The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:31 pm

Piccolo Complete vs SSJ3 Gotenks

Piccolo complete is when in supersonic warriors he combined with Piccolo Daimao. He was equal with Super Boo. Though he said he couldn't destroy him. Gotenks can though. So they may have a minor difference in power between them.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by mysticboy » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:35 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Piccolo Complete vs SSJ3 Gotenks

Piccolo complete is when in supersonic warriors he combined with Piccolo Daimao. He was equal with Super Boo. Though he said he couldn't destroy him. Gotenks can though. So they may have a minor difference in power between them.
Piccolo. Far more experienced, far more skilled. Plus, Gotenks has a time limit.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:01 pm

If they're relatively even in power, then Piccolo wins because he's mutha-effin' Piccolo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:04 pm

Gotenks stomps because SSW is full of shit thinking Piccolo would become that strong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:15 pm

Saiga wrote:Gotenks stomps because SSW is full of shit thinking Piccolo would become that strong.
Well Piccolo did get a lot stronger from merging with God. God had a measly power level compared to piccolo. I see where you stand but being full of shit is not an excuse to decide a victor. Gotenks is slightly more powerful though.
Kaboom wrote:If they're relatively even in power, then Piccolo wins because he's mutha-effin' Piccolo.
Actually Gotenks is a little stronger since he could destroy Boo while Piccolo couldn't. Though Piccolo is stated to be even with Super Boo, so they can't be too far apart.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:18 pm

If Piccolo got such enormous power boosts from his prior two Fusions, there's no reason for him not to get a likewise huge one from a third.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:21 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Saiga wrote:Gotenks stomps because SSW is full of shit thinking Piccolo would become that strong.
Well Piccolo did get a lot stronger from merging with God. God had a measly power level compared to piccolo. I see where you stand but being full of shit is not an excuse to decide a victor. Gotenks is slightly more powerful though.
He didn't really get that much stronger if he was already able to rival 20 prior to the merger. I think he'd become twice as strong at the most.

So merging with Daimao shouldn't make him strong enough to fight on any Boo's level. I'm just discounting the power level SSW has for him. A "Complete" Piccolo wouldn't be anywhere near that powerful, and would lose.

Although really he'd lose the fight even with SSW's bullshit power because he's got absolutely nothing on Gotenks.

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It seems his merge with Kami provided a faaaaaaaaar smaller boost than his merge with Nail, so merging with Daimao shouldn't do shit.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:23 pm

Saiga wrote:
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Saiga wrote:Gotenks stomps because SSW is full of shit thinking Piccolo would become that strong.
Well Piccolo did get a lot stronger from merging with God. God had a measly power level compared to piccolo. I see where you stand but being full of shit is not an excuse to decide a victor. Gotenks is slightly more powerful though.
He didn't really get that much stronger if he was already able to rival 20 prior to the merger. I think he'd become twice as strong at the most.

So merging with Daimao shouldn't make him strong enough to fight on any Boo's level. I'm just discounting the power level SSW has for him. A "Complete" Piccolo wouldn't be anywhere near that powerful, and would lose.

Although really he'd lose the fight even with SSW's bullshit power because he's got absolutely nothing on Gotenks.

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It seems his merge with Kami provided a way smaller boost than his merge with Nail, so merging with Daimao shouldn't do shit.
I don't douhgt it due to Piccolo magically being able to be near super saiyan level after training with Goku. He grew over 100x stronger. He was compared to be near SSJ. So the merger doesn't seem implausible. Thank you for the better answer though.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:27 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
I don't douhgt it due to Piccolo magically being able to be near super saiyan level after training with Goku. He grew over 100x stronger. He was compared to be near SSJ. So the merger doesn't seem implausible. Thank you for the better answer though.
Yeah, but that's not really consistent. His RoSaT training doesn't seem to give him that kind of increase either.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:28 pm

Saiga wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
I don't douhgt it due to Piccolo magically being able to be near super saiyan level after training with Goku. He grew over 100x stronger. He was compared to be near SSJ. So the merger doesn't seem implausible. Thank you for the better answer though.
Yeah, but that's not really consistent. His RoSaT training doesn't seem to give him that kind of increase either.
It's dragonball. It never makes sense entirely. I put it in the same category as Zenkai. They are even more unrealistic to Piccolo and just seem to give power ups to whatever the plot wants.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:37 pm

Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Piccolo's mergers are his equivalent to the Saiyans' healing boosts. They manage to make him just as powerful as he needs to be.
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Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:39 pm

Just as powerful as he needs to be to lose, it seems. :P
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:31 pm

Against someone who has a hundred times more power in reserve to pull out at a whim by transforming, and against someone whose stamina never runs out? Yeah, admittedly.

But against someone who likes to waste time with goofy attacks and needless showboating while his power flushes itself away completely over a mere five minutes? Yeah, Piccolo's gonna win that one. He's too smart and skilled NOT to.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:36 pm

Kaboom wrote:Against someone who has a hundred times more power in reserve to pull out at a whim by transforming, and against someone whose stamina never runs out? Yeah, admittedly.

But against someone who likes to waste time with goofy attacks and needless showboating while his power flushes itself away completely over a mere five minutes? Yeah, Piccolo's gonna win that one. He's too smart and skilled NOT to.
Since neither of those things have every actually helped him, I'm going to say no. He couldn't destroy Boo, yet Gotenks could reduce him to smoke. Gotenks would just vaporize him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by mysticboy » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:25 pm

I though dbzfan7 was basically asking who'd win at roughly equal power levels.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:35 pm

Piccolo on even power levels is going to be too much for people like Gohan / Gotenks .

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:50 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Piccolo on even power levels is going to be too much for people like Gohan / Gotenks .
I can't see any reason why.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:55 pm

It's less a matter of strength and more one of competence.
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Post by Saiga » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:10 am

Kaboom wrote:It's less a matter of strength and more one of competence.
It's not like Piccolo has a very good track record in that either.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:48 am

Base Vegeta vs Suppressed Piccolo

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