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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by HECTOR4 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:16 pm

DNA wrote:
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote: not a new SS3.
Future Goku isn´t the same character that Goku of the present. Would have to check whether that Goku with Yardratian costume is coming from the future or not.
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Gee it sure is Dragon Ball Wikia in here.
Seriously, just stop it, there is no Future Goku card. This is no new Super Saiyan 3. It's been said time and time again.
The Yardratian costume is a clear reference to Goku from begining of the androids-saga, but in the game are making a reference to Goku from the future timeline. Surely is Future Goku In-Game, is not my invention ^^...In the Story Game Beat fight alongside Future Goku, Future Gohan and Future Trunks.
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HECTOR4 wrote:Future Goku isn´t the same character that Goku of the present. It's the same with Trunks, Future Trunks and Present Trunks isn´t the same character. Would have to check whether that Goku with Yardratian costume is coming from the future or not.
Yes, they're technically different characters, but the game doesn't acknowledge this. But just like if you wanted to pretend you were playing as "Future" Vegeta vs. "Future" 17 and "Future" 18 in Trunks' timeline for Raging Blast 2, you're still actually playing as the regular characters, they're just being used to represent a different incarnation of them. The Goku in this mission is still "Son Goku", not "Son Goku: Future", so he's not a "new" transformation like SS3 Gogeta, SS3 Future Trunks, SS Bardock, etc.
In the Future Trunks cards is written the word "Mirai" to distinguish him?

And OK, I understand perfectly what you mean ^ ^

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:44 pm

HECTOR4 wrote:In the Future Trunks cards is written the word "Mirai" to distinguish him?

And OK, I understand perfectly what you mean ^ ^
Yes, like some of the other characters, Trunks and Gohan have various titles to help distinguish what era they are supposed to be from. But exclusive to them as well, they also have titles to distinguish between the alternate timelines:

"Main" Timeline
Trunks: Childhood
Trunks: GT
Son Gohan: Childhood
Son Gohan: Boyhood
Son Gohan: Adolescent
Son Gohan: GT

Trunks' Timeline
Trunks: Adolescent
Trunks: Future
Son Gohan: Future
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:52 am

So, someone is showing off details from GM6's campaign card set (not the regular cards), which, instead of allowing you to summon a giant character for an attack, allows you to transform into a giant character by making a big circle with the card on the stage when prompted. So far, only Oozaru seem to be included, but among them are:

HG6-CP1 SS3 Son Goku: GT -> Super Oozaru Son Goku
HG6-CP2 Son Goku: GT -> Super Oozaru Son Goku
HG6-CP3 Son Gohan: Boyhood -> Oozaru Son Gohan
HG6-CP4 Vegeta -> Oozaru Vegeta
HG6-CP5 Vegeta -> Oozaru Vegeta
HG6-CP6 King Vegta -> Oozaru King Vegeta (not this set's SEC)
HG6-CP7 Super Bebi Vegeta 2 -> Super Oozaru Bebi Vegeta
HG6-CP8 Super Bebi Vegeta 2 -> Super Oozaru Bebi Vegeta

So, while not exactly exciting or new since we already had Oozaru King Vegeta in the Sparking! games (though the blurry art doesn't help, he doesn't seem to have the beard from that game in the card art), but it is nice to see these past game exclusives return. In the future, we can probably expect cards for Nappa, Raditz, Tullece, Paragus (will actually be new), Bardock, etc.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:41 pm

Hey nice, I like that. Only Ozarus though? What about Slug? And speaking of new giant transformations, wouldn't mind seeing a Giant Piccolo again. Or maybe an Ozaru Broli..?

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:06 pm

Sorry for double posting but I feel the need to share a few thoughts.

It really bugs me that some characters have their transformations as separate characters. This has been happening in Galaxy Mission. I'm okay with Janemba Baby being a separate character but I don't understand why Rilld and Vegeta Baby have all their forms as separate.
I also don't get why some characters have merge cards and some don't. I really like that they did that for Uub, merges with Buu for Super Uub, but for some reason 13 doesn't, Janemba and Baby also don't have it.
There are just so many things that don't match up. We have Baby infected characters as a "transformation", but the Ghost Warriors didn't have that, even thought the cards themselves acknowledge that, Tullece doesn't have one at all.
Not only that but as it has been noticed many times before, it grinds me up the fact that they're super anal about completing some henchmen teams and then squander it on others. Zeeun and Yamu are playable characters even though they did jack shit, but not Kyui or Yakon though, oh no. They randomly add Tobi in, might as well have added Kyabira as well while you're at it. They add Dr. M who showed absolutely no fighting prowess or potential but ignore Dr. Raichi who was an actual boss in his game. Also Babidi was playable before.
And then there's the forms, oh dear. No base Broli or Bojack, no transformed Zarbon or Gokua, no base Janemba or Hildegan.
Sigh, as a final note on completion and missing characters, Kibito would be nice, he was going to fight and he is the other half of a fusion character. Hoi would add a little bit more to the Dragon Fist Explosion set of cards. Bra is the last remaining hybrid Saiyan who hasn't been covered, plus she would be yet another feminine character in an otherwise sausage fest.

