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Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:58 pm

I'm not sure if this was worth posting or not on a new topic than Dragon Ball Z For Kinect, but it appears that Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock was actually dubbed in English.

In case you're not interested about Dragon Ball Z For Kinect, just read what's in bold and after.
When the game was first announced i was worried that it would be like ultimate tenkaichi (UT) or the kinect sensor would not pick up. Well i am happy to say that the game is fantastic, however if you did not like UT then you should stay away.

When i first put the game in I found it used UT soundtrack, but i love that music, so it does not effect me. Still it has been a year since the last dbz game so a new soundtrack would have been nice. All in all this game is just like UT only you use your body. The animations are the same and so is the voice acting. A lot of stuff was recycled from UT, I can not stress that enough. The Story is the same from UT and the voices too.

One the positive side, Punching,kicking, and ki blasts work great. I have not had one problem with the kinect sensor or using super attacks. Its really fun to do a kamehamha or special beam cannon. WIth over 50 characters there is good amount of re play value.

The special movie is the story of bardock after he was killed by freeza, dubbed for the first time in english. Its about 20 min long. The true fans of dbz have already seen the movie in japanese, but its nice funiation is coming together to voice dbz one last time (they can't do it forever). Its a nice addition.

Overall I highly recommend this game , even its UT with your body as the controller. Fighting game fans might not like it, but bandia games made a great game for dbz fan and I'm glade they still care unlike toei animation. Weather you played UT or not, loved it or hate it, or like kinect games. Dbz for kinect is a great way to jump back into the dbz universe. JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS UT WITH YOU AS THE CONTROLLER, BUT THIS IS NOT A BAD THING, ITS AN IMPROVEMENT!
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by VegettoEX » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:01 pm

That person is wrong. The special is not dubbed in English on the game disc in any territory in the world that Dragon Ball Z for Kinect has been released in.

They are clearly confused, did not actually watch the special themselves to check, or some combination of the two.
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by Insertclevername » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:07 pm

They probably got the impression that since the OVA was being released for the first time in NA and PAL regions, the animation must be dubbed. As EX said, just a mistake since we actually have proof that it's not.
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:36 pm

Also, I found it funny that he said it's the story of Bardock after Freeza killed him. But he didn't die, otherwise there would be no story! :lol:

But yea, I'm being nit picky. I know what he means.

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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by Bussani » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:41 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Also, I found it funny that he said it's the story of Bardock after Freeza killed him. But he didn't die
Or did he?!

I don't think I've ever seen someone put that forward as an interpretation of this special before.
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:59 pm

Sean Schemmel did say in an interview that one of the "specials" was scheduled to be dubbbed, but that ultimately it didn't happen for budgeting reasons. It's unclear based on the interview what he was referring to, but since the interview was mostly covering the video games at that point, he was probably referring to either "Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans," or "Episode of Bardock."
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by penguintruth » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:12 pm

Bussani wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Also, I found it funny that he said it's the story of Bardock after Freeza killed him. But he didn't die
Or did he?!

I don't think I've ever seen someone put that forward as an interpretation of this special before.
I'm more inclined to believe that Freeza killed Bardock and the special is just his imagination as he dies than Freeza's attack SENDS PEOPLE BACK IN TIME, which is just f***ing stupid. If that happened, why did only Bardock get sent back in time?
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by funrush » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:18 pm

Maybe he/she meant subbed. S is right next to D on the keyboard.

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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:26 pm

penguintruth wrote:
Bussani wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Also, I found it funny that he said it's the story of Bardock after Freeza killed him. But he didn't die
Or did he?!

I don't think I've ever seen someone put that forward as an interpretation of this special before.
I'm more inclined to believe that Freeza killed Bardock and the special is just his imagination as he dies than Freeza's attack SENDS PEOPLE BACK IN TIME, which is just f***ing stupid. If that happened, why did only Bardock get sent back in time?
I'll admit this theory is loose, but I was thinking that perhaps Freeza's attack interacted with Bardock's precognitive abilities somehow and sent Bardock...back in......time.....................don't look at me like that. I said it was loose!
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by Bussani » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:31 pm

I'd buy that theory, I suppose. I could also believe it was just something that had a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of happening and that Bardock was just in the right place at the right time. There are supposed to be tiny wormholes everywhere down in the quantum foam, too small to be of any use, but if you could expand one (which may not be possible in real life, but this is Dragon Ball!) travelling across time and space could be possible. It's a massive fluke, but I have no problem with that.

