPS » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:53 pm

So I was watching this video here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKW_GL1qahM

You can see the Duel selection screen, the one with Kaio-sama on it.

In greatest hits/collector edition the game was updated a little,
and you would see Kaio-sama image moving its mouth.

It does not happen here so...
you know what I mean.

Definitely keeping the red label one.

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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:00 pm

Well if that's true, then I guess I'll skip out on this one, no real reason to buy something I already with nothing new to offer.

Though, the JPN voice track is tempting....
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:16 pm

This looks really like a mixed bad that puts off the fans and regular gamers to make their minds up of whether purchasing it or not.

For the HD graphics this may be worth it, but the originals for PS2/NGC might be the better deal. Probably.
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