What's with this music placement?

Gonstead · Post by **Gonstead** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:45 am

To me, it just feels really unfitting for the moment it's placed into.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgyWa_Z__KM

Anyone else feel this way?

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:17 am

This "unfitting" moment has been already discussed a number of times. I personally think this is not as extremely unfitting as some people claim. Calm music can occasionally fit desperate moments and make them "this is the end"-ish. I don't say M1420 perfectly works that way in the scene, but I do understand what Shigeru Miyashita wanted to do.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:59 am

Indeed. In fact, I'd argue the scene in question isn't apocalyptic enough for the track. It'd be a perfect fit for something like the scene where Freeza attempts to blow up Nameck at the beginning of his battle with SSJ Goku, and from the looks of it actually succeeds, however.

TheRed259 · Post by **TheRed259** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:10 am

This is nothing compared to the Dragon Ball Z Kai ( 1-98 ) Replacement Score .

InfernalVegito · Post by **InfernalVegito** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:45 pm

It is not unfitting for me in any way. I can see this piece being used in both a scene where doom is impending and hope is lost (like this one, showing that Cell is about to unleash his absolute power) and when the final nostalgic victory is about to come (Genkidama against Kid Boo).

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:02 pm

TheRed259 wrote:This is nothing compared to the Dragon Ball Z Kai ( 1-98 ) Replacement Score .

So true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOTlIvAJaEk

Insertclevername · Post by **Insertclevername** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:03 pm

kei17 wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:This is nothing compared to the Dragon Ball Z Kai ( 1-98 ) Replacement Score .
So true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOTlIvAJaEk

http://youtu.be/xOTlIvAJaEk?t=1m8s

I don't find this part to be out of place. I think it kind of makes the sacrifice more emotional.

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:03 pm

Insertclevername wrote:
kei17 wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:http://youtu.be/xOTlIvAJaEk?t=1m8s

I don't find this part to be out of place. I think it kind of makes the sacrifice more emotional.

The track fits the scene itself, but it should stop playing before Goku arrives at Kaio's planet and Cell begins yelling "kusooooo!!". Cursing with calm music feels really odd. Kai has so many "droning-on" moments like this, regardless of which version it is.

Silkman3003 · Post by **Silkman3003** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:44 pm

That was...horrible.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:09 pm

It's fitting for me, although with the English dub voices it's unsuitable and distracting.

If you want actual totally unfitting music placements, then go with DB Kai Replacement Soundtrack.

dbret12 · Post by **dbret12** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:32 am

My God. This is why I hate the replacement score in Kai. Kikuchi's music was fine in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z but the placement is terrible in Kai.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:44 am

kei17 wrote:This "unfitting" moment has been already discussed a number of times. I personally think this is not as extremely unfitting as some people claim. Calm music can occasionally fit desperate moments and make them "this is the end"-ish. I don't say M1420 perfectly works that way in the scene, but I do understand what Shigeru Miyashita wanted to do.

I've got to agree. Perhaps the editing could've been a bit tighter, but I've always loved how the scene transitions from that piece from the fourth movie it to the Genki-dama piece from the seventh film. I like to think that Miyashita was using the piece to contrast the prior's tone. In other words, the first piece represents how terrifying Cell's power is while the second represents the 'beauty' of the idea of a 'perfect strength'.

Gonstead · Post by **Gonstead** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:00 am

dbret12 wrote:My God. This is why I hate the replacement score in Kai. Kikuchi's music was fine in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z but the placement is terrible in Kai.

Except that this scene isnt a Kai scene, it's Z.

linkdude20002001 · Post by **linkdude20002001** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:10 am

Gotta love Gohan's theme being played for Piccolo's appearance... >_>

dbzfan7 · Post by **dbzfan7** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:23 am

I hate Kai's replacement track. It was poorly placed and made me almost ditch the show. If it weren't for the superior english dub I would have left it. The Japanese version suffered the most though.

TheRed259 · Post by **TheRed259** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:16 am

Similar occasion : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... wkI#t=216s

Gonstead · Post by **Gonstead** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:26 am

I actually like that track in that scene.

TheRed259 · Post by **TheRed259** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:34 am

In my opinion , it's too sad and it doesn't fit the scene .

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:29 am

TheRed259 wrote:Similar occasion : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... wkI#t=216s

I've never heard anyone complaining about that scene except for you. Though, I admit that the music placement for DBZ movie 9 is kind of odd compared to the other movies.

TheRed259 · Post by **TheRed259** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:44 am

kei17 wrote:I've never heard anyone complaining about that scene except for you. Though, I admit that the music placement for DBZ movie 9 is kind of odd compared to the other movies.

Really ? I do find it out of place .
Nevertheless , they could have avoided using the same track twice .

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