WHAT.Hitiro wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up but certain attacks, due to the ferocity apparently, have been censored in America whereas the EU version of the game they aren't. Stuff like Broly ramming a persons face into the ground is replaced with a white screen.
Could you provide a video showing this atrocity? It would be interesting to see.Hitiro wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up but certain attacks, due to the ferocity apparently, have been censored in America whereas the EU version of the game they aren't. Stuff like Broly ramming a persons face into the ground is replaced with a white screen.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
Not only was Raditz/Goku bloody holes censored but it didn't feature the original opening, it has the custom DBZ B1 opening with Tenkaichi Tag Team music.bkev wrote:Wasn't it already discussed that the PAL territories version was censored too though? I thought at least Raditz's hole was covered up similar to Kai and that it was a change from the original version for that region.
Yes, I believe so, but this is the first time I've ever heard of the white screen being used to censor physical attacks. Covering up bloody wounds and holes are one thing, but to fade away from a physical attack that isn't even graphic in a Teen rated game, just fucking stupid.SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:wasn't there always a white screen at the end of Broly's attack? Doesn't it fade into the world blowing up afterwards?
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
Why in the world did you post that? All you did was to discourage them into buying the game. Not cool. Namco Bandai needs money to make a much better game, if possible. Without a profit, how can they develop a better game? More money needed to make a good quality game...Hitiro wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up but certain attacks, due to the ferocity apparently, have been censored in America whereas the EU version of the game they aren't. Stuff like Broly ramming a persons face into the ground is replaced with a white screen.
So, you suggest us buying a product with shit on it just so Bandai Namco can make money? Not cool from you. If they want us to buy a good game, then they should make a game that is worth it's money. We can't keep buying shit with the hope of getting a better game later. I'm not saying that the Budokai games shit, quite the opposite, but you got what I mean.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Why in the world did you post that? All you did was to discourage them into buying the game. Not cool. Namco Bandai needs money to make a much better game, if possible. Without a profit, how can they develop a better game? More money needed to make a good quality game...Hitiro wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up but certain attacks, due to the ferocity apparently, have been censored in America whereas the EU version of the game they aren't. Stuff like Broly ramming a persons face into the ground is replaced with a white screen.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
So it's better for people to buy the games and regret their purchase just so Namco can have more money? No, they shouldn't get more sales unless people actually want the games. If Hitiro has deterred anyone from purchasing the games with his post, then good on him, because that would otherwise mean that person would have been unsatisfied upon discovering the censorship.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Why in the world did you post that? All you did was to discourage them into buying the game. Not cool. Namco Bandai needs money to make a much better game, if possible. Without a profit, how can they develop a better game? More money needed to make a good quality game...Hitiro wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up but certain attacks, due to the ferocity apparently, have been censored in America whereas the EU version of the game they aren't. Stuff like Broly ramming a persons face into the ground is replaced with a white screen.
IRL it's really gory so it's logical that they painted it blood/red instead of a black hole or dust like in Kai/Censored B1.Cold Skin wrote:As for Raditz, it was already like that back then, and the manga doesn't have that much blood but a black hole, so if anything, that's actually closer to the manga.
Then if you want the ultimate version, you'll have to invest double the money, but it's possible:dbboxkaifan wrote: The only reason I'd want the US edition would be for the Japanese box art.
So? So what if they censored Broli's attack? If that's the only reason you are not buying the game, then I'm really disappointed in you. There's a lot more to this game than a mere attack that's been censored.Saiga wrote:So it's better for people to buy the games and regret their purchase just so Namco can have more money? No, they shouldn't get more sales unless people actually want the games. If Hitiro has deterred anyone from purchasing the games with his post, then good on him, because that would otherwise mean that person would have been unsatisfied upon discovering the censorship.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Why in the world did you post that? All you did was to discourage them into buying the game. Not cool. Namco Bandai needs money to make a much better game, if possible. Without a profit, how can they develop a better game? More money needed to make a good quality game...Hitiro wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up but certain attacks, due to the ferocity apparently, have been censored in America whereas the EU version of the game they aren't. Stuff like Broly ramming a persons face into the ground is replaced with a white screen.
