Will Nicktoons stick with Dragon Ball?
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Will Nicktoons stick with Dragon Ball?
As most of you know, GT's run on Nicktoons ends tonight. Now a lot of you guys assume Nicktoons will either run Kai Buu Saga when the dub's ready or the original DB.
Now the problem is, patience is a virtue. Kai Buu in English probably won't be out until late next year or the year after. Plus with skipping to GT, Nicktoons confused a lot of kids. In addition, the ending is already spoiled. GT makes references to the end of the Buu saga, Buu himself is in it, plus the montage at the end of 64 shows how the saga ends
Now they did air the movies before the end of Kai that takes place in the Buu saga, spoiling Goku's death. And yeah, they could just air Kai Buu as 'lost episodes' and air the OG DB as filler time until it's ready. But is it worth it? Nicktoons seemed to be losing interest in the franchise anyways, Kai only being played at 2 am now, no daytime encores. GT was moved to a 10:30 slot for episodes, granted now it's being ran at 6:30. But no more endless marathons, hell they didn't even give GT a marathon. I felt like this whole situation was just getting back at CN for years of competition and getting their big money maker acquisition.
However, they know there's still a large amount of people waiting for DBZ to return to Toonami. It's possible they'll hold the rights as long as possible just to screw with them. It's also possible they'll just say 'screw it!' and let the rights go. If Toonami and FUNi really want it and find the budget it for it, FUNi might just screw Nick over and get rid of the contract (if that's even possible, or just find some sort of loophole or downgrade the deal so they only have GT and Kai)
So from a business standpoint, it would make sense for them to stick with the franchise. However the flip side shows that it doesn't really make much sense now. Doesn't look like they'll air the rest of the movies anytime soon either.
Now the problem is, patience is a virtue. Kai Buu in English probably won't be out until late next year or the year after. Plus with skipping to GT, Nicktoons confused a lot of kids. In addition, the ending is already spoiled. GT makes references to the end of the Buu saga, Buu himself is in it, plus the montage at the end of 64 shows how the saga ends
Now they did air the movies before the end of Kai that takes place in the Buu saga, spoiling Goku's death. And yeah, they could just air Kai Buu as 'lost episodes' and air the OG DB as filler time until it's ready. But is it worth it? Nicktoons seemed to be losing interest in the franchise anyways, Kai only being played at 2 am now, no daytime encores. GT was moved to a 10:30 slot for episodes, granted now it's being ran at 6:30. But no more endless marathons, hell they didn't even give GT a marathon. I felt like this whole situation was just getting back at CN for years of competition and getting their big money maker acquisition.
However, they know there's still a large amount of people waiting for DBZ to return to Toonami. It's possible they'll hold the rights as long as possible just to screw with them. It's also possible they'll just say 'screw it!' and let the rights go. If Toonami and FUNi really want it and find the budget it for it, FUNi might just screw Nick over and get rid of the contract (if that's even possible, or just find some sort of loophole or downgrade the deal so they only have GT and Kai)
So from a business standpoint, it would make sense for them to stick with the franchise. However the flip side shows that it doesn't really make much sense now. Doesn't look like they'll air the rest of the movies anytime soon either.
GT isn't bad, just sucks ass in comparison to the other 2 animes.
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We probably won't see much of anything DragonBall on Nicktoons right up until they're about to air the new episodes of DBZK. Then we'll probably get a DBZK marathon of or a DBZK block over the course of a few days.
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They have the license it's done some good things in their benefit so I don't think they're going to drop the franchise. I'm guessing now that GT is ending they'll just keep re-running the series(maybe even out of order) until they can get their hands on new material. If they can't, well give it a year or two before it's totally gone off air.
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Kai is getting the Buu saga soon. So they will keep on playing re-runs until the Buu saga of Kai is done.
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They better not still air it on Nicktoons. Just put it on Toonami for nostalgia
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Toei wants money. Toonami has no money. Math.TheMightyOzaru wrote:They better not still air it on Nicktoons. Just put it on Toonami for nostalgia.
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K find a station that wont censor every last thing. Seriously its really sad that they had to censor Bardock's scar...
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Does it really matter how edited it is if it's only on the TV version though? Edits, so long as they stay there, don't really bother me.
The 'MAH TRUCK!' moment seeping past TV and onto the DVDs? That bugs me a bit since it shouldn't be there in the uncut version (though it's hardly a dealbreaker for me).
Blue Popo on the other hand? That just makes me laugh horribly at how ridiculous it is, rather than rage, since it's only on TV that it's like that.
As for the question, I'm not sure what to think...I'd like to think maybe they'll grab the original Dragon Ball until the Buu arc of Kai is ready, but who knows. I'd have more faith in them eventually getting the rest of Kai if they did that though, rather than just letting Kai and GT be in reruns for who knows how long until it's time again.
Off topic slightly, I wouldn't mind them picking something else up from FUNi too, that would do well with slight edits. Yu Yu Hakusho and One Piece both say hi.
The 'MAH TRUCK!' moment seeping past TV and onto the DVDs? That bugs me a bit since it shouldn't be there in the uncut version (though it's hardly a dealbreaker for me).
