Who is the biggest failure in the series: Yamcha or Chaozu?

[sonikku956]

I'd say Chaozu. Unlike Yamcha, he has never won a single important fight.

[Saiga]

Yeah, definitely Chiaotzu. The only reason his suckiness isn't more well known that Yamcha's is because Tenshinhan did his best to keep Chiaotzu out of the spotlight so he wouldn't embarrass himself more.

The true power of his third eye is to see through the fourth wall.

[Kingdom Heartless]

Chaozu. Yamucha may have been knocked out in his first fight in each Tenkaichi Budokai, but at least he always qualified.

[Herms]

Fun fact: Chaozu is never shown winning a single fight in the manga (he had to have won in the preliminaries at the 22nd TB, but we don't see those fights). Meanwhile Yamcha manages to kinda-sorta if-you-squint-a-little beat Goku twice, when they first meet and then with Oozaru Goku.

[dprez]

Poor Chiaotzu. He was pretty awesome vs. Kuririn at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, making fun of his bald head and punkin' him with telekinesis. He was a cool little dude then, even vs. the saiyans he had a glorious moment of bravery.

It's close, but little Chiaotzu just doesn't get enough chances to shine. He really is just to weak...

[Gyt Kaliba]

I'd have to say Chaozu as well. The poor little guy never gets to do anything cool really, unless you count the suicide attack on Nappa. Even Yamucha got some moments to shine early on, and it's really only when you step back and look at all of his failures that you realize how badly misused Yamucha was. Chaozu, you see it even while fully engrossed in the story.

[dbboxkaifan]

What about Yajirobe? All he did was eat and rarely ever helped saving the world (except that time he cut Oozaru Vejita's tail).

[Gyt Kaliba]

What about Yajirobe? All he did was eat and rarely ever helped saving the world (except that time he cut Oozaru Vejita's tail).

That single event is more than either Yamucha or Chaozu ever got to do really though, isn't it?

At the same time though...I dunno. I don't look at Yajirobe and expect anything grand out of him. He's always struck me as more of a humorous character, even if he was equal-ish to Goku at one point in time. Yamucha and Chaozu though are both treated as main members of the team early on, and...well...we know how it turned out for both of them.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Chaozu was so pathetic that he wasn't even worthy to speak with the main character, or his son, the other main character. Poor little guy.

[DBZAOTA482]

Chaozu

It's all Ten-san this and Ten-san that. Hell, even Vegeta shows more gratitude towards the main protagonists and he hates almost everyone. At least Yamcha showed up to the Cell Games. I didn't see Chaozu there, ungrateful bitch.

[samuraix123]

I'm going to say neither. as far as I'm concerned they're all heroes just like the others. certain characters try to help out as much as they can. Just look at Vegeta for instance, he has the most awesome lines of any character in the series in my opinion, and he gets his butt handed to him a-lot! and he's the prince of all Saiyans! sure, Chaozu is weak. but he did what he could against Nappa and that's all that matters. just my two cents

[penguintruth]

Yamucha.

Sure, Chaozu did less, but for some reason, he comes off looking less like a loser and just as a sidekick who's not really supposed to be that great to begin with. Yamucha talks big and thinks he's great for so long, but is constantly getting nerfed by enemies nobody even gives a second thought to. Then his girlfriend sleeps with the guy who indirectly murdered him and he's doomed to be FOREVER ALONE because nobody wants that loser.

Chaozu, on the other hand, at least made it to fight Nappa, and people were actually willing to stay on Kaio's planet and wait until he could be wished back if need be. Nobody would do that for Yamucha, because he's a loser, and nobody really likes him. Chaozu is a cute little doll thing and probably Tenshinhan's sex puppet, which is of more use than Yamucha is.

Just look at Yamucha's life. He went from being this cocky bandit to being a totally unmitigated failure in the space of a couple of chapters. And he never got better. At least Chaozu gave Kuririn some trouble the first time they fought. Yamucha is just shameful. His entire personality is being a loser.

The only thing Yamucha has going for him is Tohru Furuya.

[coola]

Chaozu

It's all Ten-san this and Ten-san that. Hell, even Vegeta shows more gratitude towards the main protagonists and he hates almost everyone. At least Yamcha showed up to the Cell Games. I didn't see Chaozu there, ungrateful bitch.

Yes, Yamucha and Tenshinan showed up, and it almost cause Gohan to lost a fight, becasue they had to use sensu beans for them, i dotn really understand, what for they also go? They knew they didn`t stand a chance, and just get in way

[Rocketman]

Chaozu, on the other hand, at least made it to fight Nappa, and people were actually willing to stay on Kaio's planet and wait until he could be wished back if need be.

No, Tien was. Literally nobody else gives a shit about Chaozu.

[DBZAOTA482]

Chaozu

It's all Ten-san this and Ten-san that. Hell, even Vegeta shows more gratitude towards the main protagonists and he hates almost everyone. At least Yamcha showed up to the Cell Games. I didn't see Chaozu there, ungrateful bitch.

Yes, Yamucha and Tenshinan showed up, and it almost cause Gohan to lost a fight, becasue they had to use sensu beans for them, i dotn really understand, what for they also go? They knew they didn`t stand a chance, and just get in way

Moral support.

[Piccolo Daimao]

They're about equal in terms of failure. Chaozu isn't even talked about when Gokuu and co. talk about finding "Yamcha and Tenshinhan" to search for the Dragon Balls and train at Kami's, and literally left behind once the Cell arc rolls around. Yamcha is touted as one of the actual main fighters, yet he never actually wins a single fight fair-and-square (even with Suke-san, he needed Roushi to orgasm blood over him before he could see his opponent and beat him. And his first fight with Gokuu was interrupted by Blooma waking up and Yamcha running away due to his gynophobia).

[mattymoron]

I don't consider either of them failures, seeing as they're some of the most powerful beings in the universe.

[B]

Chaozu is one of the best martial artists in the series, dies once or twice, and spends his days bettering himself and his technique with his best friend. Could most likely kill most men without thinking. Yamcha is exactly the same, except he retired, because he's the xth strongest guy in existence.

If not being able to bust the planet open is the measure of failures, than Oolong is the biggest failure in the series. Just mooches off Capsule Corp. and he can't even transform at the same level Puar can.

[Jord]

What about Yajirobe? All he did was eat and rarely ever helped saving the world (except that time he cut Oozaru Vejita's tail).

That single event is more than either Yamucha or Chaozu ever got to do really though, isn't it?

At the same time though...I dunno. I don't look at Yajirobe and expect anything grand out of him. He's always struck me as more of a humorous character, even if he was equal-ish to Goku at one point in time. Yamucha and Chaozu though are both treated as main members of the team early on, and...well...we know how it turned out for both of them.

Don't forget he made short work of one of Daimao's demon henchmen.

[Saiga]

I don't consider either of them failures, seeing as they're some of the most powerful beings in the universe.

I'm one of the most powerful beings in the universe if you lower the standards enough.