They aren't "proper" transformations, but still transformations nonetheless, as their bodies do undergo various changes.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:No, they are variant to the Super Saiyan.
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They are referred as transformations in the manga/anime, guidebooks, and video games.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:No, they are variant to the Super Saiyan.hleV wrote:They're referred to as transformations.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Just like Grade 2 and 3 are not transformation.
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JeffJarrett wrote:Not if it's one or two years after the end of Boo. Everyone is speculating the movie is set three of five years after, but it was never said how many years after the end of the Boo Saga it was set. I still think it's only a few months after (or before) the JSAT special.soulnova wrote:Actually, this movie shouldn't be the last time they meet up, 5 years before the End of Z, otherwise Bulma should be round and pregnant ready to give birth to Bra, or already with infant Bra in arms. I do believe this could be just before that: 4 years after Buu, 6 years before the End of Z. This is why I'm crossing fingers that Bulma is going to give Vegeta the news that they'll have a new bundle of joy during the party + Videl/Gohan announce they are getting married.
Actually, Herms already translated part of the time reference:
JSAT was 2 years after Boo. "Several years" seems more than 2.Several years after the titanic battle with Majin Boo that determined the fate of the entire universe, the Earth was at peace, but now faces a new danger…
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Maybe "Several years" seems more than 2 years, but 2 years are actually several years.
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Agreed, though I'm still thinking it has to be no more than 4 or 5 years after Boo's defeat, since neither Pan nor Bra are taken into consideration here. Not really sure I'd call 4 or 5 'several' years either, but...it is what it is.soulnova wrote:Actually, Herms already translated part of the time reference:
JSAT was 2 years after Boo. "Several years" seems more than 2.Several years after the titanic battle with Majin Boo that determined the fate of the entire universe, the Earth was at peace, but now faces a new danger…
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What I meant is that it has never been said how many years, they just say several years.soulnova wrote:Actually, Herms already translated part of the time reference:
Several years after the titanic battle with Majin Boo that determined the fate of the entire universe, the Earth was at peace, but now faces a new danger…
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By definition, "several" means more than two.JeffJarrett wrote:What I meant is that it has never been said how many years, they just say several years.
sev·er·al (adj): Not many, but more than two.
So three would be the minimum.
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This whole "transformations" thing is an argument of semantics. What is and isn't considered a transformation when it comes to Dragon Ball is all pretty arbitrary, much like the naming of Super Saiyan 4. We create distinctions for our own benefit, but if you go by real life definitions, a lot of things in Dragon Ball are transformations.
"Several" is a pretty vague term, but it's generally used when there are more than two.JeffJarrett wrote:Maybe "Several years" seems more than 2 years, but 2 years are actually several years.
sev·er·al
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Videl's hair (and possibly Kuririn's too) is kind of the biggest indication to me that it's post-"Ossu!"; I mean, with Yamcha you can argue that "oh he grew it out and then cut it again", but Videl's hair near-matches her end of Z cut (where in "Ossu!" she's still got her Buu arc haircut). With short hair, it's kind of different.
Actually, Yamcha's hair is long at the end of Z now that I think about it; it was pulled into a long ponytail if I remember right.
Even though I know connections between any of the specials are relative, I really hope they carry over from the Jump 08 special's Goku's boredom-induced hobby of entertaining himself by messing with Vegeta. I adored that. It was like watching Vegeta's quest for attention from his kingdom backfire gloriously on him. I mean, this would obviously be something that would happen before the threatening part of the plot goes down, but I'd still really like to see it.
Actually, Yamcha's hair is long at the end of Z now that I think about it; it was pulled into a long ponytail if I remember right.
Even though I know connections between any of the specials are relative, I really hope they carry over from the Jump 08 special's Goku's boredom-induced hobby of entertaining himself by messing with Vegeta. I adored that. It was like watching Vegeta's quest for attention from his kingdom backfire gloriously on him. I mean, this would obviously be something that would happen before the threatening part of the plot goes down, but I'd still really like to see it.
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Do not forger that this is being translated from japanese.Bussani wrote:"Several" is a pretty vague term, but it's generally used when there are more than two.JeffJarrett wrote:Maybe "Several years" seems more than 2 years, but 2 years are actually several years.
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Yes, Japanese has several ways and words to count different things. It makes my mind implode. Maybe Herms can gives us some insight in the word that was used on that text.
Anyway, my prediction is that it could be 3-4 years AB (after Buu).
Age 777 (3 years AB) - Trunks would be 11 and Goten 10. That would be as far as I would push it visual wise... because they still look "small". Do you think they would pick this date because of the "777"? o_O
Age 778 (4 years AB) - This is the one year that has all the amazing potential with Bulma pregnant of Bra and her birth + Gohan and Videl's wedding.
Anyway, my prediction is that it could be 3-4 years AB (after Buu).
Age 777 (3 years AB) - Trunks would be 11 and Goten 10. That would be as far as I would push it visual wise... because they still look "small". Do you think they would pick this date because of the "777"? o_O
Age 778 (4 years AB) - This is the one year that has all the amazing potential with Bulma pregnant of Bra and her birth + Gohan and Videl's wedding.
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It looks like a pair of panties to me.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm liking the Shenlong statue. I can't help but wonder what that white thing on the ground before him is though...hmm.
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That would be hilariously awesome.ricecake wrote:It looks like a pair of panties to me.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm liking the Shenlong statue. I can't help but wonder what that white thing on the ground before him is though...hmm.
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Oh God, it is.ricecake wrote:It looks like a pair of panties to me.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm liking the Shenlong statue. I can't help but wonder what that white thing on the ground before him is though...hmm.
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Several years can be around 6 - 8 years ago. When someone is talking about something from several years ago then I often think around 2004 - 2006.JeffJarrett wrote:Maybe "Several years" seems more than 2 years, but 2 years are actually several years.
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Toei's got the "Goku with Kinto'un pen" and "possibly-glows-Shenlong statue" on the movie's news page now. http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/movie/2013_d ... ws/04.html
Kind of wish I'd seen that first on the movie site and not elsewhere, because when I saw there was a news update I briefly hoped it would be related to the movie's plot (only to have my hopes dashed pretty quickly).
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If there's no official year given, I'm sticking with 3 years after Boo, or Age 777. It fits well without any continuity errors, like any pregnancies, marriages or Trunks' physique, which should be getting closer to this soon.

This version of Trunks was 12, right?

This version of Trunks was 12, right?
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14, actually. I guess that leaves a little wriggle-room, but three or four years seems good to me.Insertclevername wrote:
This version of Trunks was 12, right?
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Trunks was 7 at time of Boo arc so he would change very little in 3 years' time.
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I wasn't saying he should look different by now, just now he should be getting closer to puberty and such.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Trunks was 7 at time of Boo arc so he would change very little in 3 years' time.
Though, Bussani pointed out that it was actually 14 instead of 12, so I guess they could have more breathing room with the timeline, I suppose.
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