Blue Popo on the other hand? That just makes me laugh horribly at how ridiculous it is, rather than rage, since it's only on TV that it's like that.
As for the question, I'm not sure what to think...I'd like to think maybe they'll grab the original Dragon Ball until the Buu arc of Kai is ready, but who knows. I'd have more faith in them eventually getting the rest of Kai if they did that though, rather than just letting Kai and GT be in reruns for who knows how long until it's time again.
Off topic slightly, I wouldn't mind them picking something else up from FUNi too, that would do well with slight edits. Yu Yu Hakusho and One Piece both say hi.
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It's taken them this long to air all of Dragon Ball GT?
And that awful Mark Menza music version, to boot?
Who was watching it?
(I hope DBZ never returns to TV, because I don't like the idea of more people being exposed to the horrible dub.)
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I only DBZ to return on CN if it's Kai uncut. Kai had a pretty good dub in my opinion and I rather have people watch that instead of the old dubs.
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More fans is more fans either way, regardless of which version they get into. More fans means more potential money for the franchise. I fail to see how this is a bad thing.penguintruth wrote:(I hope DBZ never returns to TV, because I don't like the idea of more people being exposed to the horrible dub.)
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The problem is fans are easily lead, and they might mistake the dub for being an accurate portrayal of the show.Gyt Kaliba wrote:More fans is more fans either way, regardless of which version they get into. More fans means more potential money for the franchise. I fail to see how this is a bad thing.penguintruth wrote:(I hope DBZ never returns to TV, because I don't like the idea of more people being exposed to the horrible dub.)
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The dub really isn't all that horrible, it has got better throughout the years. I bet a lot of people watched the dub version first, became a fan and then enjoyed the original JP version and the manga. What's wrong with new fans enjoying the same dub we all watched years ago? What's bad is there is a lot of fans that think the Buu saga has never existed and is being created exclusively for Kai.
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If they're a fan of the show, they're a fan of the show, that might just give their money to the franchise, though. It's that simple. And it's not completely insane to think that some of those fans exposed to the dub might eventually also become fans of the original Japanese version. I know for a fact that that can happen, because uh - hi. *raises hand* I'm one of them. And if it's about how unbearable some fans that only like the dub can be, there are some that are just as unbearable on the other side of the language wall too. It's not a one-audio thing.penguintruth wrote:The problem is fans are easily lead, and they might mistake the dub for being an accurate portrayal of the show.
Anyway, I feel like we've done this dance before (probably have), and having Kai and with the Buu arc on the way no less, I really doubt original DBZ in any form (outside of the movies) is going to make it's way to Nicktoons.
Phew, someone besides me does realize that can and does happen.Avenged wrote:I bet a lot of people watched the dub version first, became a fan and then enjoyed the original JP version and the manga.
Hmm. Here's a thought though - what do you guys think the chances are of, down the line once it's been licensed and dubbed, of Nicktoons getting to air Battle of Gods?
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I think it would be neat if they showed it on Nicktoons eventually, but I sure hope they don't air a version with Drowning Pool and Dust for Life as the soundtrack.
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What about Pantera? Pretty sure they also used some decent songs in the dubbed movies.penguintruth wrote:I think it would be neat if they showed it on Nicktoons eventually, but I sure hope they don't air a version with Drowning Pool and Dust for Life as the soundtrack.
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Nah, I doubt they'll ever go back to the route of using licensed US rock music in the dubs again. Hell, I dunno how they managed it back then. And I'm not saying this from a music replacement standpoint (though I do prefer they just leave stuff alone now too), but can you imagine the costs? Those bands must have been smaller back then and more affordable or something.
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Drowning Pool doesn't exist anymore. Pantera was passed their prime. Uhm, can't think of who else they used at this moment. I've always imagined they would use someone such as Avenged sevenfold or Linkin stinkin Park in a live action film or any other animated movies.Gyt Kaliba wrote:Nah, I doubt they'll ever go back to the route of using licensed US rock music in the dubs again. Hell, I dunno how they managed it back then. And I'm not saying this from a music replacement standpoint (though I do prefer they just leave stuff alone now too), but can you imagine the costs? Those bands must have been smaller back then and more affordable or something.
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I had no idea Drowning Pool didn't exist now. Guess this is what I get for not following music really heh.
I know Disturbed is still around, and were featured in at least two of the movies. Beyond that though, I never even heard of half the other bands (things like Boy Hits Car, Tendril, and Haji's Kitchen).
I would actually laugh my ass off at Linkin Park being in a DB title somewhere in the future, in any official capacity, just cuz of all the AMV's, heh.
I know Disturbed is still around, and were featured in at least two of the movies. Beyond that though, I never even heard of half the other bands (things like Boy Hits Car, Tendril, and Haji's Kitchen).
I would actually laugh my ass off at Linkin Park being in a DB title somewhere in the future, in any official capacity, just cuz of all the AMV's, heh.
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I remember it premiered about a year ago. I watched the first few episodes on NickToons and then stopped. That awful replacement music is just unbearable.
I'll be watching just because I like the last episode of GT, though.
I'll be watching just because I like the last episode of GT, though.