Another theory I've seen is that the villains from Dragon Ball Online had something to do with it.
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by Dizrythmia » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:35 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:Sean Schemmel did say in an interview that one of the "specials" was scheduled to be dubbbed, but that ultimately it didn't happen for budgeting reasons. It's unclear based on the interview what he was referring to, but since the interview was mostly covering the video games at that point, he was probably referring to either "Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans," or "Episode of Bardock."
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:11 pm

I don't see why everyone has a problem with the Episode of Bardock's story.

It's obvious that he was sent... to another dimension!
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Re: Episode of Bardock was apparently dubbed in English.

Post by samuraix123 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:17 pm

penguintruth wrote:
Bussani wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Also, I found it funny that he said it's the story of Bardock after Freeza killed him. But he didn't die
Or did he?!

I don't think I've ever seen someone put that forward as an interpretation of this special before.
I'm more inclined to believe that Freeza killed Bardock and the special is just his imagination as he dies than Freeza's attack SENDS PEOPLE BACK IN TIME, which is just f***ing stupid. If that happened, why did only Bardock get sent back in time?
I agree with penguintruth. Also if I might add, Episode of Bardock could just be a ''what if'' type of movie, because I like the idea of freeza killing bardock. I think he earned his right as a saiyan might I add even a ''Hero''? that's just my opinion though.
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Post by penguintruth » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:25 pm

No see, my problem is that the special makes Bardock too important. Bardock should just be one low-class Saiyan who could predict the end of Planet Vegeta, but could do nothing about it. He's ultimately irrelevant. He's just some guy who was killed by Freeza along with the other Saiyans. He never had a chance against Freeza. He was a nothing.

Goku came from humble beginnings, not from the first ever Super Saiyan. Freeza shouldn't even know Bardock's name.
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Post by The Tori-bot » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:14 pm

funrush wrote:Maybe he/she meant subbed. S is right next to D on the keyboard.
Considering how he goes on to talk about how it's nice to have Funimation doing the voice acting... it's scientifically improbable.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:54 pm

penguintruth wrote:No see, my problem is that the special makes Bardock too important. Bardock should just be one low-class Saiyan who could predict the end of Planet Vegeta, but could do nothing about it. He's ultimately irrelevant. He's just some guy who was killed by Freeza along with the other Saiyans. He never had a chance against Freeza. He was a nothing.

Goku came from humble beginnings, not from the first ever Super Saiyan. Freeza shouldn't even know Bardock's name.
But that's why I love "Episode of Bardock"! It was like Goku mirrored Bardock more. Bardock and Goku were both nothings, and as low-level Saiyans, not much was expected of them...and yet they both became Super Saiyans. To me, it made Goku's Super Saiyan transformation all the more fitting. They came from nothing and yet they gained incredible power. Like father like son.
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Post by penguintruth » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:28 am

No, it diminishes Goku's transformation. "Oh, no wonder Goku became a Super Saiyan, his father was one!"

Bardock is a nothing. That's why his story is so good. He stood up to Freeza and... nothing. He was swatted away. But his child would someday defeat him.

Not only did they make Bardock a Super Saiyan, but the very first, the start of the legend. He might as well fart rainbows and sweat cancer cure. When are we going to find out that Bardock is the one who defeated Bojack for the Kaios or that he once protected a litter of kittens from Majin Buu?

It's ridiculous. Time travelling Bardock is ridiculous. Bardock just happening to be on the same planet Freeza's ancenstor is on and just happens to defeat him by becoming a Super Saiyan to avenge people he just met and would otherwise have mutilated himself.

No. Sorry, but it all defaces the mythos of DB. It's like finding out that Superman's father Jor-El had once been a superhero on another planet who looked just like Superman and the reason Darkseid knows about Superman is because it was passed on through generations.

How did Bardock time travel? And if he did, does that mean the planet he ended up on was Planet Vegeta pre-Saiyans? Where are the Tsufurians? And if it isn't Planet Vegeta, where is it? And how did he end up on that particular planet? He travelled in time AND space? Does Freeza do this often to his opponents?

