"Power-up" theory.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:07 pm

Without the Cells of Freeza and King Cold he would probably look human.

HUMAN?! Wouldn't he be a cross between a Saiyan and a Namek?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:34 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Without the Cells of Freeza and King Cold he would probably look human.
HUMAN?! Wouldn't he be a cross between a Saiyan and a Namek?

Not really. He absorbed some humans, like Tenshinhan (and others? I can't remember). Saiyans are also dead ringers for humans. Considering that he only had the cells of one Namek, the ratio of human-like to Namek cells is vastly tipped in favour of the former.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:55 pm

Not Tenshinhan. Taiyoken is easy to use so it was probably a technique of Goku. I don't think absorbing energy from people is the same as being cloned from them. Since Cell is made up of only Saiyans, Nameks and Freeza+King Cold, I think he'd be a cross between Saiyan+Namek, though I agree that Saiyans + Humans are fraggin' similar.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:11 pm

Namek, singular, rather than Saiyans, plural.

And didn't he take some of Tenshinhan's cells at the tornament?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:38 pm

The Cell games? That HAS to be anime only.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:40 pm

No, the Ten Bud where young Goku fought Tenshinhan. The one that Gero's probe ladybird thing was apparently watching.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:47 pm

Oh. That's also anime-only then. Manga was Piccolo, Goku and Vegeta when they fought Vegeta on Earth, and Freeza+King Cold when they were killed by Trunks. Cell said he WANTED some of Trunks but that he already had too many Saiyan cells. No mention of any human anywhere.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:47 pm

I think that's just filler, plus I don't know if it showed the bug actually taking any cells from Tenshinhan, did it?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:19 am

Ahh, sorry. I was getting the "bug studying Goku's techniques" flashback confused with the "cells gathered from various people" flashback. My bad.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:11 pm

I always assumed that they had the Saiyan recovery trait with them the entire series, but as they used it, the effect dramatically decreased. For somebody like Cell, who hadn't been under its effect much, it was still potent.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:15 pm

I tend to agree with the theory that it was kind of "forgotten" by Toriyama, which certainly wouldn't be a first!

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:11 pm

I too would have gone with the "he forgot it after the Freeza saga" theory, except that Toriyama goes and buggers that up by using it with Cell. So I'll agree with MaCChaos' idea that the effect becomes less noticable each time it is used, so it wasn't overly effective for the Z fighters during the Cell saga, but it was for Cell.

(I can certainly see Vegeta almost killing himself training several times while trying to become a Super Saiyan.)

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