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ChiChi would snap Videl over her leg effortlessly.
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Videl would destroy Chi-Chi. Out of the humans, she'd assuredly be stronger than all save for Kuririn and a properly trained Oob.dbzfan7 wrote:Videl vs Chi Chi
If only the fight actually happened. I would think Toriyama would have fun with that idea.
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I don't think Videl is that strong, I mean, definitely not stronger than Tenshinhan, Yamucha or Roshi. I think Chi Chi would win easily.
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Well, she's stronger than her father, who is certainly stronger than Tenshinhan.Insertclevername wrote:I don't think Videl is that strong, I mean, definitely not stronger than Tenshinhan, Yamucha or Roshi. I think Chi Chi would win easily.
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I hope you're joking. I know we aren't supposed to post like this, but if you're serious, then you are wrong. Hercules greatest feats were ripping three phonebooks in half and pulling a bus. Tenshinhan has the power to destroy cities and level mountains at the very least if you're one of those people that believe him and the other humans remained weak.Saiga wrote:Well, she's stronger than her father, who is certainly stronger than Tenshinhan.Insertclevername wrote:I don't think Videl is that strong, I mean, definitely not stronger than Tenshinhan, Yamucha or Roshi. I think Chi Chi would win easily.
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I think Gotenks Boo winsStrife1 wrote:I hope you're joking. I know we aren't supposed to post like this, but if you're serious, then you are wrong. Hercules greatest feats were ripping three phonebooks in half and pulling a bus. Tenshinhan has the power to destroy cities and level mountains at the very least if you're one of those people that believe him and the other humans remained weak.Saiga wrote:Well, she's stronger than her father, who is certainly stronger than Tenshinhan.Insertclevername wrote:I don't think Videl is that strong, I mean, definitely not stronger than Tenshinhan, Yamucha or Roshi. I think Chi Chi would win easily.
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@Strife those "feats" were anime filler. The fact that Goku chose to fuse with Satan over the unconscious Tenshinhan proves that Satan is stronger, at least.
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Tenshinhan was unconscious. I don't think he can fuse with someone unconscious.Saiga wrote:@Strife those "feats" were anime filler. The fact that Goku chose to fuse with Satan over the unconscious Tenshinhan proves that Satan is stronger, at least.
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You automatically fuse with someone when the earrings are put on, since race or gender isn't a problem I don't think a physical state like unconsciousness would either.dbzfan7 wrote:Tenshinhan was unconscious. I don't think he can fuse with someone unconscious.Saiga wrote:@Strife those "feats" were anime filler. The fact that Goku chose to fuse with Satan over the unconscious Tenshinhan proves that Satan is stronger, at least.
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I think it does matter. Nothing outright says being unconscious would still work. Mr. Satan isn't even nearly as fast or strong as any of the z warriors. He doesn't even compare to Yamcha. Mr. Satan embarrasses himself in front of everyone. If he were even near Yamcha they wouldn't think he was so pathetic. Mr. Satan can't even catch a bullet. Mr. Satan can't destroy the moon or even move so fast that humans can't see him. Any member of the Z-fighters can do that. Mr. Satan can't even beat Tao Pai Pai or Daimao. Tenshinhan or any member of the Z-fighters far surpass Tao Pai Pai and Daimao. Goku at the beginning of Dragonball would defeat Mr. Satan. Mr. Satan has never fought a super being and won.Saiga wrote:You automatically fuse with someone when the earrings are put on, since race or gender isn't a problem I don't think a physical state like unconsciousness would either.dbzfan7 wrote:Tenshinhan was unconscious. I don't think he can fuse with someone unconscious.Saiga wrote:@Strife those "feats" were anime filler. The fact that Goku chose to fuse with Satan over the unconscious Tenshinhan proves that Satan is stronger, at least.
