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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:34 pm

omegalucas wrote:Oh yeah, I remembered that we used to have a DBZ board game here in Portugal I think, and I think it used cards, and I'm pretty sure there were some "interesting" color schemes in these cards...
Gotta search for it in a forum I know...
Did we? I remember no such thing... And I would hardly class that as official.

Anyway, Kuririn, Gohan and Chi Chi are done. Majin Buu coming up next.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by omegalucas » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:31 pm

DNA wrote:
omegalucas wrote:Oh yeah, I remembered that we used to have a DBZ board game here in Portugal I think, and I think it used cards, and I'm pretty sure there were some "interesting" color schemes in these cards...
Gotta search for it in a forum I know...
Did we? I remember no such thing... And I would hardly class that as official.

Anyway, Kuririn, Gohan and Chi Chi are done. Majin Buu coming up next.
We had, but you're right, this thread is for official versions, these cards were made and published by Planet deAgostini (I think) so they don't exactly count as official.
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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:59 pm

Majin Buu, Maoji Vegeta and Piccolo Daimao are done. By the way, anyone can check all the pics I've been taking of the colours, they're at the link in my signature, I'm up to 300 pics so far.

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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:14 pm

DNA wrote:By the way, anyone can check all the pics I've been taking of the colours, they're at the link in my signature, I'm up to 300 pics so far.
And that's so handy! 8)

All those pictures, so easily accessible! And many are interesting.
Not to spoil anything for the next update - and who cares about surprises anyway? :roll: - but some pallette swaps are interesting in the fact that they create the illusion that it's actually a whole other outfit (young Trunks wearing the Son gi).

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:12 pm

Cold Skin wrote:Not to spoil anything for the next update - and who cares about surprises anyway? :roll: - but some pallette swaps are interesting in the fact that they create the illusion that it's actually a whole other outfit (young Trunks wearing the Son gi).
Well there are many people in the games wearing Son's gi, or gi's coloured like Son's :P Uub and Piccolo for example :D
And yeah, it's not spoiling, like I said, they're readily available in my folder so anyone can go check, and everyone knows you'll eventually add all that into your project so that's it.

I'm done with Videl, will take pictures in a moment. Mecha Freeza is all that's left. I'm going to enjoy all his upgrades <3

I might go for the old games afterwards, like the arcade ones. Do you want to cover the old NES games too? Some characters were rehashed with different colourings... I know Gaiden had a few recolours for the Ghost Warrior versions of Freeza, Coola, Slug and Tullece, plus there's all the different Saibaimen.

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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:31 pm

Yeah, NES versions could be interesting too! 8)
Just stop whenever you start being fed up with it! (you've already done much more than what most people would have endured) :)

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Post by Cold Skin » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:01 pm

I solved the Photobucket uploading problem (Java and Mozilla kept clashing apparently).
Essentially I had to go to the new version to have a new way to upload the pictures.

Another update's coming today or tomorrow (depending on whether my guests leave late or not tonight).

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by Cold Skin » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:18 pm

UPDATE: CELL JR. / COOLER / JACKIE CHUN / SAIBAIMAN / TRUNKS
CORRECTED: Kaio's versions have been put in the right order (Daizenshuu/Original manga run, THEN Kanzenban).


Now that I can upload again, updates are back, with at least one update every week now.

CELL JR.:

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1) Anime / Manga version.
2) Super Butoden 2 version. For the alternative costume in this game, Cell Jr. is green like his dad. It's not the same shade of green though, since his green is closer to turquoise than to yellow.
3) Budokai What-If version. In this game, Cell has a nightmare about absorbing Krilin by accident. This turns him into an alternative costume for Cell Jr. No more Freezer features on his face, his skin has turned pinkish while his body has become dark orange with purple "armor". He noticeably has some Krilin features, such as the Kame Sen emblem, the dots on his head or his lack of nose.
4) Budokai 3 version. For the alternative appearance in this game, we have a red Cell Jr., with green articulations and green cheek lines as well. Note that the "armor" still has a bluish hint.

COOLER:

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1) Anime version.
2) Budokai 3 version. An alternative costume for this video game. The lower layers of armor are grey/white (losing the overall blue/green tint of the original), while the most proeminent layers of armor are red. That contrast between the various layers of armor brings an interesting style to this version.

JACKIE CHUN:

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1) Anime version.
2) Daizenshuu 10 & 11 version. This version wears faded purple.
3) Kanzenban version. The outfit has an indigo tint.

SAIBAIMAN:

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1) Anime version.
2) Budokai 3 version. A red Saibaiman for the alternative skin of this game.

