Surviving Saiya-jins

[Xyex]

Because of a new Fanfiction idea I've been developing, I've been putting a good deal of thought into the destruction of Planet Vegeta and how many Saiya-jins survived, and why and how they did. Unfortunately, I can't remember what was directly said in the series about survivors. Did Raditz or Vegeta or someone ever specifically state that only the three of them (four, counting Goku) survived the destruction of Planet Vegeta, or did they just say they were simply 'the only ones left' leaving room for other survivors (that they knew about) who have since died in the intervening years?

Also, was any reason given specifically as to why Dodoria and his men were sent to Meat to kill Bardock's team? Was that just a one team deal, or do you think Freeza sent his other elites like Kui and Zarbon out with men to wipe out other off world Saiya-jin teams?

[Herms]

Raditz says this this in chapter 197:

The Saiyans were a scarce race even from the start, but to top it off, Planet Vegeta exploded from a collision with a gigantic meteorite…Almost all of the Saiyans vanished into space dust…Including our father and mother. Even counting you, only 4 Saiyans remain! Me and one other were off attacking another planet and so were saved. And the other one was fortune enough to have been sent off to a planet, like you were.

As for Bardock's team, Freeza had them killed because he was beginning his plan to eradicate the Saiyans, so they probably weren't the only group to be attacked, but I don't think it's explicitly stated.

[Eire]

Regarding OT- surviving Saiyan is the most overdosed cliché in DB fanfiction. Especially when it comes into Vegeta's/Goku's sisters. You can think that their dads had nothing better to do than producing superstrong females.

[Gonstead]

Regarding OT- surviving Saiyan is the most overdosed cliché in DB fanfiction. Especially when it comes into Vegeta's/Goku's sisters. You can think that their dads had nothing better to do than producing superstrong females.

Add that to the list of "Gohan and School visit Capsule Corp", "The 3 year Gap", "Gohan's Depression" and other such cliche stories for DB Fan Fiction.

[Eire]

Believe me, you don't want me to list the clichés that I came across.
Edit: or maybe one or two
You were warned, reading on your own responsibility!
Vegeta being raped by Frieza, Gohan gets pregnat by Piccolo

[Xyex]

Yeah, it is a little overused, but it also allows so many possibilities. My survivor wont be a lost sister or brother, though he might be Goku's uncle (from his mother's side). That's how it's shaping up so far, at least.

Anyway, I'm still trying to square away the low number of survivors with the events of the series/special here. There seems to be no reason to assume that Bardock's team was the only one attacked by Freeza's forces, yet Raditz says that he, Nappa, and Vegeta survived because they were on missions off world. So why spare them and not any other teams?

[Eire]

Pride over prejudice and common sense. Frieza left Vegeta and his servants alive because he wanted to amuse himself with having a prince of the dead nation on a leash.

[Xyex]

Based on the quote Herms gave, I think it's safe to assume that Raditz was off with Nappa on one mission while Vegeta was off on his own elsewhere, on a different mission. So if the entire point was just to keep the Saiyan prince around as a 'pet' there wouldn't have been need to keep Raditz and Nappa, too.

[Eire]

You wouldn't make a good evil overlord What is the pleasure from humiliating a helpless prince if you can't humiliate him on the front of his helpless yet devoted people? Nappa seems to be a kind of governess/tutor of Vegeta, so Raditz could be kept just for the company.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well, when Trunks transforms into a Super Saiyan, Vegeta seems pretty damn sure that there could be no surviving Saiyans other than him, Gokuu and Gohan. So it's safe to assume that there was no other Saiyans but them.

And yeah, I think that Freeza had his henchmen wipe out other Saiyans in teams, and then nuked the rest of Planet Vegeta. Vegeta survived because Freeza knew his power would be a great asset to his empire, and Nappa was his bodyguard thus worth keeping around, and Freeza just couldn't care less about the fate of a low-level Saiyan like Raditz. Either way, Freeza was afraid of a large number of Saiyans ganging up on him. He was probably pretty nonchalant about the whole thing and confident that three Saiyans wouldn't be able to do shit against him now, so he let them live to toy with them. He's still making business, at the end of the day.

[Gonstead]

Believe me, you don't want me to list the clichés that I came across.
Edit: or maybe one or two
You were warned, reading on your own responsibility!
Vegeta being raped by Freeza, Gohan gets pregnat by Piccolo

I've seen one instance of the first and have actually seen the reverse happen with the second.

Future Bulma x Future Gohan is another huge cliche.

And ever since Episode of Bardock, Time Travel is really becoming really cliche as of late, especially with Gohan as the main protagonist of all people.

