Do the recaps or previews ever contain new, unseen footage?

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Do the recaps or previews ever contain new, unseen footage?

Post by Amiable-Akuma » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:21 pm

What I mean by "unseen" footage - is footage for the prior episode or next episode that isn't shown during their regular runtime...

I ask because I almost never watch either the recap or the previews and I'd like to know if I'm missing anything. Throughout the entire history of the show - have these sequences ever contained new animation/footage?

Beyond that, I'm just curious as to your opinion - if you're the type that always watches either the recap/preview/or both - what is the value for you in it? Why do you do so or enjoy it? I'd like to know - that way, I can decide if I agree with you and perhaps need to start doing the same thing myself...
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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:41 pm

The only time I can think of that there was "new footage" was when the preview for next week's episode would be extremely short 'cuz they'd also throw in a preview for whatever the upcoming movie was.

Why do I like them? The combination of the peppy "CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA" (or "WE GOTTA POWER") instrumental combined with Masako Nozawa's "Ossu! Ora Goku!" just brings a retarded fanboy smile to my face. It's also that whole unconcious-knowing that there's something "next" to watch... knowing it's not done, and there's more to explore.

They're entirely spoiler-ific, so if you genuinely don't know what's coming next, it's probably a good idea not to watch them. The Japanese public already knew well in advance since everyone read the manga :P.
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Post by Panda » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:50 pm

I will usually only watch re-caps and such if I just bought a new series or DVD so I can see where I left off or just to understand how that series handled it.

I think the only series I watched all the previews and re-caps was Excel Saga and it was mainly for the comedic value in them compared to the actual knowing of what's next.

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Post by Amiable-Akuma » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:58 pm

Thanks for your great replies.

I do agree that there is a certain charm in the "Ossu! Ora Goku!" line and Nozawa's voice acting in general.

I guess my personal thing is that since I have such an absolutely terrible memory (it's so bad that, for example, often I completely forget even major things like who exactly killed Cell and how) - the previews do truly end being like these sudden and extremely shocking spoiler sequences for me. Hah, as do even many of the Japanese title cards as well!

So, in my case, I avoid them so I can try to rekindle the feeling of watching the series for the first time. I do see where you're coming from though...

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Post by Panda » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:04 pm

With the Cell Saga, I've always noticed how it irks me that they played HEAD CHA-LA during the re-caps. It just seems inappropriate to play happy-go-lucky music in the middle of the most serious part of the story.

I can understand how it was a weekly production and there simply isn't enough time to create new intrumentals for every mood the story sets but I felt the show could have put some effort into that part at the least.

To be more on topic:

I have terrible memory also so I understand where your going. I'll forget things in hours unless I write them down immediatly. I have even more trouble remembering name to face.

However, I prefer not to watch the re-caps for most of the series because I feel if I need to improve my memory that would be a good excersize to do so (My doctor recomends trying to remember histories).

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Post by MultilangDBZ » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:40 pm

I remember one instance when the recap showed parts where ordinary run time did not.

Very early in DBZ in the Saiyajin Saga when Goku trains under Kaio, the part where he trains to master the Kaio Ken wasn't shown - the narrator only says that he mastered Kaio Ken and Genki Dama (in episode number 20-something).

But in the recap of the following episode, we see Goku smashing up large stone structures with his fist whilst travelling at a high speed and with Kaio watching (showing Goku's training to master the Kaio Ken) - this wasn't shown in the run time of that episode and that of the previous episode.

Apart from that, I don't think was ever any unseen footage in recaps anywhere else in DB, DBZ and GT.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:01 pm

I was one of the ones who absolutely hated the next-episode previews for spoiling too much. So I would change the channel when the ep ended. That's why I was glad they didn't have them on DB and how there was only of one ep for the dvds. Though like EX said, the whole "reading the manga first" thing does apply to me for Naruto due to reading the manga first.

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Post by MultilangDBZ » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:40 pm

Super Sonic wrote:I was one of the ones who absolutely hated the next-episode previews for spoiling too much.
Yeah, likewise - the previews are huge spoilers.

