DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

[dbboxkaifan]

Budokai 3's replacement music sounds kinda cool, I mean, it reminds me of Sonic.

Though, I prefer the short version from the trailer than the full.

[Cold Skin]

I wish we had some story mode cutscenes to watch, because that is where the music matters most.

However, those few samples are enough to see that they likely did a great job at replacing the original tracks with new, epic "today's-the-day-I-save-the-world" tracks giving chills and respecting the atmosphere, especially for the Budokai 1 european intro for which I always found the music to be incredibly dull... but not anymore! Now only the montage is dull (why the hell can't they give us the remake of the anime's opening even nowadays?).

The Budokai 3 has a very cool music too, which clearly conveys the feeling it's supposed to convey, but it feels weird to watch an opening without an actual song, like there's something missing... namely, a singing voice.

[Taku128]

The uploader of those videos commented on one of his videos saying that in the PAL version Budokai 1 only has Japanese voices, and Budokai 3 has both English and Japanese voices. It's likely they ported the PAL Collector's Edition of Budokai 3 that added the option for both.

The PAL Collector's Edition came out at a later date than the original, did it have the other features that the Japanese version added and were also included in the North American Greatest Hits release? It's looking like the American version won't have Japanese voices in Budokai 1 or the additions to the Greatest Hits release, so the PAL version might be the one to get.

[GogetaSSJ2]

The uploader of those videos commented on one of his videos saying that in the PAL version Budokai 1 only has Japanese voices, and Budokai 3 has both English and Japanese voices. It's likely they ported the PAL Collector's Edition of Budokai 3 that added the option for both.

The PAL Collector's Edition came out at a later date than the original, did it have the other features that the Japanese version added and were also included in the North American Greatest Hits release? It's looking like the American version won't have Japanese voices in Budokai 1 or the additions to the Greatest Hits release, so the PAL version might be the one to get.

But in certain US retail stores such as Gamestop the description for the HD collection says it would include the japanese voices in Budokai 3.

Dragon Ball Z® Budokai 1 and Dragon Ball Z® Budokai 3 make their triumphant debut on next-generation consoles in Dragon Ball Z® Budokai HD Collection. Remastered in high-defi nition with full trophy/achievement support, fans can relive these two great games or experience them for the fi rst time in one special collection.

BUDOKAI 1 FEATURES:
Face off with up to 23 mighty DBZ warriors!
60 moves per character including Kamehameha
Fierce fi ghting modes including Story, Duel & World Match
Follow the DBZ animated series from Sayan Saga to Android Saga!
Includes the authentic English voiceover cast

BUDOKAI 3 FEATURES:
Over 40 characters from Dragon Ball, DBZ & Dragon Ball GT
Customize your DBZ warrior & build the ultimate fi ghter
Saiyan Overdrive Fighting System brings the speed, cinematic attacks & combos, airborne acrobatics & intensity of the DBZ anime
Share character profi le passwords online for other players to use
Includes the authentic English & Japanese voiceover cast

The original US version of Budokai 3 didn't have the authentic Japanese voice cast. So if the description is true, the US HD collection might be having the greatest hits additions since Japanese voices were only in the greatest hits version of Budokai 3. At least I hope I'm right.

[GogetaSSJ2]

If you're asking if the PAL collector's edition of Budokai 3 had the same features of the US greatest hits Budokai 3 version, then your answer is yes. They both had English and Japanese voices, plus the 4 extra costumes (Goku w/ Halo, King Piccolo costume, Trunks w/ armor, and Vegeta w/ Scouter).

[dbboxkaifan]

However, those few samples are enough to see that they likely did a great job at replacing the original tracks with new, epic "today's-the-day-I-save-the-world" tracks giving chills and respecting the atmosphere, especially for the Budokai 1 european intro for which I always found the music to be incredibly dull... but not anymore! Now only the montage is dull (why the hell can't they give us the remake of the anime's opening even nowadays?).

The music was incredibly dull? I disagree.

Budokai 1's replacement OP track imo, it was a terrible music placement, if they wanted to use Tag Vs music, a more fitting would have definitely be Dragon Claw, Burst Open or Super Strength. Ultimately I'd have chosen Dragon Claw for B1's OP, if I had the choice to.