[Eire]

Now it's harder to see them, since fanfiction started enforcing the aniti-porn rules. Before that there was also a great chance to find a slavefic (usually AU BulmaxVegeta). And Brolly is a rapist (well, IMHO he looks like he had no clue that people can be used for another things than smashing them around). Well, to be fair I must say that I've seen as many as two Dragon Ball ffs with decently described sex scenes, but that's hardly unique for our fandom. Sex is always hard to describe, even for skilled writer, not to mention 15 years old virgins.

From safe for children plot ideas
-King Vegeta and Bardock come back from the dead, visit their kids
-Gohan in high school
-Vegeta's mother dies at his birth (my private berserk button- if kids have no knowledge about the bases of medicine there's still a common sense)
-King Vegeta search for a wife
-Villain coming back from hell, being reformed
-PanxTrunks
-Chi-chi marrying Piccolo for the sake of the Gohan
-Bulma seduces clueless Vegeta

[Hellspawn28]

Regarding OT- surviving Saiyan is the most overdosed cliché in DB fanfiction. Especially when it comes into Vegeta's/Goku's sisters. You can think that their dads had nothing better to do than producing superstrong females.

Add that to the list of "Gohan and School visit Capsule Corp", "The 3 year Gap", "Gohan's Depression" and other such cliche stories for DB Fan Fiction.

Don't forget to add AF stuff like Xicor or anything else like a SSj5 on the list as well. That's why I don't write DB fan fiction since every idea has been pretty much done to death already.

I doubt any there is any surviving Saiya-jins after Nappa, Radditz, Vegeta and Goku. There is also Table if you think that the Jump Special is apart of the manga. Tullece, Broli and Paragas movies don't fit into neither timelines, so they don't count.

[Xyex]

Well, when Trunks transforms into a Super Saiyan, Vegeta seems pretty damn sure that there could be no surviving Saiyans other than him, Gokuu and Gohan. So it's safe to assume that there was no other Saiyans but them.

And prior to Raditz remembering Goku Vegeta was certain that there were only 3 Saiyans left. Plus, if you take the Jump Special into account, there's also Table. And if Bardock hadn't rushed off to Planet Vegeta after surviving Dodoria's mouth blast, but gone off to some other world to train or whatever, and thusly survived, Vegeta wouldn't have known about him, either. I think the main reason he believes that there are no other Saiyans around is ego. I'm sure that in his mind all surviving Saiyans should flock to him, since he's their Prince. Since none did, none are left.

And yeah, I think that Freeza had his henchmen wipe out other Saiyans in teams, and then nuked the rest of Planet Vegeta. Vegeta survived because Freeza knew his power would be a great asset to his empire, and Nappa was his bodyguard thus worth keeping around, and Freeza just couldn't care less about the fate of a low-level Saiyan like Raditz.

Nappa seems be some sort of bodyguard for him, but at the same time it also seems that he was off with Raditz, not Vegeta, when the planet was destroyed. :/ Oi.

[VegettoEX]

I always saw Nappa as more of an attendant to Vegeta than a bodyguard, which would also give him a little bit more of an "out" in terms of not being with Vegeta every single waking moment.

[Xyex]

Hmm, true. It's not like he really needs a body guard. Even as a kid in the Bardock special he was at least as strong as Nappa, if not stronger.

And now I'm wondering if Raditz lived only by pure luck. Freeza chose to keep Vegeta and Nappa, who may have been the two strongest (recorded) Saiyans alive at the time (ignoring the King, of course) and Raditz simply had the luck of being on a mission with Nappa at the time. Makes the most sense to me, at least.

[Saiga]

What about Planet Saiya? I can't remember what media that was mentioned in, but wouldn't that have surviving Saiyans on it?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

What about Planet Saiya? I can't remember what media that was mentioned in, but wouldn't that have surviving Saiyans on it?

The GT Perfect files suggest such a planet could exist, but don't actually say it does. Anyway, all we know is when the Saiyans we're familiar with ended up landing on Plant, we don't have a clue as to when they actually left Saiya. Could have been hundreds of thousands of years ago, and the Saiya "Saiyans" may not even be fighters anymore...maybe they evolved into a race of accountants by now or something, or maybe they became Earthlings and Saiya is/was Earth. Breeding explanation, ho! =P

[Eire]

Or it was destroyed by 1st LSSJ. Or so I heard.

And now I'm wondering if Raditz lived only by pure luck. Freeza chose to keep Vegeta and Nappa, who may have been the two strongest (recorded) Saiyans alive at the time (ignoring the King, of course) and Raditz simply had the luck of being on a mission with Nappa at the time. Makes the most sense to me, at least.

Or he purposely let him live to humiliate Vegeta on the front of his subordinates. Yay, maybe I should conquer something

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Or it was destroyed by 1st LSSJ. Or so I heard.

Only for the dub; which made for a slightly more exciting legend than the original, but still a change that shouldn't have been made. lol