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But it doesn't say it wouldn't work either, and unlike the fusion dance there are absolutely no limitations given. Satan only embarrassed himself by going up against Cell and Kid Trunks, two fighters who would easily do the same to any of the humans. Except the other humans wouldn't survive either of those hits.dbzfan7 wrote:
I think it does matter. Nothing outright says being unconscious would still work. Mr. Satan isn't even nearly as fast or strong as any of the z warriors. He doesn't even compare to Yamcha. Mr. Satan embarrasses himself in front of everyone, if he were even near Yamcha they wouldn't think he was so pathetic.
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He also can't survive or catch bullets, destroy moons, or move faster then the human eye can see. Goku at the beginning of dragonball would beat him. He can't possibly defeat Tao Pai Pai or Daimao. One little scene doesn't change the fact that nothing Satan has ever done puts him above Tenshinhan, Yamcha, or even Chaozu. He isn't stronger then Muten Roshi, he isn't stronger then Chi Chi, he isn't stronger then Ox King, he isn't stronger then Grampa Gohan. He probably couldn't beat Baba's fighters. He can't survive an axe hitting him on the head. He hasn't done anything that the Z-fighter's can't do and more. He ain't stronger then Raditz or a Saibaman.Saiga wrote:But it doesn't say it wouldn't work either, and unlike the fusion dance there are absolutely no limitations given. Satan only embarrassed himself by going up against Cell and Kid Trunks, two fighters who would easily do the same to any of the humans. Except the other humans wouldn't survive either of those hits.dbzfan7 wrote:
I think it does matter. Nothing outright says being unconscious would still work. Mr. Satan isn't even nearly as fast or strong as any of the z warriors. He doesn't even compare to Yamcha. Mr. Satan embarrasses himself in front of everyone, if he were even near Yamcha they wouldn't think he was so pathetic.
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Kuririn and Roshi are hurt by Lunch's machine gun. Just because Goku survived a bullet doesn't mean that everyone of his power level and up can survive every kind of bullet. And of course Satan can't destroy moons, he can't use ki. None of the other characters are shown destroying moons with their raw strength or anything. Everything else you've said is entirely presumptuous.dbzfan7 wrote:
He also can't survive or catch bullets, destroy moons, or move faster then the human eye can see. Goku at the beginning of dragonball would beat him. He can't possibly defeat Tao Pai Pai or Daimao. One little scene doesn't change the fact that nothing Satan has ever done puts him above Tenshinhan, Yamcha, or even Chaozu. He isn't stronger then Muten Roshi, he isn't stronger then Chi Chi, he isn't stronger then Ox King, he isn't stronger then Grampa Gohan. He probably couldn't beat Baba's fighters. He can't survive an axe hitting him on the head. He hasn't done anything that the Z-fighter's can't do and more. He ain't stronger then Raditz or a Saibaman.
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Satan can't even survive one bullet, one bullet can kill him. That alone puts him below everyone. Any character with a power level above Muten Roshi and can use ki can destroy a moon.Saiga wrote:Kuririn and Roshi are hurt by Lunch's machine gun. Just because Goku survived a bullet doesn't mean that everyone of his power level and up can survive every kind of bullet. And of course Satan can't destroy moons, he can't use ki. None of the other characters are shown destroying moons with their raw strength or anything. Everything else you've said is entirely presumptuous.dbzfan7 wrote:
He also can't survive or catch bullets, destroy moons, or move faster then the human eye can see. Goku at the beginning of dragonball would beat him. He can't possibly defeat Tao Pai Pai or Daimao. One little scene doesn't change the fact that nothing Satan has ever done puts him above Tenshinhan, Yamcha, or even Chaozu. He isn't stronger then Muten Roshi, he isn't stronger then Chi Chi, he isn't stronger then Ox King, he isn't stronger then Grampa Gohan. He probably couldn't beat Baba's fighters. He can't survive an axe hitting him on the head. He hasn't done anything that the Z-fighter's can't do and more. He ain't stronger then Raditz or a Saibaman.