Enigmatic Soul was a horribly awful choice they made, but well, the mistake's done and it can't be taken back.. Unless they released a Title Update to fix it somehow.

Sounds like Budokai 1 HD was the unlucky one to get crapped on. Budokai 3 HD, could be the decent one.

Dragon Ball Z® Budokai 1 and Dragon Ball Z® Budokai 3 make their triumphant debut on next-generation consoles in Dragon Ball Z® Budokai HD Collection. Remastered in high-definition with full trophy/achievement support, fans can relive these two great games or experience them for the fi rst time in one special collection.

BUDOKAI 1 FEATURES:
Face off with up to 23 mighty DBZ warriors!
60 moves per character including Kamehameha
Fierce fighting modes including Story, Duel & World Match
Follow the DBZ animated series from Saiyan Saga to Android Saga!
Includes the authentic English voiceover cast

BUDOKAI 3 FEATURES:
Over 40 characters from Dragon Ball, DBZ & Dragon Ball GT
Customize your DBZ warrior & build the ultimate fighter
Saiyan Overdrive Fighting System brings the speed, cinematic attacks & combos, airborne acrobatics & intensity of the DBZ anime
Share character profile passwords online for other players to use
Includes the authentic English & Japanese voiceover cast

The original US version of Budokai 3 didn't have the authentic Japanese voice cast. So if the description is true, the US HD collection might be having the greatest hits additions since Japanese voices were only in the greatest hits version of Budokai 3. At least I hope I'm right.

This info can be found here, though not from a good US retail game store: http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/ ... ion/104395

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[Saiga]

Does anyone know what version Australia got?

[dbboxkaifan]

Does anyone know what version Australia got?

Australia is possibly getting the PAL version too It's in the PAL territory.

[GogetaSSJ2]

Another US retail I found the same description is here:

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Budok ... collection

On Amazon.com it says the US version does have japanese voice cast for Budokai 3.

Also, there is this US retail as well:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6874156040

So these retail websites claim they are selling the US version w/ japanese voices in Budokai 3. Newegg is a very reliable retail, I've had a good experience with them myself.

[theoriginalbilis]

Found a playthrough of the PAL version of the HD Collection (I guess folks in Europe are getting early/review copies,) and it does indeed confirm that the original music has been replaced by compositions from BT2, BT3, and even Raging Blast 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdte1QSrhFI

[Rad Raddish]

I have some interesting/vague notes about the music situation with these games. It looks like these ports still use the exact same files as the PS2 versions did for the music, so if you've modded your 360/PS3 you can actually swap out the included AFS music archives with the originals.

I've only tried this with Budokai 1, but I'm pretty sure it'll work just as well with Budokai 3.

[kei17]

Found a playthrough of the PAL version of the HD Collection (I guess folks in Europe are getting early/review copies,) and it does indeed confirm that the original music has been replaced by compositions from BT2, BT3, and even Raging Blast 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdte1QSrhFI

Wow, the title card music is kept intact. We've still got at least one composition of Yamamoto.

I have some interesting/vague notes about the music situation with these games. It looks like these ports still use the exact same files as the PS2 versions did for the music, so if you've modded your 360/PS3 you can actually swap out the included AFS music archives with the originals.

Interesting. Does that mean that the streaming files sound just as bad as the PS2 version?

[Cold Skin]

However, those few samples are enough to see that they likely did a great job at replacing the original tracks with new, epic "today's-the-day-I-save-the-world" tracks giving chills and respecting the atmosphere, especially for the Budokai 1 european intro for which I always found the music to be incredibly dull... but not anymore! Now only the montage is dull (why the hell can't they give us the remake of the anime's opening even nowadays?).

The music was incredibly dull? I disagree.

Budokai 1's replacement OP track imo, it was a terrible music placement, if they wanted to use Tag Vs music, a more fitting would have definitely be Dragon Claw, Burst Open or Super Strength. Ultimately I'd have chosen Dragon Claw for B1's OP, if I had the choice to.

