How do you feel about them completely killing off this fantastic transformation after the battle with Vegeta in the beginning of the series? It seems to have been replaced with Super Saiyan transformations. It was such a great and powerful transformation that I wish I could see Goku control it as an adult.
In GT it was nice but I don't consider it canon at all.
What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
Well you can only do so much with it. Same with Super Saiyan and so on. It doesn't help that the user practically turns into a hulk-like potato.
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
Toriyama said the tails became useless after they became Super Saiyans. The tails were not needed much since they can use more powers with SSj transformations.
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
It was biding its time until GT.
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
Goku already had Kaio-ken x10 to do the same job in Namek arc, and the Super Saiyan form in 5 times stronger than the Oozaru form, since Oozaru = base x10, while Super Saiyan = base x50.
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
Toriyama states the tail becomes inferior. GT semi-retcons this though.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
Ignoring the multipliers, I think it'd be much harder to write interesting fights with the Oozaru if they stuck around. They're big, and can't really get into hand-to-hand combat unless their opponents are equally big, but then it'd still look awkward... I think the novelty would wear off pretty quickly.
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Re: What happened to the Great Ape in Dragonball Z?
I don't like saying this, but, I think GT used it right to a good extent. Gokuu's out-of-control behaviour at first as Golden Ape; Bebi posing a new threat as Golden Ape, and then Vegeta possibly losing control or just initially doing so only to lead to a miraculous transformation to save the day against Shenlong.