In other things, I see the potential for between 3 to 4 new sets relating to GT. I don't see them extending Super 17 more than one set, or rather, don't see the point in it, and I can totally see the Evil Dragons being done in 2 sets, of course this is subjective since the Baby arc has been going on for 3 sets now.
Besides that, it goes without saying that sets for Return my Gohan, World's Strongest and Goku and Friends Return could still see the light of day, although the next one is probably going to be Battle of Gods.
A set covering Final Solitary Battle might still be a possibility since Defiance in the Face of Despair is being covered as well in the next set apparently.
At last, I'm still hoping for a set for Neko Majin and maybe one for Goku Junior and Vegeta Junior.
So there's potential there for at least around 7 more sets, that should cover the whole of 2013 easily.

As a final note, if they wanted to stretch things and scratch the barrel, they could make a set covering the battle between Buu and the Kaioshins, you'd have five new characters right there, each with at least two cards as usual, ten new cards, bam.

Thoughts? Agree? Disagree? I'd like to see what people think about this.

Edit: Decided to also cover what I think about future "what-ifs" or whatever you want to call them.
I don't think we've seen the end of the Super Saiyan 3. As many have pointed out, I could see them do Son Gohan: Adolescence, Son Gohan: GT, Vegeta: GT, Son Goten: GT and Vegetto as Super Saiyan 3.
I would still like to see Pan and Tullece as Super Saiyan.
After Ozaru King Vegeta I could definitely see the return from Sparking Meteor: Bardock, Raditz, Nappa, Tullece and Paragus as the new one. I could see a Super Ozaru Broli.
As for Super Saiyan 4, Son Gohan: GT, Broli and Vegetto.
Moving away from Saiyans, like I said, a Giant Piccolo would be cool to see but also a "Majin" Piccolo, finally dealing with that, it has been addressed in some games before.
For everything else, I believe Janenba Baby might have opened the door for future Baby versions of other characters, as we've seen with Buu in Budokai 2. Baby Freeza, Baby Cell, Super 17 Baby, Baby Piccolo maybe? Would love to see a Baby Dabra.

Speaking of that game, still waiting for the return of said Buu absorptions and the glorious come back of Yamhan. Come on game, the models and main attacks are done already. "Majin" Freeza and "Majin" Cell would also be welcome at this point.
Again with the completion, the three main physical alterations: "Majin", Buu and Baby; if we have Piccolo, Vegeta, Freeza and Cell we cover all the main villains of Goku's adult life, apart from Buu for obvious reasons.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:59 pm

I think that once they'll finish covering the Shadow Dragons, they'll add Dragon Ball charaters such as Kid Goku, Piccolo Daimao, General Blue, Arale, etc.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:58 pm

They still have Heroes Legacy. I guess they could make a Gogeta Jr. card which might be pretty cool to see.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:35 am

After Baby Janemba I wouldn't be surprised if they did things SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta Jr or a Pan and Bra fusion character. Heck I'm half expecting SSJ Random Saiyan Girl From Bar in TV Special 1.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:26 am

JeffJarrett wrote:I think that once they'll finish covering the Shadow Dragons, they'll add Dragon Ball charaters such as Kid Goku, Piccolo Daimao, General Blue, Arale, etc.
I doubt that, even thought they have a few models, most Dragon Ball characters don't fly. And every battle in Heroes is on air. I'm sure this is why we didn't get Chi Chi and Yajirobe.