Enigmatic Soul was a horribly awful choice they made, but well, the mistake's done and it can't be taken back.. Unless they released a Title Update to fix it somehow.

Sounds like Budokai 1 HD was the unlucky one to get crapped on. Budokai 3 HD, could be the decent one.

The problem with that Budokai 1 intro track that I've always hated (whereas other tracks like Challengers were simply perfection), is that there was no emotion set to it, no epic feel. It sounded just like a big rock guitar demonstration that you would put when a motorcycle gang arrives in town ready to be trouble for everyone who dares looking at them. Kind of "let me show you how we are bad boys who spend their time kickin' ass". And Dragon Ball characters are not just fighting bad boys, they're heroes. For a montage showing various heroic moments, I think a "heroic" music is better. Same goes with those other tracks you mention, except maybe for Burst Open, which is still way too sound-violent, BUT does have that heroic side to it that would make it okay for this montage, if I took my remote control to temporarily lower the sound of my TV I guess.

Those tracks actually make me think of that awful US replacement score for the Broly movie, where big metal songs were playing in some scenes, although Broly was probably the only character for whom such mindless "let's-make-your-brain-blow-up" tracks were appropriate because the character himself is about mindless violence.

Enigmatic Soul is basically the heroic track that could be played in every final battle, let's hope they used it for Super Saiyan Goku, or a track that's just that good or better (there's a lot of great tracks available with all those games). I'm really gonna miss Challengers though, which was a perfect Dragon Ball track.

[dbboxkaifan]

Found a playthrough of the PAL version of the HD Collection (I guess folks in Europe are getting early/review copies,) and it does indeed confirm that the original music has been replaced by compositions from BT2, BT3, and even Raging Blast 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdte1QSrhFI

This is cool, music from BT2 / BT3 / RB1 / TTT should be enough to have plenty of variety.

My only concern was that the song they chose for B1's OP wasn't the too suitable, but oh well.

CloudSkin @ I concur, that's a great observation.

[Rukura]

Wait...So it has music from Budokai Tenkaichi 2, 3, Raging Blast, Tag Vs and Ultimate Tenkaichi? Am I the only one that finds that kind of a mess?

[dbboxkaifan]

So as I expected, this includes the censored cutscenes.

Censored


Uncut


I guess a black hole is better than dirt (*cough* Kai *cough*).

[Xeogran]

I have some interesting/vague notes about the music situation with these games. It looks like these ports still use the exact same files as the PS2 versions did for the music, so if you've modded your 360/PS3 you can actually swap out the included AFS music archives with the originals.

I've only tried this with Budokai 1, but I'm pretty sure it'll work just as well with Budokai 3.

So, do you think that replacing character models and editing textures will be as easy to do in the HD Verisons as in the normal PS2 versions of these games?

[Rad Raddish]

I have some interesting/vague notes about the music situation with these games. It looks like these ports still use the exact same files as the PS2 versions did for the music, so if you've modded your 360/PS3 you can actually swap out the included AFS music archives with the originals.

I've only tried this with Budokai 1, but I'm pretty sure it'll work just as well with Budokai 3.

So, do you think that replacing character models and editing textures will be as easy to do in the HD Verisons as in the normal PS2 versions of these games?

Yup, looks that way at least, they use similar AFS archives for the graphics assets.

Interesting. Does that mean that the streaming files sound just as bad as the PS2 version?

I'm not sure, but the file sizes are similar so there shouldn't be any quality loss/gained because of the files themselves. Most of the files (except for the replaced music, of course) even have 2002 "modified by" dates.

[Pokewhiz7]

So as I expected, this includes the censored cutscenes.

Censored


Uncut


I guess a black hole is better than dirt (*cough* Kai *cough*).

Sorry, I don't follow this much, but the American release isn't out yet, is it? That could still be uncensored.
EDIT: I'm watching that video right now. This seems so...weird with the new music. The graphics do look damn good though.

[dbboxkaifan]

The original NTSC-US release had uncut cutscenes, and Budokai 1 HD is only English dub as it appears, so perhaps they're keeping the same settings for Budokai HD Collection

Original PS2 Budokai 1:
PAL - Censored
NTSC/US - Uncensored