Dragonball (Not Z) "Uncut" ?

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Post by SSJ5 Piccohan » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:51 pm

Does that mean that all of the Dragonball Z movies will become UUE eventually?

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:55 pm

Chaos Saiyajin wrote:Dragonball's DVDs are all uncut. Check the back of the boxes. :P
Chaos, you're a smart guy, please don't make me slap ya' with a trout. You should know that FUNi's North American release of the "Saga of Goku" release, containing episodes 1 - 13 with DB movie 1, is edit-version only. Even the Australian release leaves movie 1 edit-version only. Not all of original DragonBall has been released uncut. We still have those innocent first 13 episodes and first ever DB movie, they still haven't gotten the honor of having an uncut release. :cry:
SSJ5 Piccohan wrote:Does that mean that all of the Dragonball Z movies will become UUE eventually?
No, there's no point for that, just the ones dubbed by the Ocean group.
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Post by Dayspring » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:25 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote: Chaos, you're a smart guy, please don't make me slap ya' with a trout. You should know that FUNi's North American release of the "Saga of Goku" release, containing episodes 1 - 13 with DB movie 1, is edit-version only.
Er, I thought that was Kidmark/Trimark/whoever/not Funi who owned the rights to those episodes, which was Funi never released them on DVD.
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Post by Conan the SSJ » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:44 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote: Chaos, you're a smart guy, please don't make me slap ya' with a trout. You should know that FUNi's North American release of the "Saga of Goku" release, containing episodes 1 - 13 with DB movie 1, is edit-version only.
Er, I thought that was Kidmark/Trimark/whoever/not Funi who owned the rights to those episodes, which was Funi never released them on DVD.
Kidmark/Trimark/Lion's Gate Films/Whatever were only the distributors and company that found the syndication time slots for FUNi for those 13 episodes. FUNi themselves purchased/licensed the masters from Toei, wrote the scripts (with help from Ian Corlett), were in charge of the replaced music, edited the episodes and feature, and paid the Ocean group to voice those episodes and the first movie. Right now, this whole licensing issue with Kidmark is so damn confusing, I don't see why FUNi has to wait to release a set here in North America. Who's gonna sue them, I don't think anyone besides FUNi really cares about the issue. FUNi is in so much money right now, and have Navarre behind their rears, I don't see why they're so concerned with this. If Whoever tries suing them for releasing the episodes and movie in the US, they should just counter sue since the license issue is already possibly expired (like the Saiyan/Namek sagas and first 3 DBZ movies are with Pioneer), FUNi would probably win it in the end.
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Post by Blitzen » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:36 pm

Actually Navarre is in the red :).

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:37 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:Kidmark/Trimark/Lion's Gate Films/Whatever were only the distributors and company that found the syndication time slots for FUNi for those 13 episodes.
You can just stop right there, because you're entirely incorrect.

Lion's Gate Films owns the sub-license to release DB TV episodes 1-13 (and DB movie 1) on home video / DVD. FUNimation does not. This is why FUNimation can't release their re-dubbed versions.

Why does Lion's Gate still own the rights? Why hasn't it expired? DID it expire, and they somehow RE-purchased the sub-license out from under FUNimation's nose?

No-one knows for sure.
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Post by Conan the SSJ » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:13 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote:Kidmark/Trimark/Lion's Gate Films/Whatever were only the distributors and company that found the syndication time slots for FUNi for those 13 episodes.
You can just stop right there, because you're entirely incorrect.

Lion's Gate Films owns the sub-license to release DB TV episodes 1-13 (and DB movie 1) on home video / DVD. FUNimation does not. This is why FUNimation can't release their re-dubbed versions.
Sorry how I worded my post, I thought all I was saying was correct, you don't have to sound so pissed about it. I honestly thought Lion's Gate Films was merely distributing and finding the time-slot for the series, isn't that what they did for original DB? I thought it was, my fault for being wrong. :?
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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:32 pm

I'm not being pissy, I'm just putting out the information :).
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Post by Chaos Saiyajin » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:58 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:
Chaos Saiyajin wrote:Dragonball's DVDs are all uncut. Check the back of the boxes. :P
Chaos, you're a smart guy, please don't make me slap ya' with a trout. You should know that FUNi's North American release of the "Saga of Goku" release, containing episodes 1 - 13 with DB movie 1, is edit-version only. Even the Australian release leaves movie 1 edit-version only. Not all of original DragonBall has been released uncut. We still have those innocent first 13 episodes and first ever DB movie, they still haven't gotten the honor of having an uncut release. :cry:
SSJ5 Piccohan wrote:Does that mean that all of the Dragonball Z movies will become UUE eventually?
No, there's no point for that, just the ones dubbed by the Ocean group.
:x Shit! Thanks for pointing that out, Conan. :oops: I feel stupider than the line about Ten's arm growing back...
I really, really need to get back into the habit of posting.

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Post by ShadowAssailantX » Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:25 am

VegettoEX wrote: Umm... what?

Yes, it will happen. You're right that "uncut" versions with FUNimation's cast have aired on TV (as originally done in 2001)... *but this hasn't gotten a home release yet*, just as you say so, yourself. Of course they're going to put it out when they have the legal opportunity to. This includes both DB movie 1 & TV eps 1-13.

They wouldn't have paid Clyde to do the translations for the JP language track for subtitles on the disc had they no intention of releasing it (excluding Australia's release ^_~).
What I was saying was that Dragonball wouldn't recieve a "UU" release AFTER the 2nd release of the first saga. Even though it would be nice to get the 2nd Opening Animation... :|

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