TRUNKS:

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1+2) Anime version.
3+4) Kanzenban version N°1. Trunks appears as such on the Kanzenban (although he appears later on a back cover with an outfit closer to the one we've known, the fact that Goten doesn't wear under-clothes seems to indicate this later picture is an alternative take on them, the most important version being the front cover with everyone else). He sports the same color as his dad, which can seem black unless you look closer (zoom in on the cover and compare with Krilin's black T-shirt, and you'll spot the hint of blue that is there). His belt is still orange, but so dark that it could almost be confused with red (it's more red than Goten's orange outfit, but more orange than Trunks' newly red writsts). The hair are the same than his Alternative Future self, meaning dark indigo now.
5+6) Budokai Tenkaichi 3 version. "My son wears my rival's colors?! Vegeta's almighty rage!!" could have been the title of that game's alternative appearance. A clever pallette swap makes it look like Trunks is wearing the Sons' gi, or more generally the Kame Sen outfit. Due to the red tint, it is obviously the anime version of that costume. The hair is a bit more purple, but the difference is not that big as you can see.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:39 am

Great work as always I see if I can get you some Saibaimen sprites from the early games, there's a whole rainbow of colours.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:54 pm

Okay so I'm done with Super DBZ and I've sent Cold Skin sprite sheets from Attack of the Saiyans. There are a bunch of characters that are basically ones we already know but at the same time are treated like random monsters, like Mummy-kun and Dracula Man for example. Should we decide as a community if they deserve to be treated as recolours or not? I'm a bit ambiguous about them, the only ones I'm okay with are the Saibaiman recolours.

In other news, huge load of pics today, 80+ new ones on the Dropbox folder. Covered DBZ and DBZ 2 Super Battle from the Arcade, Super Butoden 1,2 and 3 from SNES, Hyper Dimension also from SNES, Buyu Retsuden from Genesis and Advanced Adventure from the GBA. Enjoy!

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by CaBrPi » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:41 pm

I'd include them for completeness's sake, personally.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:04 pm

Pay close attention to small details, I've noticed that in Super Butouden 20 has different coloured earings, 18 changes skin tone, Goku and Gohan have a darker shade of eye colour whilst on Super Saiyan and Freeza's lips also change colours.
In Super Battle, 18 changes eye colours to match her clothing.

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Post by Cold Skin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:27 pm

Thanks for the warning, those little details are the kind of things I can easily miss. :thumbup:

I agree with CaBrPi, the recolors for characters treated as normal enemies should be included too, since they're still official recolors of characters, no matter what those alternative versions are used for. 8)

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Post by Attitudefan » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:50 pm

You forgot Tao Pai-Pai's secondary outfit in the third Dragonball movie, Mystical Adventure:

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you also forgot his limited colour palette version:

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Post by hleV » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:03 am

Do limited palette colors even matter? That is, when the characters are colored using full color palette somewhere else (but with same clothes, etc.).

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Post by DNA » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:34 pm

Attitudefan wrote:You forgot Tao Pai-Pai's secondary outfit in the third Dragonball movie, Mystical Adventure
That's a completely different outfit, not a re-colouration.
hleV wrote:Do limited palette colors even matter? That is, when the characters are colored using full color palette somewhere else (but with same clothes, etc.).
If they are different enough, then yes, they do count, as shown in the few examples already done. So far there has been some consideration and a rudimentary 'voting' put into it before they are chosen as relevant or not.

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Post by Attitudefan » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:24 pm

Tao's Movie attire is extremely different than his anime/manga counterpart.
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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by Cold Skin » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:47 pm

UPDATE: C-17 / CELL / CHICHI / GARLIC JUNIOR / NYOÏ BO / SON GOHAN

MINOR CORRECTIONS:

- "Jr." has been replaced to "Junior" for "Cell Junior" and "Garlic Junior", to match the official way to write it here - and it doesn't hurt writing it all so that it stands out more visually, especially when having to distinguish Cell and his son(s).
- Switched the order for "Nyoï Bo" so that the Kanzenban version is now featured after versions from the original manga run.
- To keep only one name of version (except for Anime / Manga), the "Nyoï Bo"'s fifth version was changed to mention Dragon Ball Online in the description instead of having both the Kanzenban and Dragon Ball Online mentionned as a name. Mentionning the first appearance as the version's main name and keeping other appearances apart at the end of the description will likely become a constant in the future.


Of particular interest is the case of Chapter 1's Nyoï Bo. Check it out below to see how Toriyama's inconsistancy in color schemes happened perhaps even more often than you noticed! :wink:

C-17:

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1) Anime / Manga version.
2) Super Dragon Ball Z version. An alternative costume for this video game, one that definately gives a whole other feel to that character, a more feminine side (especially combined with the mid-long hair).