Of course everyone around Goku's strength can survive a bullet. We see Kuririn and Roshi do it. Going by that logic Freeza is stronger then the androids because they never destroyed a planet. Your claims are absolutely ridiculous.
Mr. Satan can't beat anyone in Muten Roshi's league, fact. He can't throw a pillar that moves faster then a jet and jump high and fast enough to reach it. He has done absolutely nothing to be classified as stronger then Tenshinhan. Other then that one interpretation which can easily be classified as Tenshinhan is out cold, what else puts Mr. Satan above the rest of the Z-fighters. Bora could beat him down. How does he match Tenshinhan's speed or strength? He moves too slow and has no knowledge of ki. I can't tell if your trolling or something.
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Roshi is stronger than Goku yet is damaged more when he's shot by Lunch's machine gun. That alone shows you can't measure strength by bullet wounds.
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How was he damaged more? Strength can easily be determined by bullets when someone like Satan can't even survive one bullet. That means Roshi and Krillin can take that much more psi then Mr. Satan. It's preposterous to even think Mr. Satan is anywhere near any of the Z-fighters when he is clearly weaker then them during Dragonball. He ain't even Super Human. You really are overestimating Mr. Satan if you think he is stronger then Tenshinhan or even Roshi.Saiga wrote:Roshi is stronger than Goku yet is damaged more when he's shot by Lunch's machine gun. That alone shows you can't measure strength by bullet wounds.
You really think Mr. Satan could beat Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo Jr(23rd tourney), Raditz, or a Saibaman?
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Because he was damaged at all, while Goku wasn't. Not every firearm is equal.dbzfan7 wrote:
How was he damaged more? Strength can easily be determined by bullets when someone like Satan can't even survive one bullet. That means Roshi and Krillin can take that much more psi then Mr. Satan. It's preposterous to even think Mr. Satan is anywhere near any of the Z-fighters when he is clearly weaker then them during Dragonball. He ain't even Super Human. You really are overestimating Mr. Satan if you think he is stronger then Tenshinhan or even Roshi.
The ones who could fly would be able to stay out of reach and avoid being hit, and a Saibaiman's acid might melt his flesh, but apart from that yes.You really think Mr. Satan could beat Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo Jr(23rd tourney), Raditz, or a Saibaman?
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Well no point in arguing with you then if you believe that. When you honestly believe that, then reason and logic already left. When nothing Mr. Satan has ever done or even suggested clearly puts him above any of the z-fighters and somehow you think he is. Logic left the building. I guess that guy wearing the SSJ t-shirt must be the creator of the universe too. I guess that the farmer wasn't using his Super Shot Gun to kill Raditz. I guess the androids are weaker then Freeza. Yajirobe only pretends to be cowardly and is actually the true strongest in the universe.Saiga wrote:Because he was damaged at all, while Goku wasn't. Not every firearm is equal.dbzfan7 wrote:
How was he damaged more? Strength can easily be determined by bullets when someone like Satan can't even survive one bullet. That means Roshi and Krillin can take that much more psi then Mr. Satan. It's preposterous to even think Mr. Satan is anywhere near any of the Z-fighters when he is clearly weaker then them during Dragonball. He ain't even Super Human. You really are overestimating Mr. Satan if you think he is stronger then Tenshinhan or even Roshi.
The ones who could fly would be able to stay out of reach and avoid being hit, and a Saibaiman's acid might melt his flesh, but apart from that yes.You really think Mr. Satan could beat Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo Jr(23rd tourney), Raditz, or a Saibaman?
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I agree Saiga about the bullets, but about Mr. Satan's strength... seriously? 
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Mr. Satan could barely destroy a pile of tiles, Goku could literally pulverize rocks with his finger. Neither could Satan jump dozens of meters or beat up dinossaurs like Goku.Saiga wrote:Roshi is stronger than Goku yet is damaged more when he's shot by Lunch's machine gun. That alone shows you can't measure strength by bullet wounds.




