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Post by gohan2k » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:34 am

Gotham22 wrote:I could see 6 films total

1. Red Ribbon Army arc
2. Piccolo Daimao arc
3. Picolo Jr. arc

4. Saiyan/Freeza arcs
5. Androids/Cell arcs
6. Buu arc
If they were going to do six films it's highly unlikely and definitely not recommended that they do two Piccolo films (it doesn't seem likely they'd have him as a villain for two films) or try and attempt to cram the Saiyan and Freeza arcs into one (there's far too much story that so much would be lost).

I'd be interested in hearing as to why you would choose to do this though??
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Post by Saiga » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:44 am

I'd like to see the Saiyan Arc done. Nothing after that, since I feel each arc after that would get harder and harder to adapt in a live-action film. Maybe stuff could be done before it, like:

1. Goku's childhood (Red Ribbon/Tournament or Tournament/Daimao)
2. Piccolo Junior Arc.
3. Saiyan Arc.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:04 pm

I don't think it could be done without looking silly.
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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:13 pm

I bet the entire Piccolo Diamao arc can be done in one film, they'd just have to downplay the 22nd TB.
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Post by Eddie » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:17 pm

Insertclevername wrote:I bet the entire Piccolo Diamao arc can be done in one film, they'd just have to downplay the 22nd TB.
Based strictly on the manga, you could probably cover the 22nd TB, Piccolo Daimao, and 23rd TB arcs all in one three act movie. It would just require a lengthy running time with a long second act.

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Post by CaBrPi » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:26 pm

Personally, I feel like Evolution had the right idea in several places, though severely lacked in execution.

The way I'd see it is this:

Movie #1 (Evolution): Basically, it'd combine elements of the Pilaf arc and the Daimao arc, with Kuririn basically filling in for Oolong (except not a sexual predator). You'd meet Goku and Bulma first, then Pilaf and his minions, then Master Roshi and Kuririn, then Yamcha, then Chi-Chi and Gyumao (stylized as Gyumao the Ox-King), and then Piccolo and his minions, who will have been unleashed by Pilaf in his frustration. After Goku is seemingly killed, we meet Yajirobe, who takes him to see Karin, and we get the blahblahblah water; meanwhile, Kuririn and Master Roshi are both killed by Piccolo. The movie would end after Goku defeats Piccolo, and uses the Dragon Balls to bring all of Piccolo's victims back to life. We see, however, Piccolo has not been killed, much like in the actual movie.

Movie #2 (Revolution?): Here we get a more straight-up adaptation of the Saiyan arc. We're first informed of Goku's training with Kami, and Kami's link to both Piccolo and the Dragon Balls in an opening montage. In the first thirty minutes or so, we'd go through the Raditz fight, reintroducing all the characters and revealing Goku's Saiyan heritage as well as Gohan. Goku goes to train with King Kai, Piccolo takes and trains Gohan, etc. When Vegeta and Nappa arrive, they skip over the Saibaimen scene, and go straight to the fighting (mostly since Tenshinhan and Chaozu don't exist). The rest of the movie is mostly the same, though we do get a bigger focus on the characters themselves during their training, especially Gohan (sorta like the mid-Saiyan arc filler from the anime).

Movie #3 (Resolution?): Not quite as straight-up as Movie #2, but much less Frankensteined than the first, we have our Namek movie. With Piccolo (and therefore Kami) dead, the Dragon Balls cannot be used to revive any of the Saiyans' victims. So Kuririn comes up with the idea to go to Namek as usual, they find and use Kami's old spaceship, etc. Basically the same, but minus the Ginyu Force, as I feel they'd throw off the movie's pacing. Instead, we have Goku arrive in his spaceship later than what we're used to, arriving during the Freeza fight (when he's healed in the regular series). So we have no need of the Dragon Balls returning to Freeza's ship, and, instead, Freeza retrieves a new scouter from the ship, and then flies off to see if he can find Zarbon or Vegeta (which leads him to the Grand Elder's place). King Kai's wish would be changed to resurrecting all of the Namekians that Freeza's men killed, leaving Vegeta dead, and the movie would end with Goku still in space and everything else having returned to normal.

