Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

[Onikage725]

I'm on board with most of that. I almost wish Toriyama had simply explained it better. On the one hand, we don't really see these uber powerful feats of raw strength. But then, we have Goku shattering chunks of mountain from the air pressure generated when he missed a punch while fighting Cell. Going off the Death Battle, which feat is more impressive? Building holding at SSJ4, or generating enough friction from a punch to level a mountain at SSJ1? Granted, Toriyama didn't draw the skyscraper scene...

[dbzfan7]

Does anyone want to see a Wiz vs Boomstick? The hilarity that could come from that.

[JP6GAMER]

Ben said they plan to do a Death Battle that is bigger than Son Goku vs Superman!
I can't think of something bigger than Goku vs Supe.

[dbzfan7]

Ben said they plan to do a Death Battle that is bigger than Son Goku vs Superman!
I can't think of something bigger than Goku vs Supe.

Wiz vs Boomstick would be bigger. Though they said they wouldn't do a battle royale since Ben said Goku, Supes, and Spawn would be at the top in the end. And considering Spawn can only be hurt by Godly weapons he wins.

[JP6GAMER]

I thought: could Spawn be killed by a Genki Dama?

[dbzfan7]

I thought: could Spawn be killed by a Genki Dama?

It's not a godly attack. It takes power from the life force of animals, people, tree's, and the sun. So no I doubt it.

[JP6GAMER]

But isn't it super effective against "evil"?

[Hellspawn28]

I remember Ben saying that he is considering Dan Hibiki vs. Mr. Satan. That would be a pretty funny match up, I do like to see some more anime related death battles. There are some obscure characters that I would like to see get a spot light in Death Battle for once.

As for Spawn, his powers can be really inconsistent. He is nearly impossible to kill and the best way to you could win by via knock out from what I can remember. I honestly stop caring about the comics in the past few years because I didnt like the new direction. Jim Downing is now Spawn and I don't remember him having any good feats.

[dbzfan7]

But isn't it super effective against "evil"?

True, but Spawn can regenerate, don't know the degree of it.

[JP6GAMER]

Dan Hibiki vs Mr. Satan would be hilarious!
I thought they could maybe reuse Goku for a future fight just to justify us ..but I don't know a good oponent...maybe Hulk?
But I think Hulk vs Broly is a better idea.

PS. Didn't know that Spawn is so similar to Superman!

[Chou Gohan]

That was a rather entertaining animation. Especially parts like the scene where ss3 Goku is supposed to be grabbing Supes by the foot, yet, if you look closely, you can see Goku is grabbing thin air and Supes appears to be spinning voluntarily on his own.

If that was supposed to be the Goku vs Superman comparison to end them all, then they failed miserably. There are many major and minor details which I've seen in past comparisons which they apparently didn't even think about. Just as a small example, look at the most obvious scenario-difference between the comparison of speeds, which anybody who took physics 101 would instantly recognize, yet it was not even mentioned. Superman's top speed is usually thought of as the speed he can go in space, and his trip to sun and back that they used as a reference is an example of just that. However, they forgot to factor in the fact that Goku was not flying through space when he traversed the serpent road, he was flying in a world where there are the major hindrances of gravity and air to get in the way. Goku also likely didn't fly at his max speed the entire way. He ate a senzu right as soon as he got back to Earth because he used up a lot of energy having to maintain the fastest steady speed he could the whole way. Take Goku from that point in time and have him travel the exact same distance through space (with a sturdy space suit if necessary) and he would cover that same distance way, way faster. And he wouldn't be tired at all. He'd just need to go as fast as possible right at the start, then he could take a nap while maintaining that speed.

