Kai Continues Outside Japan

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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:45 pm

penguintruth wrote:Maybe it'll be completely re-animated, so cuts won't be as awkward?

That's likely to happen, right?

Right?

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Most likely.

I forgot, but considering that Toei Animation used the limited amount of Kikuchi tracks because those ones were stereo and the others weren't... erm.. the music might be the same. Oh dammit.

And this isn't even for the original Japanese fans so I don't see Toei Animation giving it their best at all for foreign viewers. Probably another sloppy Kai job.
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by linkdude20002001 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:14 pm

At least the Majin Boo arc music will be in the right story arc now. >_>
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by matt0044 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:56 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: And this isn't even for the original Japanese fans so I don't see Toei Animation giving it their best at all for foreign viewers. Probably another sloppy Kai job.
I just wish that they'd take their time and use MORE tracks so it doesn't get too repetitive like before when they had to rush.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:10 pm

I wonder how Sabat and Schemmel will fare with Vegetto in Kai...
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:13 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I wonder how Sabat and Schemmel will fare with Vegetto in Kai...
I hope they won't use auto-tune because who'd want Vegito to sound like a robot.. *cough* lil wayne *cough*.
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:32 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Since it might be hard to cut around the stuff with Kid Boo on Grand Kaio's world, maybe they could delegate an explanation of what Goku did in that tournament in the opening, 'last time' type thing for the first new episode.
I don't really see how. In the manga, didn't they just raise their ki to call him right away? I don't see why they couldn't cut the whole segment of Boo on Grand Kaio's world and have them call Boo right away.
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Post by songohan619 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:29 pm

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DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I wonder how Sabat and Schemmel will fare with Vegetto in Kai...
I hope they won't use auto-tune because who'd want Vegito to sound like a robot.. *cough* lil wayne *cough*.
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:52 pm

They didn't it's just that today's musicians use auto-tune for about everything and then I wouldn't be surprised if FUNimation tried it too, to see if it'd get better results.
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:47 pm

If they did that then all those musical numbers Vegetto sings would be ruined.

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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by CaBrPi » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:49 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:They didn't it's just that today's musicians use auto-tune for about everything and then I wouldn't be surprised if FUNimation tried it too, to see if it'd get better results.
That's an incredibly random thought.

He'll probably sound just about the same as he did in the original Funimation dub.

I wonder if Laura Bailey's going to return as Trunks. Personally, I thought she did a decent job in the first place, so who knows how good she'd be now.

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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:53 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Hmm...they'll probably have to keep at least parts of the Pterodactyl stuff in the Saiyaman arc, right? I seem to recall the anime having the end of that be how Videl figures out who Gohan is.
Well, they could do the same thing that I did for my own custom "kai" edit, wherein I managed to make it so that Gohan gets the cut on his face after the first encounter with Videl while rescuing the bus, and then cut to the two of them at school the next day where Videl finds Gohan out. It wasn't easy to do, but if some fan with too much time on his hands can pull it off, I'd hope that the professionals at Toei could do the same.
CaBrPi wrote:I wonder if Laura Bailey's going to return as Trunks. Personally, I thought she did a decent job in the first place, so who knows how good she'd be now.
Well, personally, I couldn't stand her Trunks so I really hope she gets replaced; her voice for the character just didn't work for me.

Speaking of which, I also never liked the voice of Goten OR Videl from the original dub, so I hope they find better actors for those roles. In the case of Goten, I just didn't think the voice was good for the characther, much like Trunks. For Videl, the voice might be okay, but the acting ruins it for me. It's the same thing with Gohan, whose voice (Kyle Hebert) I actually think works very well for the character, but the acting is so poor that it makes me want to gouge my ears off. Hopefully, as has been the case with the English dub of Kai, the acting will improve if they choose to use the same actors. But again, Goten and Trunks need to be replaced.
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:09 pm

Huh. I always thought Kara Edwards did an excellent Goten and Videl. And this is me we're talking about.
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:21 pm

That's an error of quoting.
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Post by dbzkfan543 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:22 pm

Colleen Clinkenbeard should play Goten. It would keep consistency with Kai and the new 'Curse of the Blood Rubies' dub, and she has a really nice voice too.

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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:35 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:That's an error of quoting.
Fixed, sorry about that.

I wouldn't mind Colleen playing Goten, I just hope that she would play it at least slightly differently than she plays Gohan or Goku, making it so that every voice of hers doesn't sound exactly the same.

I would love for Saffron Henderson to come back and play Goten; she was the best Young Goku/Gohan that I've heard so far. But I guess she's with the Ocean Group, so the chances of that happening are slim to none.
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Re: Kai Continues Outside Japan

Post by matt0044 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:42 pm

I do hope they get a better Boo. Or if they get an old actor, they give a better delivery.
IAmTheMilkMan wrote: Well, they could do the same thing that I did for my own custom "kai" edit, wherein I managed to make it so that Gohan gets the cut on his face after the first encounter with Videl while rescuing the bus, and then cut to the two of them at school the next day where Videl finds Gohan out. It wasn't easy to do, but if some fan with too much time on his hands can pull it off, I'd hope that the professionals at Toei could do the same.
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Post by Gonstead » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:25 pm

penguintruth wrote:Huh. I always thought Kara Edwards did an excellent Goten and Videl. And this is me we're talking about.
Same here. I really enjoy their performances in the Buu Saga and it would really be a shame if she got replaced.
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Post by bkev » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:52 pm

I can very easily see FUNimation going the Colleen Clinkenbeard route with Goten given their lack of respect to previous actors. Though I'd prefer that not be the case it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:02 pm

matt0044 wrote:Link to your video?
Sorry, man, no can do; I don't want to violate any rules here.

