Well, the Jump special was pre-Oob anyway, so odds are he just hadn't retired the orange colors yet at that point.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If they wanted to bring the orange colors back for Mutliverse, I wish they would have at least made some sort of effort to acknowledge that it was because the tournament was a special occasion or something (kinda like the JSAT).
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Most likely. But he did go back to wearing a symbol; specifically the kame symbol, which he hadn't donned since before Freeza. So, it still kind of fits.Kaboom wrote:Well, the Jump special was pre-Oob anyway, so odds are he just hadn't retired the orange colors yet at that point.
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Allow me.Storm101 wrote:Next page is leaked, but without text.
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Huh, I noticed that the art on these pages is very superior than the final vectorized art...TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Now I'm pissed...the original rough draft apparently had Goku in his blue dogi.
Goku adopting the blue dogi came off as a sign of development for his character to me, even if a bit minor. I don't know why they had to go back and change it the orange, even if it is iconic. It's not like I think he couldn't change to another dogi from the blue one, but putting him in the exact same orange one from the Cell/Buu Arc feels like a wrong step backward to me... I dunno, maybe it's just me. *shurg*
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You're really comparing a rough draft to a final product?Fox666 wrote:Huh, I noticed that the art on these pages is very superior than the final vectorized art...
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Yeah, and I agree with him for the most part. For example, the first one on the page, with everyone reacting to the Broli-Vegetto beam clash. It has more dynamic angles and character positioning within the panels that is truer to Toriyama's style than the finalized product. Especially the first one with Goku and Gohan IMO.Sun-Wukong wrote:You're really comparing a rough draft to a final product?
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I think the original draft has Goku like that because Gogeta prefers it that way. He has his own post-manga comic that keeps Goku in the blue dogi on his own website.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Now I'm pissed...the original rough draft apparently had Goku in his blue dogi.
Goku adopting the blue dogi came off as a sign of development for his character to me, even if a bit minor. I don't know why they had to go back and change it the orange, even if it is iconic. It's not like I think he couldn't change to another dogi from the blue one, but putting him in the exact same orange one from the Cell/Buu Arc feels like a wrong step backward to me... I dunno, maybe it's just me. *shurg*
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I thought this was the legit text for a second. The 'Ah Ah' sold it.TonyTheTiger wrote:Allow me.Storm101 wrote:Next page is leaked, but without text.
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Gives me the feeling that Gogeta Jr. wanted the blue dogi, but Salagir wanted to change it because it reminded him of GT... 
That comic is also made by him & Salagir, before abandoning it for DBM.Saiga wrote:He has his own post-manga comic that keeps Goku in the blue dogi on his own website.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I hope that isn't the real reason because that would be so dumb if it was true. It wasn't even from GT.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Gives me the feeling that Gogeta Jr. wanted the blue dogi, but Salagir wanted to change it because it reminded him of GT...
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Salagir seems to hate GT more than his mother's killer, so it doesn't sound impossible to me.Insertclevername wrote:I hope that isn't the real reason because that would be so dumb if it was true.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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The art looks really great. Gogeta Jr. has improved!
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Now all I can imagine Salagir as is a french Batman, dedicated to wiping out GT rather than crime.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Salagir seems to hate GT more than his mother's killer, so it doesn't sound impossible to me.Insertclevername wrote:I hope that isn't the real reason because that would be so dumb if it was true.
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I'm pretty sure it's that very hatred that would stop him from confusing Z with GT.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Salagir seems to hate GT more than his mother's killer, so it doesn't sound impossible to me.Insertclevername wrote:I hope that isn't the real reason because that would be so dumb if it was true.
And I didn't know Salagir worked with him on the other comic, I thought it was Gogeta's own work.
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Wait, I was wrong after all. Checking it again, Gogeta Jr. is credited for both script & art. What confused me was a YouTube video of that manga that credited Salagir & Gogeta Jr., seems it was false.Saiga wrote:And I didn't know Salagir worked with him on the other comic, I thought it was Gogeta's own work.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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It's interesting who has NOT been seen or even referenced in this manga.
Dr. Gero and the other androids.
The Red Ribbon army in general.
Most of the movie villains (understandable, though, since most of them were terrible).
Master Roshi
Western Kai, or indeed any of the Kais.
Chi-Chi
I guess there was no way to shoehorn them into a tournament plot, though you'd think Gero would be fun to play with. Maybe GT ruined him for Saligir.
Dr. Gero and the other androids.
The Red Ribbon army in general.
Most of the movie villains (understandable, though, since most of them were terrible).
Master Roshi
Western Kai, or indeed any of the Kais.
Chi-Chi
I guess there was no way to shoehorn them into a tournament plot, though you'd think Gero would be fun to play with. Maybe GT ruined him for Saligir.
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We did get the kais. The rest may just forfeited and went home.testing223 wrote:It's interesting who has NOT been seen or even referenced in this manga.
Dr. Gero and the other androids.
The Red Ribbon army in general.
Most of the movie villains (understandable, though, since most of them were terrible).
Master Roshi
Western Kai, or indeed any of the Kais.
Chi-Chi
I guess there was no way to shoehorn them into a tournament plot, though you'd think Gero would be fun to play with. Maybe GT ruined him for Saligir.
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None of the Kaioshin participated, except of Kaioshin of the South.SHINOBI-03 wrote:We did get the kais. The rest may just forfeited and went home.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I asked about a universe where Chichi was a major fighter, but that was "too out-there".testing223 wrote:It's interesting who has NOT been seen or even referenced in this manga.
Dr. Gero and the other androids.
The Red Ribbon army in general.
Most of the movie villains (understandable, though, since most of them were terrible).
Master Roshi
Western Kai, or indeed any of the Kais.
Chi-Chi
I guess there was no way to shoehorn them into a tournament plot, though you'd think Gero would be fun to play with. Maybe GT ruined him for Saligir.