Those cases of censorship have always been like this in the PAL version. And it's no big deal.dragondyle wrote:This Budokai Collection is the Kai of the video games. With replacement music and censorship. I recently bought the game and finished all of Budokai 1's story. Broly's attack isn't the only censorship. The blood coming out of Vegetas mouth in the Freeza saga and the blood coming out of the hole Krillin blasted into Vegeta was removed. Also, the large holes in peoples bodies like, Raditz and Goku when Piccolo blasted them and when Cell blasted Trunks, were turned into black holes.
Also, here's an interesting tidbit. They kept the original spelling for the Saibamen in the game: Saibaimen. Along with them spelling it this way in the cutscenes, it's also kept this way in the before battle screen and his name in the battle screen.
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Why in the world did you post that? All you did was to discourage them into buying the game. Not cool. Namco Bandai needs money to make a much better game, if possible. Without a profit, how can they develop a better game? More money needed to make a good quality game...
I was just pointing this out to people who didn't know, I love the Budokai series and I would love to see a new title with online play and hopefully a pro scene can develop from the game series. That being said people still have a right to know about things like this even if I want to heavily support the game. I believe that if a game is doing something wrong then the audience should voice their opinions. But that shouldn't stop people from buying the game. It should just make them speak up about it within the community so the issue is addressed later on if a sequel or new title were to come out.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:So, you suggest us buying a product with shit on it just so Bandai Namco can make money? Not cool from you. If they want us to buy a good game, then they should make a game that is worth it's money. We can't keep buying shit with the hope of getting a better game later. I'm not saying that the Budokai games shit, quite the opposite, but you got what I mean.
http://youtu.be/SuwNxNzmuTk?t=8m50s Here is a YT video of a guy who is pretty good at the game commentating on the censorship in a review. He was the one who pointed it out to me and if you watch the video from this point you'll see what I'm talking about. I'll be checking my own copy to see if its true that the EU version isn't censored later. I haven't gotten the chance to see for myself as I don't usually use ultimate attacks due to hyper mode being a generally bad mechanic. If it is uncensored here in the EU then I'll post a video showing it without the censorship if you want.dbboxkaifan wrote:Could you provide a video showing this atrocity? It would be interesting to see.
Thanks.
Well I'm not really making a big deal out of it. I'm just pointing out facts of what was changed.Cold Skin wrote:Those cases of censorship have always been like this in the PAL version. And it's no big deal.dragondyle wrote:This Budokai Collection is the Kai of the video games. With replacement music and censorship. I recently bought the game and finished all of Budokai 1's story. Broly's attack isn't the only censorship. The blood coming out of Vegetas mouth in the Freeza saga and the blood coming out of the hole Krillin blasted into Vegeta was removed. Also, the large holes in peoples bodies like, Raditz and Goku when Piccolo blasted them and when Cell blasted Trunks, were turned into black holes.
Also, here's an interesting tidbit. They kept the original spelling for the Saibamen in the game: Saibaimen. Along with them spelling it this way in the cutscenes, it's also kept this way in the before battle screen and his name in the battle screen.
If it was censorship that spoiled the story or scenes, maybe. But just like for Kai, this censorship makes you lose nothing, I'm not here to see Raditz uselessly spitting out a river of blood when the scene already makes it clear in itself that it's a deadly shot, just like for Vegeta being blasted through by Krilin.
This is maybe how some of you guys like it, maybe you'd enjoy it even more if we could see his guts out, but artistically, that adds nothing to the emotion or the information given, it already appears very clear that it's a pretty bad situation the character is in.
Seeing Vegeta crying tears is what matters, not seeing Vegeta spiting blood "in case you didn't understand that being shot in the heart is a deadly and painful situation".
Seeing blood on someone's face is important to show they're damaged and that the battle is fierce, otherwise you get the sense that it's not so bad. But making someone vomit blood is just free violence that brings nothing new with it and adds no impact, except being able to say "see?! See?! This show's not for kids! I told you it's for adults!! I'm watching something kids can't see, I'm not a kid!!"
So really, it's disappointing seeing people making every case of censorship a national scandal.
Nicktoons kind of censorship would be outrageous if it was forced onto us, because you really lose some impact by avoiding blood on the face or mentions of death.
Regular Kai censorship is nothing to worry about, the scenario is kept intact, you lose nothing from the feeling you're supposed to have, and spitting blood doesn't makes the battle anymore intense than when already having a face covered in blood and having trouble to catch up your breath.