Though, a decade ago I would have watched the preview on TV since DBZ aired only once a week on Saturday nights and I hated to wait that long to find out what would happen. However, the previews were cut out on the channel I watched it on due to saving air time and concessions for other programmes.
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Post by tarsonis » Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:14 pm

The only time I can recall there being new footage in a preview was when they showed Vegeta and Nappa blasting off in their pods to Earth. VegettoEX, I think you pointed this out a while ago somewhere.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:13 pm

Hm, I believe I remember the preview for one of the Trunks episodes having a scene not shown in the actual episode. It's been awhile though, about to start watching again since I'll have the movies box in about 2 months ;)

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Post by Adnan » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:00 pm

I forget the episode number but I recall one recap where you see Goku practising the Kaioken on Kaio's planet and smashing through walls, and it was never in any episode.

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Post by MultilangDBZ » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:26 pm

Adnan wrote:I forget the episode number but I recall one recap where you see Goku practising the Kaioken on Kaio's planet and smashing through walls, and it was never in any episode.
Ah, someone else who also remembers that recap.
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:32 pm

Wow, I thought I just missed that. I was watching that DVD while washing dishes so when I looked back up at the screen it was recaping the last episode with that sence that you discribe. I thought I didn't see it because I was pre-occupied, I even backtracked the DVD to find that part and couldn't. So, what was up with that?

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Post by MultilangDBZ » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:44 pm

For the sake of clarity, I've tracked down that recap in DBZ. It's episode 21 of the original version, beginning at the 2 mins 38 secs mark (timing also the opening song).

Here are a few screenshots:

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This part wasn't shown anywhere in episode 20. I remember when I first saw the recap of episode 21, I actually thought that I had accidentally skipped an episode or two because of it. However, everything else in that recap, like Piccolo training Gohan intensively, was shown in the previous episode.
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Post by kenisu3000 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:20 pm

I believe it's episode 91 when Goku fires that 20x Kaioken Kamehameha at Freeza. Well, the recap in the next episode (92) features one of the (somewhat) rare occurences where the traditional music stops before it even gets to the title card. Once the music end, from the shot of the explosion of Goku's Kamehameha, the scene is re-done - the explosion is rounder (rather than the oval-shaped blast in the previous ep), we get a new shot of Kuririn, Piccolo and Gohan shielding themselves from the dust, then they re-animate the dust clearing from Freeza's hand, and then finally there's this weird (but awesome) shot where Goku looks shocked and then the backdrop gets all dark and Goku's face fades out so there's nothing left but his eyes... did that make sense? :)
And in 161, again the recap: after Cell delivers that heavy kick to Kuririn's neck, we get a new shot of Kuririn sliding across the ground.

And yeah, I noticed the Goku-breaking-through-walls at Kaio-sei footage too, when I went through the episodes in Japanese for the first time. I thought I had missed something in the previous episode!
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Post by Akira » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:35 pm

Yes, the Kaioken training is a vital one to see. At the very beginning of that short scene, you even see Kaio himself demonstrating with Goku but Kaio tires out first while Goku keeps going. I don't know there to be any unseen footage in the "Next time on Dragonball Z" things, and I usually skip them anyway. I always watch the "Last time on Dragonball Z" recaps though. Because of the very things we are talking about here.

There are lots of parts that are exclusive to the recap, and things that are seen from a different point of view in the recap. When they start off the Great Saiyaman episodes with Gohan going to school, that entire "recap" is unique footage as well.

I have cut just the few seconds of the Kaio training from that recap and made a very short video file of it. If anyone who hasn't seen it wants to check it out, they can catch me on AIM and I'll show it to them.

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Post by Tsukento » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:31 pm

I thought the last minute inclusion of the Kaio-Ken training was excellent. You had the top notch animation and you were actually seeing Kaio doing SOMETHING rather than standing around.

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Post by Akira » Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:17 am

I have always loved that clip too ever since I first saw it on a fansub long ago. Watching North Kaio demonstrate Kaioken's basic power is just unimaginably cool to me for some reason. Probably has something to do with the fact that Kaioken is my favorite technique in the entire Dragonball story though..

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Post by jnj13 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:21 am

I think that there was new footage in a recap in an early Dragonball episode (I belive it was the recap of Goku and Chichi going to the Kame House).

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Post by Dayspring » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:22 am

Akira wrote:I have always loved that clip too ever since I first saw it on a fansub long ago. Watching North Kaio demonstrate Kaioken's basic power is just unimaginably cool to me for some reason. Probably has something to do with the fact that Kaioken is my favorite technique in the entire Dragonball story though..
That might be why it may been taken out of the episode itself, if Toei edited the episoe that is, since earlier Kaio had already mentioned that he never mastered kaioken.
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