Does Kibito Kai surpass Grand and South Supreme Kai's power?

[Angelus]

East Supreme Kai was stated to be the weakest among the Supreme Kais. However, did his potara fusion with Kibito make him more powerful than Grand Supreme Kai and South Supreme Kai? In both magic and power.

[Shineman]

He was confident enough to the point he wanted to help Goku fight Buuhan, only to be scolded by Elder Kaioshin. Take that what you will.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I think KibitoKai is likely stronger than a Super Saiyan 2, but weaker than a Super Saiyan 3. For me, that places him above Dai Kaioshin and South Kaioshin.

[Fox666]

I doubt so, it appeared he would have been useless against Pure Boo, unlike Vegeta.

[Saiga]

I think he would have, or Potara must really suck for non-rivals. I have him roughly between SS2 Adult Gohan and SS2 Vegeta before Babidi's spell, so much stronger than Dai/South Kaioshin.

[Fox666]

Maybe you overestimating the effects a fusion would have?

[Saiga]

Maybe you overestimating the effects a fusion would have?

If his strength doesn't even double than I consider that a pretty crappy result.

[dbzfan7]

I haven't seen Kaioshin ever do anything except restrain an weaker SSJ2 Gohan. Personally I say only his psychic abilities may be stronger. Other then that I might place him around SSJ-low SSJ2 physical power, But high SSJ2-SSJ3 psychic power. I still don't believe in the rival boost garbage theory. I say it depends on compatibility, power, mind set, and what qualities make up for each fusee's fault. The poll opposites of Goku and Vegeta counter act their negative traits, thus making Vegetto a better and more capable fighter.

[Titan]

Kibitoshin should have been stronger than a ssj2 or at least close to it, however,
Toriyama always refuses to use a non-saiyajin character in the final arc and that is
the reason why he never did anything.

[mistershin]

I place East Kaioshin = Adult SSJ2 Gohan.
He restricted/contained all of SSJ2 Gohan's power, Gohan could not move at all.
(You would have to be about equal to the person to pull it off.
I would liken it to physically restraining someone's movement, you would have to be equal to do it)

Secondly, he held on longer than Gohan against Majin Buu.

Kibito on the other hand is just plain weak. So I would say the fusion pushes Kibito Kai to slightly under South Kaioshin's power.

I have South Kaioshin >= SSJ3 Goku, South Kaioshin pushed Kid Buu to use absorption, Goku didnt.

[Bussani]

He restricted/contained all of SSJ2 Gohan's power, Gohan could not move at all.
(You would have to be about equal to the person to pull it off.
I would liken it to physically restraining someone's movement, you would have to be equal to do it)

I'm not so sure about that. Chiaotzu was able to hold back Goku in the 22nd tournament, who should have been decently stronger than him; and Gurd was able to paralyze Kuririn and Gohan, even though they seemed to outclass him quite a bit. These weird psychic powers probably don't depend on battle power, and even though it is possible to defeat them with a high enough battle power of your own, I don't think there's any way to guess Kaioshin's strength from it. He could just be a weakling with strong special powers.

[omegalucas]

He restricted/contained all of SSJ2 Gohan's power, Gohan could not move at all.
(You would have to be about equal to the person to pull it off.
I would liken it to physically restraining someone's movement, you would have to be equal to do it)

I'm not so sure about that. Chiaotzu was able to hold back Goku in the 22nd tournament, who should have been decently stronger than him; and Gurd was able to paralyze Kuririn and Gohan, even though they seemed to outclass him quite a bit. These weird psychic powers probably don't depend on battle power, and even though it is possible to defeat them with a high enough battle power of your own, I don't think there's any way to guess Kaioshin's strength from it. He could just be a weakling with strong special powers.

Android 16 did it also to Perfect Cell during the fight with Gohan (when trying to self-destruct), and that was even a physical grip.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I think Kibito Kaioshin is weaker than SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta but he pretty close to enraged SSJ2 Gohan from the Cell games. So yes I would say Kibito Kaioshin is stronger than Daikaioshin and Southern Kaioshin.