Gogeta vs Super Buu - Stardustbreaker used on the latter

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Gogeta vs Super Buu - Stardustbreaker used on the latter

Post by CaptainKatsura » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:00 pm

Normally I would put it in general versus thread, but I'm also interested in effects of certain technique that Gogeta used to finish off Janemba without killing the ogre boy. What if Stardust Breaker (as it called in European edition of Tenkaichi Budokai 3, I don't know the original Japanese version) was used on Super Buu to finish him off? Could it leave Mr. Buu intact and unharmed while destroying only evil that Super Buu contained?

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:42 pm

Perhaps. I mean, I guess they're similar methods of evil-possessing or whatever, but not exactly the same, so we can't know for sure.
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Re: Gogeta vs Super Buu - Stardustbreaker used on the latter

Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:16 am

Also we're not sure on how the "Stardust Breaker" works exactly. It's also known as "The Soul Punisher", but I'm not sure if that's the official name either. However, it's seems like a more appropriate name given the effects of it only effecting evil souls.

It's possible that Gogeta could've used it on Super Boo to kill him, but I'm not entirely sure if Fat Boo would've been unaffected.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:47 am

If it was used on Evil Boo, I guess Mr. Boo would appear.
Ketchup_Revenge wrote:Also we're not sure on how the "Stardust Breaker" works exactly. It's also known as "The Soul Punisher", but I'm not sure if that's the official name either. However, it's seems like a more appropriate name given the effects of it only effecting evil souls.
Both names are official. They were used in video-games.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Darkprince410 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:33 pm

Just because they're used in the video games doesn't necessarily make them "official" as far as the actual manga or anime. That's just an interpretive standpoint that the game developers took for the names, just like the countless other names that they've created simply because those attacks needed names for the games. Like Heat Dome Blast for the attack Trunks used to destroy Cell in his own timeline, the "Big Tree" Cannon that young Trunks has, and so on.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:51 pm

Darkprince410 wrote:Just because they're used in the video games doesn't necessarily make them "official" as far as the actual manga or anime.
What are you talking about? All the Dragon Ball games are made by Bandai Namco, who were given the rights by Shueisha & Toei, the companies that made the manga & the anime.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Gogeta vs Super Buu - Stardustbreaker used on the latter

Post by Darkprince410 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:08 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Darkprince410 wrote:Just because they're used in the video games doesn't necessarily make them "official" as far as the actual manga or anime.
What are you talking about? All the Dragon Ball games are made by Bandai Namco, who were given the rights by Shueisha & Toei, the companies that made the manga & the anime.
I know that, but that's no different than how the Star Wars game for the Kinect has Han Solo doing a dance off in Cloud City. Even though the company has the rights to the intellectual property, what they do with that property wouldn't necessarily have to become canon to the original source material. Stardust Breaker or Soul Punisher, while the official names in the games, might not be recognized as the official names as far as Toei is concerned.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:33 pm

Darkprince410 wrote:Even though the company has the rights to the intellectual property, what they do with that property wouldn't necessarily have to become canon to the original source material.
I see, that's what you mean. I also don't take the video-game names as canon names, but that's up to the individual fan to decide.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Gogeta vs Super Buu - Stardustbreaker used on the latter

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:49 pm

Sometimes I used video game terms names because they don't have official names to them. Anyways, it's hard to tell since we know very little about the attack. I don't think the attack was in the Daizenshuu or any data books?
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