Nice little wrap-up, I think. It's probably actually terrible, lol. And yes, the titles are all jokes.

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Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:47 am

^I honestly just stopped reading your post after the first sentence.

Story is the key. Otherwise you have a multi-million dollar movie like Transformers that has fancy explosions and unrealistically hot chicks, but little to no story.
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Post by Captain-Sora » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:46 pm

Instead of outright adapting the plot of the manga, I was thinking of a more radical idea. I understand that seeing how film makers adapt characters, plots, and so forth is half of the fun in movie adaptations, but I'd like to see a live-action film only just use the concept of the dragon balls themselves and tell an original story revolving around completely new characters.

The story and cast of the original Dragon Ball is so inherently comical that it'd be way too outlandish and alienating if it were adapted accurately in live-action. However, changing various aspects of the story and its characters to make the film more grounded and less campy can agitate the fans of the source material too. As we all know, DBE was a good example of that. It tried to make compromises by attempting to recapture some of the elements of the original series, yet somehow also be serious and "realistic" at the same time and it wound up being a disaster(the fact that it was badly written, poorly acted, and had rushed pacing didn't help either).

Having an entirely new story opens up to a lot more potential. Without as many restraints and obligations to be faithful to a source material, the film would be free to expand its wings and go in any direction so long as the dragon balls and certain aspects of the world(such as the highly advanced technology) are retained. There wouldn't be any fear or disappointment over characters not being portrayed correctly as they're not based on anyone.

I'd certainly be interested in watching something like an Indiana Jones-esque film revolving around a new badass gathering the dragon balls before they fall into the clutches of an evil king/warlord/scientist/government/asshole.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:51 pm

I would end the movie trilogy after Freeza. I'm not sure how the general audience would take the Cell and Buu arc seriously or not? The general public would view the whole Cell arc as a rip off of Terminator and the time travel part of the story would be very confusing.
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Post by Daimakku » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:03 am

I wouldn't and don't want them to do live action movies, period.

Dragonball is one of those franchises that don't translate well into live-action. It's supposed to be animated because the things that happen in it are simply too ridiculous and far-fetched to be done in live action.

Some parts of the original DB might be done, but DBZ.. forget it.

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Post by Kantico » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:38 am

- Divide en several movies/arcs (Amalgamate some?).

- Respect characteristics of characters (daaah).

- Respect habilites of characters in arc as posible (Shunkanido at first's Pilaf arc? No way!).

- FUCKING KRILIN BITCHES!

- Removal of root all characters that do not provides at the plot and stop having importance in the next story arc (Puar, Lunch, etc).

- Spectacular action like Matrix... Also with speed and exaggerations typical of DBZ...

- Adapt the most cannonical events as possible (No tsufurs, no hell's onis, no villains in hell, no Gregory, etc).

- FANSERVICE.

- TITS, ASSES, etc... Roshi is a pervert!!!!!!!!!

- Violence, blood!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Eddie » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:06 am

Kantico wrote:- Divide en several movies/arcs (Amalgamate some?).

- Respect characteristics of characters (daaah).

- Respect habilites of characters in arc as posible (Shunkanido at first's Pilaf arc? No way!).

- FUCKING KRILIN BITCHES!

- Removal of root all characters that do not provides at the plot and stop having importance in the next story arc (Puar, Lunch, etc).

- Spectacular action like Matrix... Also with speed and exaggerations typical of DBZ...

- Adapt the most cannonical events as possible (No tsufurs, no hell's onis, no villains in hell, no Gregory, etc).

- FANSERVICE.

- TITS, ASSES, etc... Roshi is a pervert!!!!!!!!!

- Violence, blood!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know who these krilin bitches are, but why you expect anyone to have sexual relations with them is beyond me.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:49 pm

I can't see any movie goer taking Majin Buu seriously. He's pink and most people would be turn off by him. I think having the live action movies end at Freeza or Cell would be the best choice.
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Post by gohan2k » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:17 pm

That's presuming they actually kept his pink colour, which isn't a guarantee should they make the movie.

I personally have always thought that the pink was a great illusion with Majin Buu, you're not supposed to take him seriously until he shows you why you should.

It'd be the same for live action no-one would take him serious as villain until they saw how dangerous he was.