CELL:

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1) Anime version.
2) Manga / Kanzenban version. Cell's junctions and articulations on his body (like the "belt") are most often blue, as opposed to purple in the anime. Cell keeps his red eyes for his Perfect Form.
3) Super Butoden & Super Butoden 2 version. The alternative outfit for those Super NES video games will display a turquoise shade instead of the regular green.
4) Hyper Dimension version. The alternative appearance from this Super NES video game shows Cell being grey.
5) Budokai version. The alternative costume for this game has Cell being blue, with purple articulations, and the yellow surrounding of his face has gone dark blue.
6) Super Dragon Ball Z version. A video game alternative appearance showing a white Cell with purple articulations, his armor and crystals being black. With that, Cell is ready for secret operations in the middle of snowfields!

CHICHI:

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1) Anime version.
2) Daizenshuu 65 version. This version appears on one tiny Toriyama artwork for a calendar (characters showing the numbers associated with months). The helmet and shoulder pads are blue, with the main outfit being black, and all lines being orange.
3) Super Dragon Ball Z version. That alternative costume for a video game shows the main clothes as being all black, and the accessories such as the helmet and the gloves are blue, with optionnal white outlines.

GARLIC JUNIOR:

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1) Anime version.
2) Tenkaichi Budokai version N°1. There is no version of this game being the exact replica of the anime version. This one wears a white belt, and has more of a dark blue tint, although it can be quite subtle.
3) Tenkaichi Budokai version N°2. Like the first outfit for this game, there is a white belt, and this time the tint tends more towards the green side, making his skin somewhat turquoise.

NYOÏ BO:

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1) Anime version.
2) Chapter 1 version. This is quite exceptionnal, but if Toriyama is known for changing color schemes between chapters or when going from full pallette to limited pallette, this change happens right in the middle of the full color section of the very first chapter. The three first panels showing the Nyoï Bo reveal that it's white with a red scabbard and a white rope. Turning the page, and still in the full color section, the Nyoï Bo turns into it's Daizenshuu 5 version.
3) Daizenshuu 2 version. The scabbard is blue for this Toriyama artwork.
4) Daizenshuu 5 version. Orange scabbard this time, still in a Toriyama artwork.
5) Kanzenban version N°1. The first cover of the Kanzenban edition clearly shows this brown color, for a scabbard clearly made of wood! It is also used in Dragon Ball Online, but with Goku's original blue outfit (as opposed to the first Kanzenban cover). This version is used in the game Dragon Ball Online.

SON GOHAN:

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1+2) Anime version.
3+4) Manga version. Toriyama still had Gohan wearing blue wrists like Goku. Gohan wears white socks, on the contrary of the anime.
5+6) Daizenshuu 199 version. Just for the duration of a title page for chapter 411. This time, Piccolo made Gohan's outfit blue like his wrists.
7+8) Kanzenban version. For all his Piccolo-based outfit, Toriyama used to draw him almost exclusively with a red belt, but blue wrists. Since the Kanzenban, it's all red, possibly to mimic Piccolo's natural red wrists. Gohan still has white socks though, unlike his anime equivalent.
9+10) Super Butoden 2 version. The alternative outfit for this Super NES video game has Gohan wearing purple that is so darkened and desaturated that it kinda looks like brown. The belt and wrists are blue like in the anime (while the regular outfit for the same game shows a red belt and blue wrists like the regular manga version).
11+12) Super Dragon Ball Z version. This video game can turn Gohan's Cell Game clothes into Goku's gi through a simple color switch. Note that one of the pictures here shows what it would be like with Gohan wearing Piccolo's cape at the same time, but he doesn't wear the cape in-game.
13+14) Burst Limit version. The alternative outfit for this game shows a turquoise oufit with red-with-a-subtle-hint-of-purple wrists and belt.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:15 pm

Ahah, great update :D
I wouldn't say 17 looks feminine, he looks like a douche who hangs at malls all the time on his phone.

I retook many pictures for Budokai 3 and am retaking the ones from Sparking Meteor. Everything has been re-tagged as well. Soon I'll have Budokai 2, Sparking Neo and Infinite World as well. In the mean time I will start with Supersonic Warriors very soon.

As usual, anyone interested can check my signature. I've sent it to Iced in case he wants to make palette swaps for Batlhazar's characters. Goku has so many official colours already that it's silly. Love those arcade colours.

Edit:
Supersonic Warriors done. Notice that 18's eyes and earrings change colour again.
More photos of Sparking Meteor, now with the normal palette for easy comparison. Notice how Cui, Ginew, Jeese, Butta and Broli change skin tones slightly. And it turns out Great Saiyaman II actually has 2 alternate palette swaps, good thing I rechecked everything.
And more Goku palette swaps. Also please make a note of Broli Super Saiyan ever changing hair colour.

Edit 2:
Forgot to mention, even though Gohan does not appear with the cape and Goku colours in Super DBZ, he does so in Z2 Super Battle:
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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by Cold Skin » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:11 pm

Thanks for all the remarks! 8)
I will add that note about Gohan's cape with Goku's gi, but first I'll have to check out which games came first (I guess the version's name should be the first game which had that version available, with the subsequent games being mentionned at the end of the description).

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