It's just dumb. The whole thing is dumb.
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Post by Bussani » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:46 am

penguintruth wrote:He travelled in time AND space?
In reality, that's probably more likely than travelling through time alone. But fiction doesn't always think that way, and one of the natives does tell Bardock he's on planet Plant, so...yeah.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:09 am

penguintruth wrote:No, it diminishes Goku's transformation. "Oh, no wonder Goku became a Super Saiyan, his father was one!"

etc.
Couldn't agree more. Episode of Bardock suffers from a strong case of "prequelitis." When someone makes a prequel, they have a strong temptation to make all these surprising connections or pimp the hell out of some popular character, and the whole thing comes across as contrived. It usually just gives a feeling of shrinking the universe significantly when you realize that every major action everywhere at every time involves the same people or family. For a major example, look no further than the Star Wars prequels where the mostly insignificant but surprisingly popular bounty hunter Boba Fett is given this huge connection to the entire Clone War. Or where Chewbacca and Yoda suddenly have this nonsensical connection to one another.

So, yeah, Bardock's the same way all of a sudden. It risked treading on that territory in the original special, just by having Goku's dad be the last Saiyan to stand up to Freeza before the planet was destroyed. That already threatened to give him an undue importance, but, like penguintruth says, it was deftly handled by making him a complete nobody, a failure, who accomplished nothing, and who was barely a blip on Freeza's radar. Oh, but now he's popular, so we can no longer have this wonderfully poignant ending. He has to go back in time to the very roots of the Freeza empire, the Saiyan history, all of that, and basically be the progenitor of every single key story point for that entire arc. Hell, it was bad enough when Kai set him up as a major focal point by having his story serve as the launching point for the entire series.

Bardock simply isn't that important. That's what makes him special.
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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:41 am

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funrush wrote:Maybe he/she meant subbed. S is right next to D on the keyboard.
Considering how he goes on to talk about how it's nice to have Funimation doing the voice acting... it's scientifically improbable.
He made several mistakes when it comes to reviews. However, the dubbing of the OVAs didn't work out due to monetary issues as Sean pointed out. FUNimation has three years left in their license of this franchise so they might as well dub it before it expires.
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I'm more inclined to believe that Freeza killed Bardock and the special is just his imagination as he dies than Freeza's attack SENDS PEOPLE BACK IN TIME, which is just f***ing stupid. If that happened, why did only Bardock get sent back in time?
I'll admit this theory is loose, but I was thinking that perhaps Freeza's attack interacted with Bardock's precognitive abilities somehow and sent Bardock...back in......time.....................don't look at me like that. I said it was loose!
Agreed. Time paradoxes happens when Freeza swiveled Bardock back in time rather than dying. It's like Mirai Trunks having a time machine going back and forth place to place.
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penguintruth wrote:No, it diminishes Goku's transformation. "Oh, no wonder Goku became a Super Saiyan, his father was one!"

etc.
Couldn't agree more. Episode of Bardock suffers from a strong case of "prequelitis." When someone makes a prequel, they have a strong temptation to make all these surprising connections or pimp the hell out of some popular character, and the whole thing comes across as contrived. It usually just gives a feeling of shrinking the universe significantly when you realize that every major action everywhere at every time involves the same people or family. For a major example, look no further than the Star Wars prequels where the mostly insignificant but surprisingly popular bounty hunter Boba Fett is given this huge connection to the entire Clone War. Or where Chewbacca and Yoda suddenly have this nonsensical connection to one another.

So, yeah, Bardock's the same way all of a sudden. It risked treading on that territory in the original special, just by having Goku's dad be the last Saiyan to stand up to Freeza before the planet was destroyed. That already threatened to give him an undue importance, but, like penguintruth says, it was deftly handled by making him a complete nobody, a failure, who accomplished nothing, and who was barely a blip on Freeza's radar. Oh, but now he's popular, so we can no longer have this wonderfully poignant ending. He has to go back in time to the very roots of the Freeza empire, the Saiyan history, all of that, and basically be the progenitor of every single key story point for that entire arc. Hell, it was bad enough when Kai set him up as a major focal point by having his story serve as the launching point for the entire series.

Bardock simply isn't that important. That's what makes him special.
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