If you think about it there are many villains that don't actually look physically scary until they do something terrifying (the various clown villains spring to mind eg The Joker)
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Post by Saiga » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:22 pm

Freeza's first form would be just as hard to take seriously.
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Post by Cipher » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:32 pm

Hey, wow, we've had some pretty good ideas in this thread. I have some ideas for the perfect Dragon Ball movie too! Please oh please let me know what you think, kay?

Dragon Ball: The Movie Z
It is the year 2525. War has swept the planet, turning once-great civilizations into rubble. The people are frightened. America stands on the brink of destruction, the current administration maintaining infrastructure from a series of underground tunnels beneath the White House.

These are the circumstances Goku Jones was raised under. This is his world. And when Chinese emperor Chun-Lin proposes to grant one wish to the victor of his tournament and share his country's water supply with theirs, Goku's got to make the journey across the sea with the help of his friends. Armed with technology supplied by governor Kami and the bio-experiment Oolong, Goku has just ten days to get to the tournament grounds, seduce his childhood friend, Bulma, and disarm the seven Dragon Ball algorithms and stop the deadly warhead Chun-Lin plans to unleash during the distraction, codename: Kamehameha.

Time to hold onto your Dragon Balls. There's only one wish to be had, and this summer, it's going to be Goku's. Now the boy becomes a man. He's going to make it his rules ... or die trying.
Pretty good, huh? For tone, you can think of it as something like a cross between Transformers and Eraserhead, but more realistic.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:36 pm

Saiga wrote:Freeza's first form would be just as hard to take seriously.
He is a alien tyrant, I could see people taking Freeza as a serious villain. Not sure about Buu since he is a goofy character and they would have to changed him if they want to make him feel serious.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:55 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Saiga wrote:Freeza's first form would be just as hard to take seriously.
He is a alien tyrant, I could see people taking Freeza as a serious villain. Not sure about Buu since he is a goofy character and they would have to changed him if they want to make him feel serious.
It doesn't matter that he's an alien tyrant, his design is still ridiculous. I have a hard enough time taking him seriously in the manga, let alone live action.
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Post by chaosakita » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:44 am

I think Anna Tsuchiya would make a good Android 18.

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Post by The Time Traveller » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:50 am

6 movies. Family friendly but bloody and violent like certain other fantasy series, no pussying out! Also I've been thinking and discussing ideas with people for yeeeears so a lot of things are reeeeeeeally specific.

I mostly have ideas for character appearances and ways to streamline events.

Movie 1: Red Ribbon Army
  • Pilaf, Mai and Shu work for the Red Ribbon Army.
    Dr. Gero appears at some point.
    Oolong could be working for RR too.
    Gyumao's village and castle being invaded by RR.
    Kamesennin has plenty of swimsuit mags and women's underwear catalogues instead of straight up nudie mags, unless Playboy is acceptable?
    Yamcha and Puerh are still desert bandits.
    RR are already close to taking over the world.
    End with Kuririn arriving on Kame Island.
And because I love after credits scenes, show Pilaf & co finding whatever Piccolo Daimao is sealed in, have it be like a next episode preview with no narration from Goku.

Movie 2: Piccolo
  • Start with Goku and Kuririn being trained for the Tenkaichi Budoukai
    Goku and Kuririn are close friends by now.
    Rivalry between Kamesenryu and Tsurusenryu is shown, Kuririn VS Chaozu, Goku VS Tenshinhan.
    Tenshinhan's third eye would be hidden, have his forehead have a wrinkle that opens up as a third eye later in his fight with Goku when he's powering up.
    Tambourine has infiltrated the Tenkaichi Budoukai.
    Kuririn killed for the Si Xing Qiu in the middle of Goku's fight with Tenshinhan.
    Piccolo looks more like a monster as an older version of himself, grey cracked skin and whatnot.
    Whoever died in the saga dies here too, I forget who else died... Kamesennin and Chaozu? Also people think Goku is dead!
    Goku meets Yajirobe, who helps him meet Kami instead of Karin.
    Mr. Popo is a dark grey looking genie with fangs, pointy ears and beady eyes, skin looks glittery, nothing like a racist caricature but still looks the same as he should.
    Final match takes place where it sort of started, at the Tenkaichi grounds.
    Piccolo Daimao puts all his strength into creating one final monster after almost dying, HIS CLONE OR SON or whatever!
    Piccolo Jr. fights Goku, almost kills him, who then shows the evil monster mercy.
    Goku marries Chichi at the Tenkaichi grounds instead of just flying away and leaving it to Toei's imagination.
After the credits show a planet explode with three orbs flying past the camera.

