SS Gohan (pre-25th TB training) vs. Piccolo and SS Goten (Boo arc)
Although Gohan's pretty rusty, I think he's still too much stronger than both of them for Piccolo's knowledge of his capabilities and Goten's surprising strength to do much of any worth.
Kaioushin (no psychic powers) vs. SS Gokuu (Cell Games)
I personally think that they're dead even, but Gokuu could probably end it with a Shunkan-Idou Kamehameha.
Super Boo (only SS Vegetto absorbed) vs. SS4 Gokuu (Boo arc, via Z logic)
Boo wins with relative ease. Vegetto, being ridiculously strong by himself, just gets even stronger when he's absorbed by Boo. Even if SS4 is, at most, base x500 (Oozaru's x10 multiplied by SS's x50), I don't think Gokuu would be able to match Vegetto-Boo's much higher power.
Mr. Satan & Videl (merged with Potara) vs. King Chapa (22nd TB)
While I don't think that they're the best match (obvious difference in height, opposite genders, opposing attitudes towards martial arts) and they'd probably wind up somewhat weaker than Chapa, Videl's flight would give them the advantage to win, whether it be via a surprise attack or simply wearing Chapa out by staying out of his reach.
dbzfan7 wrote:Tenshinhan 22nd TB vs Yajirobe(first appearance)
Tenshinhan can fly, is a skilled and gifted martial artist, has had proper ki training from the Tsuru-sen School, and has an array of useful techniques, such as the Taiyouken, Shiyouken, and Kikouhou. All Yajirobe has is a katana, so he'd hold his own for a while before eventually being defeated.
In Brightest Day wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:Since Olivuu held his own with Paikuhan, who easily defeated super-complete Cell, I'd say that Olivuu would wreck Dabra. Even if Dabra did get a chance to spit at him, Olivuu would be more than fast enough to dodge it.
Paikuhan was using his Bāningu Shūto technique though, which by the look of things is basically the Kaio-Ken. Goku didn't do any training in the lead up to the tournament and aside from a close call with Arqua, he didn't even really have a serious challenge up until the final round. From what I remember, Goku kind of crapped himself when Super Perfect Cell charged at him too.
Unless I've missed something, I don't see how people could think Paikuhan's base strength is >>> Cell, especially when Goku literally didn't do any training.
Nothing to suggest that Paikuuhan's Burning Shoot is a technique like the Kaiouken. The scene was meant to show that Paikuhan was this super-strong guy who could take out Cell in one hit. And during his fight with Paikuuhan at the tournament, he was on the defensive the whole time. The only reason he "won" was because he teleported out of the way of Paikuuhan's Thunder Flash and nailed him with a Kamehameha.
Not to mention the fact that Toei just don't seem to know or care about the strength difference between base and Super Saiyan, so their power-scaling is whacked. This wasn't unique to
GT; it being a completely original series not based on Toriyama's manga, Toei had free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted. It's basically their crappy filler made into a series.
PiccoloFan7289 wrote:Cell Games Goku and Piccolo vs. Cell Games Vegeta and Trunks. All are willing to kill.
Gokuu’s a good deal stronger than all three of them anyway, so he wouldn’t even need Piccolo’s help to put the smack down on Vegeta and Trunks.
PiccoloFan7289 wrote:Cell Games Goku vs. Cell Games Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks
I actually believe that Piccolo was closer to Vegeta and Trunks than people give him credit for (all three of them were left standing at the end of the fight with the Cell Juniors, suggesting that Piccolo’s in the same league as them), so they have more of a chance against Gokuu here.
If they’re lucky, Piccolo and Trunks could stall Gokuu while Vegeta charges up a Final Flash. Even if it doesn’t kill him, it would still severely injure him enough for their combined efforts to overpower them.