Was thinking a bit about combination cards and I realized something, whilst I understand Hyper Mega Rilld being a separate character, he should be a combination of Super Σ and General Rilld cards.
And I always thought that Buu Tenshinhan and Yamcha absorbed couldn't be done because it deals with combining three characters, but that could be solved by simply having Buu Yamhan absorbed.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:20 pm

They've thrown surprises at us that we haven't expected before, so I wouldn't rule anything out. I'd say there is at least a possibility of them moving on to Dragon Ball after GT, and then just updating the battlefield to be ground based like it was in the arcade games before Heroes.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:48 am

In addition to some inevitable new Trunks TV special cards, GM6 is confirmed to also feature characters from the Bardock TV special. The theme seems to be Saiyans vs Freeza's organization (including a little tug-o-war mini-game aspect to the missions), and nothing has been shown about what the GT side of the set will be. Perhaps they're having a brief intermission before heading into Super 17?

Confirmed new characters to be introduced with the set so far: Gohan (Future), SS Gohan (Future), Trunks (Future), SS Trunks (Future), Oozaru King Vegeta, Toma, Selypa, Totepo, Panbukin, Kyui

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by NeoKING » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:05 am

A Galactic War Ensues!!!!

The Saiyan Race vs. Freeza's Army Saga Begins

DRAGON BALL HEROES GALAXY MISSION 6

Which Allegiance Will You Fight For?!

The Debut of A New Battle System!

The Saiyan Overthrow Mission and The Freeza Army Overthrow Mission

The Ohzaru Awaken! Partake In The Giant Campaign!

THE SAIYAN RACE'S ULTIMATE POWER HAS BEEN SET FREE!

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All in all, this the theme for this set takes it back to the Freeza saga, and even further back to Bardock's time. The Saiyans have put up with Freeza's shit long enought. Gotta say though, there's some awesome imagery going on in the art, there. What with the space battles going on between the Saiyans and Freeza's ship.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:47 am

Yeah, I'm digging the art myself.

This apparent change in theme from the previous half movie and half GT sets has me curious to what is going to be done with the secret rare. We already got Oozaru King Vegeta in the new mini campaign set, but he's not really new since we had him in the Sparking! series. Could we be getting a lot of other, new Oozaru characters for both our old and newly introduced tailed Saiyans this set instead of a proper transformation/character like we have usually gotten every other set before? Or will we still stick to GM tradition and get someone to go along with the theme? (SS Tullece? SS King Vegeta? 5th Form Freeza? another transformation for Chilled or Cold?) Or will they disregard the set's theme like they did back before the Galaxy Missions were released, like when they gave us SS3 Vegeta during Freeza? (Perhaps they'll stick with our normal list of suspects, like SS Pan, SS3 GT Vegeta, etc.) I think I get more fun out of the speculation than I do the character when they're actually revealed. =P

You know, it's weird though. I brought up pretty much this exact same concept as an idea for a console game in March.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:51 am

Ahah! Fuck yeah called it! Nice to see some love for the Saiyans!

Edit: Dude! I just noticed Kyui there as well, you can see him on the second image. It took me a while to notice him due to the fact that I was more concentrated in the Saiyans and my brain wasn't realizing it that he hasn't been covered by this game yet.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:31 am

I wonder what if characters will they add? My lucky guess that it will be either be SSj King Vegeta or SSj Selypa.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:40 am

DNA wrote:Dude! I just noticed Kyui there as well, you can see him on the second image. It took me a while to notice him due to the fact that I was more concentrated in the Saiyans and my brain wasn't realizing it that he hasn't been covered by this game yet.

By the way TheDevilsCorpse, can it be time for a wallpaper again? I think the site went back to what it had previously and you did say you deleted the image you had...
Hmm. I just wrote it off as Ginyu without paying too much attention to it. But I'll cut myself some slack since the site always updates when I should have already been sleeping for hours. lol

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If we get her before Pan, I'll be pissed.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:05 pm

I would like to see transformation forms for King Cold. If Freeza does get a 5th form then I hope his form is not a lame palette swap of Coola's 5th form.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:55 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Hmm. I just wrote it off as Ginyu without paying too much attention to it. But I'll cut myself some slack since the site always updates when I should have already been sleeping for hours.
Lol, Japan Tiem.

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Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder what if characters will they add? My lucky guess that it will be either be SSj King Vegeta or SSj Selypa.
If we get her before Pan, I'll be pissed.
Ugh, as would I.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by hulkty » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:22 pm

LOL King Vegeta had the mustache as an oozaru still.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:28 pm

hulkty wrote:LOL King Vegeta had the mustache as an oozaru still.
He had in Sparking! METEOR but not when he was shown in said form in the TV series. So "officially", going by the TV series over the games, Ozarus do not keep facial hair.
But I do love how his cape also grows somehow. I can swallow the explanation for the armour and the undergarments, but the cape? C'mon...

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