Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Rukura » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:21 am

Still thinking the "???" part of the Story Mode is just either the Movies/TV Specials (check box art for Hirudegarn and Broli) or the new upcoming movie, as a tie-in to it.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Jord » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:38 pm

Don't know if this has been posted already but:

- includes a Scouter that lets you check your power meter
- this uses the 3DS’ camera to take a picture of your face
- scanning people with the Scouter nets players Zeni and items
- scan someone with a high power level and Great Ape Vegeta will appear as a boss fight
- tag up with friends to take him on

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:03 am

Why hasn't Namco Bandai just released that as a separate paid app on iOS/Android? It would probably be a good seller just for the novelty factor.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Xeogran » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:13 pm

Bills has been confirmed :)

This game is going to be awesome, i hope there will be a demo of it next month on the eShop.

And as soon as i'll receive the full version I'm going to record a lot of videos from it. Mostly containing my favorite characters, Broly SSJ3 and Hatchiyack :D

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:34 pm

The character roster is awesome. Too bad it's wasted in a Japan-only card game.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:43 pm

*Facepalm* The character roster is not awesome, it's extensive. And I really don't see the appeal in playing the game, you barely have any control over the characters, it's not like you can walk and punch and do combos. You just waggle and shit happens.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:49 pm

DNA wrote:*Facepalm* The character roster is not awesome, it's extensive.
Well, that's your opinion. I would love to have this roster in a fighting game.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:54 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DNA wrote:*Facepalm* The character roster is not awesome, it's extensive.
Well, that's your opinion. I would love to have this roster in a fighting game.
Well, maybe in a fighting game yeah, but I still say it's not awesome, it's extensive. What's so awesome about it? Would you ever play as Tobi? Or Kyui? Or Pui Pui? Maybe once to try them out and never again. Just the same as the Sparking series.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:00 pm

In Sparking! METEOR/Raging Blast 2/Ultimate Blast, I really like playing team battles, and make various combinations of teams based on their relation, like teaming up Freeza's underlings, the Artificial Humans, Super Saiyans, the Saiyan survivors, strongest movie villains, Freeza & family, etc. So, I guess I would play as them, or against them at some point.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:04 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:In Sparking! METEOR/Raging Blast 2/Ultimate Blast, I really like playing team battles, and make various combinations of teams based on their relation, like teaming up Freeza's underlings, the Artificial Humans, Super Saiyans, the Saiyan survivors, strongest movie villains, Freeza & family, etc. So, I guess I would play as them, or against them at some point.
At some point. The Sparking series barely is a fighting game. It's more like a brawler or something. Dragon Ball fighting games need to go back to their roots, when the games were simpler, the rosters were shorter and there was actual emphasis on the game play itself. You can play and replay them to this day. I can't say that about any of the games from the last decade apart from Super Dragon Ball Z. The only time I play those games is to check something out, like a move or a character or an outfit. I don't pick it up and play it at all because there is no real replay value at all.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:08 pm

I'd have to agree with DBZGTKOSDH on this one, it would be awesome because I love playing as the "pointless" characters like Kyui since it's not that often that we get the chance to do so. I never just pit random characters against each other for no apparent reason, I always make up at least a brief what-if concept in my head before the match, and sometimes I like letting the peon win. I'd totally pick Tobi and kick the shit out of SS Bardock and Chilled, and laugh my ass off while doing it. xD

If the games do eventually go back to a more traditional fighter with a dozen or so characters, I'll lose interest. :/
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Post by DNA » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:15 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:If the games do eventually go back to a more traditional fighter with a dozen or so characters, I'll lose interest. :/
This is exactly why Dragon Ball fans have an extremely bad reputation on fighting games communities. It's because of this that there's barely any good fighting games based on Dragon Ball.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:22 pm

DNA wrote:This is exactly why Dragon Ball fans have an extremely bad reputation on fighting games communities. It's because of this that there's barely any good fighting games based on Dragon Ball.
Don't really care about the fighting game communities. I get REALLY tired of playing when you only have the same 20 characters being put into games. It's boring. Especially in games that don't simulate the series. I don't want to play an RPG like Final Fantasy with DB skins. I don't want to play a traditional fighter like Tekken with DB skins. I want a game that emulates the action of the series properly, and Spike's games were the closest. They allowed me to recreate battles from the show and create my own from whatever little story I felt like concocting at the time, with an extremely wide variety of characters.
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Post by Sinestro » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:24 pm

That character roster looks awesome.

Wish I could play it. Or at least learn how to. :)

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:03 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Don't really care about the fighting game communities. I get REALLY tired of playing when you only have the same 20 characters being put into games. It's boring. Especially in games that don't simulate the series. I don't want to play an RPG like Final Fantasy with DB skins. I don't want to play a traditional fighter like Tekken with DB skins. I want a game that emulates the action of the series properly, and Spike's games were the closest. They allowed me to recreate battles from the show and create my own from whatever little story I felt like concocting at the time, with an extremely wide variety of characters.
Exactly my thoughts. :clap:
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:26 pm

But the result is very poor games in terms of gameplay and well, mostly everything else. Do you really feel satisfied with any of these games? They're just so poor.

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Post by Sinestro » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:48 pm

DNA wrote:But the result is very poor games in terms of gameplay and well, mostly everything else. Do you really feel satisfied with any of these games? They're just so poor.
I'm satisfied with both Budokai 3 and Sparking Meteor.

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Sinestro wrote:
DNA wrote:But the result is very poor games in terms of gameplay and well, mostly everything else. Do you really feel satisfied with any of these games? They're just so poor.
I'm satisfied with both Budokai 3 and Sparking Meteor.
I really don't get you guys. I mean, I've got those games, I find them okay games that could be much better, but they don't hold a candle to Super Dragon Ball Z for example, even if that game could use some minor improvements. That game has a rock solid gameplay, the same can't be said for any game on both Budokai or Sparking extended series (even when they decided to change the name to appear to be a new game even though it's the same shit with a different coating).

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Post by Saiga » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:19 pm

Super Dragon Ball Z was godawfully boring.

I used to one of the people wanting a deeper fighting system for the games, but now I don't really care as much (mainly thanks to SDBZ being terrible and not ever wanting that to be repeated). I'm more in the middle ground now. I don't want ridiculously large rosters like BT3 because I don't care about General Blue or Freeza Soldier, but I would like plenty of characters to choose from. 30 would be my minimum, and only if they were basing it on the manga alone with no movie characters. I don't think I'd want more than, say, 70. That's enough for me.

I'd be satisfied if they made the characters feel unique, rather than having them play all the same. Competitive play no longer interests me, there are plenty of games that do that better anyway. I'm more concerned about playing a game that feels like Dragon Ball Z.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Sinestro » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:36 pm

Saiga wrote:Super Dragon Ball Z was godawfully boring.
I feel the same. Got rid of it pretty fast an just stuck with the games I mentioned before.

This talk is making me wish Heroes was in the Budokai style. Although what I'm learning about these cards... intrigues me.

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