I've always viewed Superman as the ultimate deus ex machina character that writers like to use and abuse. Superman can be god one day, and nothing the next... depending on conveniences. I kind of dislike the way that the mere thought of Superman being out there makes other characters and stories in the DC universe feel rather... pointless. With how overpowered Superman is sometimes portrayed as, well... Why does batman even have a job fighting criminals at all? Here's how it should go: a major breakout happens and all of Batman's enemies are on the loose. Why should batman waste his time? That breakout should not have even happened. If it was plotted, well, if thinking thoughts causes even the most microscopic of vibrations then Superman should hear their thoughts from the other side of the world and not allow it. It would only take him literally one second to get to that part of the world and not allow it. Well, maybe he was off the planet at the time (That shouldn't have stopped him, though. He can apparently hear things through space, too, even though that's physically impossible ). Well then, all Bats has to do is whisper, "Superman, give me a hand," and, seeing how vibrations in the air last a very long time while merely getting smaller, Superman would hear it as soon as he gets back to Earth and instantly figure out how long ago and from what location it came with his super brain, and he'd be there in one second. Then he'd use his super hearing and Xray vision to locate every criminal, knock them all out, and deliver them all back to jail all in under 1 minute. Superman just saved Batman a month of trouble. With Superman in the world, criminals should just be sitting in jail forever sulking at how hopeless it is for them to ever do anything wrong since they may as well be in a world where God himself is putting his hand out to stop every evil deed there could ever be.

[mysticboy]

Ben said they plan to do a Death Battle that is bigger than Son Goku vs Superman!
I can't think of something bigger than Goku vs Supe.

Gohan vs Superboy

[TheMightyOzaru]

Ben said they plan to do a Death Battle that is bigger than Son Goku vs Superman!
I can't think of something bigger than Goku vs Supe.

Gohan vs Superboy

I wouldn't consider that very epic. Especially since Superboy Prime is overpowered and stronger than Post Crisis Superman.

[mysticboy]

Ben said they plan to do a Death Battle that is bigger than Son Goku vs Superman!
I can't think of something bigger than Goku vs Supe.

Gohan vs Superboy

I wouldn't consider that very epic. Especially since Superboy Prime is overpowered and stronger than Post Crisis Superman.

Not Prime (God no). Just regular ass Conner Kent. lol

[GS7X7]

I'd really love to see Homer Simpson vs. Peter Griffin.



I was about to fuss that "Superman has had his ass kicked by people that are likes flies compared to Goku," but the whole "cardboard rule" probably explains that away.

[dario03]

Gohan vs Superboy wouldn't really be more epic than Goku vs Superman.

Ben said they plan to do a Death Battle that is bigger than Son Goku vs Superman!
I can't think of something bigger than Goku vs Supe.

Wiz vs Boomstick would be bigger. Though they said they wouldn't do a battle royale since Ben said Goku, Supes, and Spawn would be at the top in the end. And considering Spawn can only be hurt by Godly weapons he wins.

I still think Thor would be up there in a death battle royale and him and Raiden are Gods so maybe they could hurt spawn.

[dbzfan7]

I really like the design of SSJ4 they went with. The darker red color looks way more awesome then the dark pink fur. Kudos to Mr. Lange.

[Hellspawn28]

There other anime characters that they could do like Dante vs. Inuyasha. My friend wants to see Luffy vs. Popeye, but I think that could be one sided given how crazy toon force powers can be sometimes. I personally like the idea of Broli vs. The Hulk for a death battle. I think Hulk will likely end up winning due to having better strength feats.

[JP6GAMER]

I just imagined a fight between Broly and Hulk:
They would just yell at each other "HULK SMASH!!!!" and "KAKAROT?!?!"...
and then the planet goes Boom.

[CaBrPi]

There other anime characters that they could do like Dante vs. Inuyasha. My friend wants to see Luffy vs. Popeye, but I think that could be one sided given how crazy toon force powers can be sometimes. I personally like the idea of Broli vs. The Hulk for a death battle. I think Hulk will likely end up winning due to having better strength feats.

Dante, like FMA Dante? Could be interesting.

I'm not sure toon force would help Popeye against Luffy, considering blunt physical blows do nothing to him, though.

I'd stay the hell away from anything to do with Broly, though.