And I stand by how I feel about Kara Edwards voicing Goten and Videl. Again, her Videl might turn out okay if her performance dramatically improves, which is a possibility given the better direction of the Kai dub. However, I would prefer somebody with a softer, less "tomboyish" voice, much like her Japanese counterpart. I still really don't like her Goten, though, and I'm really hoping they find a replacement.
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Post by spikevegeta » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:15 am

I figured I'd re-post this now that it appears we're getting a Kai Buu Arc. These are my episode predictions.

Majin Buu Arc:
99: Gohan goes to High School, Bulma makes him an outfit, Great Saiyaman starts two reckless drivers.
100: Videl finds out he's Gohan, tells him fight in the Tournament, Goku says he will fight too.
101: Gohan starts training with Goten, Goten goes SSJ, Videl comes over.
102: Videl learns how to fly, lots of training stuff, Videl flies home.
103: Everyone goes to the Tournament, Goku shows up, Vegeta breaks the Punching Machine.
104: Junior Division, Goten and Trunks have the first round of their fight.
105: Trunks wins, punches Satan out of the ring.
106: We meet Supreme Kai, All the matches are set.
107: Krillin wins, Piccolo gives up, Videl and Spopovich get up to where Spopovich is flying up to her.
108: Spopovich beats Videl, Gohan starts going SSJ against Kibito.
109: Yamu/Spopovich steal Gohan's energy, everyone follows them, Gohan and Kibito leave Videl behind.
110: Babidi is revealed, Vegeta and Pui Pui square off.
111: Vegeta/Goku win, Dabura says he will fight in Level 3.
112: All Battle Royal Stuff, finishing with Satan winning.
113: Dabura/Gohan fight, Vegeta is turned Majin, Vegeta blows up half the arena.
114: Vegeta states how much he hates Goku, Goku/Vegeta fight, ending with Goku kicking Vegeta into the cave in DBZ episode 230.
115: Goku/Vegeta fight more, Buu's egg hatches, Buu is about to form.
116: Buu knocks out Dabura, knocks both Gohan/Supreme Kai into the ground.
117: Buu eats Dabura, Vegeta shows up, starts beating up Buu.
118: Buu turns the tables on Vegeta, Piccolo slices Babidi in half, Vegeta blows up.
119: Majin Buu/Babidi are still alive, Goku wakes up, Shenron is summoned.
120: Everyone is brought back life, Kibito/Kai leave with Gohan, Babidi tells everyone to look for Goten/Trunks/Piccolo.
121: Gohan is brought to the Kai World, Goku starts teaching the boys fusion, Gohan pulls out the Zeta Sword, Babidi says he's heading to West City.
122: Goku goes SSJ3, Goku and Majin Buu fight a bunch.
123: Goku leaves the fight, Buu kills Babidi/goes on a rampage, Goku continues teaching Fusion.
124: Buu makes his house, Goku goes back to the afterlife/finds Gohan, Piccolo starts teaching Fusion.
125: Buu meets the blind boy, Old Kai comes out of the broken sword/starts powering up Gohan.
126: Gotenks is formed, comes back beaten up. Satan messes with Buu, ends with him giving Buu a bath.
127: Super Gotenks is formed, Bee is shot, Satan beats up the two men.
128: Satan is shot, Evil Buu forms/eats Fat Buu, Super Buu goes to the lookout.
129: Buu kills everyone else on earth, enters the Room of Spirit and Time.
130: Gotenks/Buu fight, Piccolo blows up the door.
131: Buu escapes and eats everyone, Gotenks/Piccolo escape, Gotenks beats up Super Buu.
132: Gotenks de-fuses, Gohan shows up/beats up Super Buu, Super Buu prepares to blow up.
133: Buu explodes, Dende/Mr. Satan are found, Buu absorbs Gotenks/Piccolo, starts to beat up Gohan.
134: More Buu/Gohan fighting, Old Kai gives his life to Goku, Goku shows up and chops Buu in half.
135: Buu Absorbs Gohan, Goku/Vegeta fight Buu, Vegetto is formed.
136: Lots of Vegetto/Buu fighting, ends with Vegetto being turned into candy.
137: More fighting, Vegetto gets absorbed, ends with Goku/Vegeta finding the others.
138: Goku/Vegeta fight Buu, escape with the others, Buu turns into Kid Buu.
139: Supreme Kai flashbacks, Kid Buu blows up Earth, reforms in space.
140: Kid Buu goes to Kai planet, Goku/Kid Buu fight, Vegeta steps in and starts getting beaten up.
141: Goku jumps back in, Vegeta shows respect, starts getting beaten up to give Goku time, Kid Buu spits out Fat Buu after Satan steps in.
142: Fat Buu/Kid Buu start fighting, Goku loses SSJ3, Vegeta makes his wishes and tells Goku to prepare the Genki-Dama.
143: Lots of pleading to earthlings, Satan tells them to give their energy, Goku finishes the Genki-Dama.
144: Goku kills Kid Buu, everyone is happy up on Kami's lookout.
145: 10 years later, everyone goes to the tournament in search of the "New Buu", we meet Pan, she fights.
146: Goku/Uub Fight, Goku and him fly off to train.

So 48 episodes total. I felt pretty confident about this when the series was running 2 years ago, but I could see Toei maybe rushing this a little bit in this instance. I'll still be shocked if the whole thing ends up being less than 40 episodes though.

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