General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuchi?

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General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuchi?

Post by Aoi » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:58 pm

I know that a lot of people had complaints about Parts 5-8 with the Kikuchi inserts. They said that the songs they used were very repetitive and the placement was mostly awkward. What is the general consensus for the new placement for Parts 1-4 with the Kikuchi tracks? I'm curious to see if they are worth replacing the Yamamoto originals with or not.

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:34 pm

For those that never seen Kai before then they shouldn't worry, watch it as it is, it's no masterpiece but worth watching.

Anywho, from what I've seen from a few episodes (Saiyan and Friеza's saga) they seemed to have more variety than later on (Android and Cell).
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by kei17 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:38 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Anywho, from what I've seen from a few episodes (Saiyan and Friеza's saga) they seemed to have more variety than later on (Android and Cell).
Actually, earlier episodes have the same numbers of pieces of music. Things are even worse to those who have seen Z because pieces from later arcs sound very out-of-place.

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:40 am

The ones that I watched were 3, 4 and one from Friеza which was Episode 47, I think.

I'm not really concerned with the out-of-place BGMs, for me it was better to have more variety regardless of fitting/unfitting. I liked it, so can't complain.
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:26 pm

How do I know if I have the replacement score for Parts 3 and 4?

Are there any side by side comparisons online?

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by theawesomepossum777 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:13 pm

LordCrumb wrote:How do I know if I have the replacement score for Parts 3 and 4?

Are there any side by side comparisons online?
Well, when and where did you buy your DVDs?

Here's a comparsion.

Yamamoto Score
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eKFfmtl ... ure=fvwrel

Replacement Score
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g1fnBn9 ... ontext-chv

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by Gonstead » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:43 pm

LordCrumb wrote:How do I know if I have the replacement score for Parts 3 and 4?

Are there any side by side comparisons online?
Part 3 still contains Yamamoto.

However if you bought Part 4 in Aus/NZ, it'll definitely have Kikuchi.
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:51 pm

Gonstead wrote:
LordCrumb wrote:How do I know if I have the replacement score for Parts 3 and 4?

Are there any side by side comparisons online?
Part 3 still contains Yamamoto.

However if you bought Part 4 in Aus/NZ, it'll definitely have Kikuchi.

Thanks heaps :)

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by Gonstead » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:59 pm

LordCrumb wrote:
Gonstead wrote:
LordCrumb wrote:How do I know if I have the replacement score for Parts 3 and 4?

Are there any side by side comparisons online?
Part 3 still contains Yamamoto.

However if you bought Part 4 in Aus/NZ, it'll definitely have Kikuchi.

Thanks heaps :)
Just remember that The US Part 4 version contains Yamamoto and will be difficult to find for a good price.
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:12 pm

Gonstead wrote:Just remember that the US Part 4 version contains Yamamoto and will be difficult to find for a good price.
True.

It's hard to give it a reasonable price when the others have steep prices.

It's a rip-off to be selling it for $90 due to the fact it has like 12 episodes but it's an OoP item so it's a rarity.
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by BluezaBladeNZ » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:14 pm

Gonstead wrote:However if you bought Part 4 in Aus/NZ, it'll definitely have Kikuchi.
With Part 4 of the Madman release, the DVD release would definitely have it but I'm really unsure about whether the Blu-ray version does or not since I have the first three parts and they have the discs taken straight from the US release with no label reprints, region change etc so it could be 50/50.

It sucks how they haven't brought JB Hi-Fi to Christchurch yet (really wanting them to) so I can't check for myself.

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:16 pm

I'll shoot MadMan NZ an email and see what they say.. although I have emailed them in the past about things and have had no response.

JB is online, but their prices are sometimes cheaper in stores (specials) http://shop.jbhifi.co.nz/dvd/dvd-genres ... -ray/54831

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:51 am

Sorry, just another question.. confirmation of sorts.. was Collection 4 Blu-Ray (American) replaced, or did they just wait till they did the 'Season' set before they changed the music? So if I bought Collection 4 by itself from America, I would get the original music?

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by Gonstead » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:26 am

LordCrumb wrote:Sorry, just another question.. confirmation of sorts.. was Collection 4 Blu-Ray (American) replaced, or did they just wait till they did the 'Season' set before they changed the music? So if I bought Collection 4 by itself from America, I would get the original music?
Part 5 is when the music changed to the original Kikuchi tracks.

Everything Pre-Part 5 will contain Yamamoto (barring the Madman version of 4) and everything Post-Part 4 contains Kikuchi.
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:59 am

Thanks again mate.

I just bought Collection 4 Blu-Ray on Ebay for $US13.. I am getting it shipped to a friend over there, and he will forward it on to be (seller only shipped within the US).

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Post by Gonstead » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:22 am

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by Aoi » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Great to hear guys, I'll be picking up my Kikuchi scored Season 1 today.

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:03 pm

BluezaBladeNZ wrote:
Gonstead wrote:However if you bought Part 4 in Aus/NZ, it'll definitely have Kikuchi.
With Part 4 of the Madman release, the DVD release would definitely have it but I'm really unsure about whether the Blu-ray version does or not since I have the first three parts and they have the discs taken straight from the US release with no label reprints, region change etc so it could be 50/50.

It sucks how they haven't brought JB Hi-Fi to Christchurch yet (really wanting them to) so I can't check for myself.

Got an email from MadMan New Zealand regarding Part 4 Blu-Ray:
Morning Again,

We were required by the licensor to release it with the replaced soundtrack

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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:54 pm

MadMan are still keeping their Part Four Kai Blu-ray edition alive while the US version has been officially discontinued, but the US only featured the original soundtrack so there's no mix ups.

LordCrumb @ You bought Part Four BD for $13? That's really cheap. At the time this was out Amazon charged me $39 for it, but converting to pounds it cost less (£24) and I wanted it, so I decided to pay and receive it.

The original score does make Kai feel cinematic.
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Re: General consensus on Parts 1-4 music placement w/ Kikuch

Post by LordCrumb » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:26 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:MadMan are still keeping their Part Four Kai Blu-ray edition alive while the US version has been officially discontinued, but the US only featured the original soundtrack so there's no mix ups.

LordCrumb @ You bought Part Four BD for $13? That's really cheap. At the time this was out Amazon charged me $39 for it, but converting to pounds it cost less (£24) and I wanted it, so I decided to pay and receive it.

The original score does make Kai feel cinematic.
Yeah I am pretty happy with the price, even with shipping added on to get it to me (i've bought a few things so my friend is waiting till they all arrive at his place), it should end up being about the same price as it is over here, but it will have the original audio, which makes it worth while.

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