Movie 3: Saiyans
  • Scouters are holographic, similar effect to Star Wars holograms, only red, blue and green.
    Metal armor that is extremely detailed, stretches kind of like those stretchy metal wristwatches, and transforms a little on the Saiyan's bodies like a movie Transformer
    Raditz's armor is extremely burnt, dented and broken in parts already, he's hairy and covered in scars, scouter barely works which is what he attributes Gohan's detected high battle power to.
    Nappa's armor is slightly better looking, lighter colour than Raditz's and only a few dents.
    Vegeta's armor looks silver and gold with some more small details added in, his battle suit underneath could look like the X-Men suits, only less detailed.
    The effect for the Makankosappo should be crazy and red, kind of psychedelic like it's bending space and making the sky dark, gotta look trippy when it's blasting through Raditz and Goku.
    Mr. Satan could appear on TV a few times on some fighting show similar to WWE as a minor bad guy, hence the name Mr. Satan.
    Kaio should probably be a CGI character unless Danny DeVito can play him well...
    The afterlife would look different to how it looks in the manga, more like a palace, or maybe like the Undead Burg from Dark Souls with a more Asian feel in places, but with a red sky and yellow clouds beneath, everything looks like it's on the top of a mountain
    Gohan's training should be more hellish, Piccolo is forcing him to fight animals that should easily kill a child right away
    The Saibai-men could be taller and scarier if they even appear, have them said to be almost as strong as Raditz so that Raditz isn't just pushed aside as some weakling that they don't even need.
    The fight between Goku and Vegeta should be extremely close to the manga.
    Vegeta's fur in Oozaru form is sticking through his armor and the limited stretch of the battle armor make it look extremely uncomfortable.
After the credits show Vegeta landing on an alien planet and being told that Freeza has left for Namek.

Movie 4: Namek
  • Armor worn by Freeza and his men is more advanced looking combared to the Saiyans'.
    Freeza looks slightly more frail than before, but that just makes him seem creepier, it's slowly revealed that he's still young and extremely strong.
    Freeza's third form would be removed or incorporated as part of his transformation to his final form.
    His final form would be hard to design right, it would look kind of silly if he was completely naked like in the manga, maybe have his armor hanging off of him at parts.
    Bulma and Vegeta interact more so their later relationship makes more sense to the audience.
    Skip the Ginew Force, or at least mention them once or twice...
    Namek looks more vibrant and less cyan, it looked so boring in the anime, make it slightly less of a mostly ocean planet, more mountains and maybe some forests.
    Super Saiyan is closer to the manga, white hair with lightish golden tint and glow, not dark blond or just yellow.
    Goku's hair as a Super Saiyan would move and look like he was underwater to make it look mystical and weird, sort of like Alice's hair in Alice Madness Returns but more pointed upwards.
    Replace Kiwi's rivalry with Vegeta with Zarbon's.
    Dodoria is bigger and more of a beast, definitely show off his lack of a heart when he kills children and elderly Namekians.
    It would be impossible to do Freeza coming back again in this or the next movie without it looking weird... just have Goku kill Freeza the way we thought he did on Namek.
After the credits show the future West City being destroyed by cyborgs and Trunks turning Super Saiyan from behind.

I can't really remember anything else for the Cell and Boo movies, all I know is Cell would have scales and look more like a lizard, but be blackish and leathery with a dark green tint, and Majin Boo would start off reddish pink and as he gets more and more evil more grey and have a lava-y look with pink instead of red, he'd look like a skinny stretchy moving molten lava monster by the end of the movie. I'll probably edit in other crazy ideas for these movies here later. I've had the perfect idea of Dragon Ball movies in my mind for aaaaaages and it'd be cool to see if I could write fanfictions, fanscripts or something, I'm just not good at writing!

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