Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
Saiga wrote:
Toriyama being involved doesn't change the fact that Toei are making the movie. And Toriyama being involved doesn't instantly make SS1 Gohan make sense - it still conflicts with what we saw in the series.
Well, I guess you're just gonna be feeling salty all the way home about SSJ Gohan then.
Surely, I could careless about the whole "He's Mistykk so he can't go SSJ!!!!!!"-nonsense. Dragon Ball contradicts itself every arc.
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Well, here's a little bigger pic. Not by much but I guess it helps a little...
Also... Look who I spotted!
Wow, that zoom in dosen't really help. Gah!
It helps some; I'm almost certain that's Videl now.
Whoa super-tiny Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai. O_O
If Rabbit-guy did that to them, I hope that's just a taste of what he could inflict on everybody else. Even though as of right now I don't really care for Rabbit-guy's design, I'm still hoping that in terms of powers we're still in for treats (if this is indeed official).
Saiga wrote:
Toriyama being involved doesn't change the fact that Toei are making the movie. And Toriyama being involved doesn't instantly make SS1 Gohan make sense - it still conflicts with what we saw in the series.
Well, I guess you're just gonna be feeling salty all the way home about SSJ Gohan then.
Surely, I could careless about the whole "He's Mistykk so he can't go SSJ!!!!!!"-nonsense. Dragon Ball contradicts itself every arc.
Just because I like consistency is no reason to start being rude.
And the manga doesn't contradict itself ever arc, so that's a baseless claim especially if you're just going to throw it out there without elaboration.
I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
Yeah, I initially thought the girl on the left was Pan, but I guess it would make sense that it's her mom sporting a new 'do instead. Going off the whole mini Pilaf and co being shrunken by the new baddie, it seems like a throwback of sorts to Boss Rabbit back in DB... except he shrinks people instead of turning them to carrots.
Also, any clues as to who the person floating in the back could be? Kinda looks like it's got antennae a la Majin Boo, but kinda... thicker :/.
Really looking forward to this movie, even with the inconsistencies with SSJ Gohan being around. I mean, at least it's not as blatant a money grab as the Bardock sequel was.
Saiga wrote:
And the manga doesn't contradict itself ever arc, so that's a baseless claim especially if you're just going to throw it out there without elaboration.
Freeza, space overlord said to be the strongest terror in the universe
Has a daddy even stronger that King Kai, lord of everything, knew nothing about
Majin Boo gets his fat self taken out of his Super version
Saiga wrote:
And the manga doesn't contradict itself ever arc, so that's a baseless claim especially if you're just going to throw it out there without elaboration.
Freeza, space overlord said to be the strongest terror in the universe
Has a daddy even stronger that King Kai, lord of everything, knew nothing about
Majin Boo gets his fat self taken out of his Super version
Turns into Kid Boo rather than the grey Boo
That last isn't a contradiction, as that removed all of the Kaioshins from Boo, man.
I think we need to wait until this image is proven official. It's not even on the website.
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Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
NeoKING wrote:
Freeza, space overlord said to be the strongest terror in the universe
Has a daddy even stronger that King Kai, lord of everything, knew nothing about
Majin Boo gets his fat self taken out of his Super version
Turns into Kid Boo rather than the grey Boo
Nope, King Cold is never said to be stronger. In the manga it's implied by him that he's weaker, and the guidebooks confirm this.
Grey Boo and Pure Boo are different entities. Grey Boo was a new entity that was formed by Fat Boo's evil. Pure Boo was the original and was formed when the influence of the Kaioshin was removed completely.
@VegettoEX Isn't the twitter account an official source?
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I'm re-watching Dragon Ball GT in full on my blog. Check it out if you're interested in my thoughts on the series as I watch through it!
Saiga wrote:@VegettoEX Isn't the twitter account an official source?
They said nothing about where the image is from. Near as I can tell, it was swiped from a 2ch thread... which also doesn't say where the image is from.
(It's not from Crunchyroll; they just took it from manganewsjapon, as seen by the source on their article.)
Yes, that account has posted legit news in the past, but if I can't say what the image actually is and where it originates, I'm hesitant to post it as legitimate news.
:: [| Mike "VegettoEX" LaBrie |] ::
:: [| Kanzenshuu - Co-Founder/Administrator, Podcast Host, News Manager (note: our "job" titles are arbitrary and meaningless) |] ::
:: [| Website: January 1998 |] :: [| Podcast: November 2005 |] :: [| Fusion: April 2012 |] :: [| Wiki: 20XX |] ::
While Manga News Japon is not an official source, it certainly is a reliable source. I first got the information about the special Bardock/Hatchiyaku DVD on Saikyou Jump there, then I posted it here. It was the same when Dragon Ball SD became monthly.
I hate these "punch 69" poses that official artists seem so fond of these days. It doesn't look like Goku is fighting it looks like he's about to very angrily dance with that rabbit.