"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:28 pm

DNA wrote:In my opinion it's a pretty pointless age to cover.
He is exactly the same character, with exactly the same age, power, and techniques, and even his outfit is similar. It's just so incredibly stupid.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:32 pm

Yeah, I don't really see the point of using the Trunks from the latter half of the TV special as a character separate from the Trunks that defeated Freeza. That'd be better for another skin.

Speaking of which, I wonder if Birusu and Uisu will be getting alternate skins?
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:35 pm

Definitely pointless. Sad thing is, the original Future Trunks already used those clothes as an alternate "costume", at least with the art on the card (Don't remember if it changed in game).
JulieYBM wrote:Speaking of which, I wonder if Birusu and Uisu will be getting alternate skins?
Doubtful if there isn't a prominent alternate costume in the movie itself, because not all characters do. Chaozu has had like 5 different outfits on the card art, but I think he always uses the same model...
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ankhael » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:46 am

Hey guys heres a good "what if" story of Future Trunks

After the defeat of the Androids and Future Cell, Future Trunks trains very hard and prepares to enter the World Martial Arts Tournament. He meets Future Kibito and the Future Supreme Kai, who inform him of Future Babidi's plan to resurrect Future Majin Buu, with the help of his henchman, Future Dabura. Kibito then approaches Trunks and asked him to transform, Trunks proves Kibito theory on him being a super saiyan by powering up. Kibito is surprise at Trunks power mass and realize that Trunks is the only hope for the universe salvation upon the upcoming Majin Buu destruction. Dubura steal Trunks energy and aid it to Majin Buu resurrection with his master Babidi. Kibito and the Supreme Kai restores Trunks, and now that Majin Buu's awakening is assured with a portion of earth's population, Trunks sets off to train with Kibito and Supreme Kai. Training under gravity, blood, sweat and ambition and with the help of Elder Kai and Supreme Kai Trunks was able to tap into a hidden power he never knew was sleeping within him. Now with his discovered new saiyan power, this young half blooded saiyan, son of the saiyan prince Vegeta is the only hope for his future and universe's survival.. Super Saiyan 3 Future Trunks..... They should make this out of a small anime like bardock when he became super saiyan.

Anyways I wanted share some screen shots of SS3 Trunks from heroes.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:10 am

Ankhael wrote:*fanfic and a bunch of images*
Your post has no reason to be in this topic. Please create a new one here: Fan-Created Works.
I do not need nor want to read your fanfic, especially when I'm waiting for updates of the game. Nor do I want to scroll down a bunch of images that have no reason to be posted in the first place, from a very old video that has been posted in this topic at least once or twice.

Edit: Actually tried to read your post and couldn't finish it. It's filled with typos and grammar errors and it honestly reads as something that just came out of Dragon Ball Wikia. I know it is your first post and you seem eager enough but there are rules to the forum which you don't seem to have read at all.

Anyway, I'm done with mini-modding, I might get in trouble for it. I felt forced to report your post and I'll let the actual mods decide what to do with it.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:18 am

Well, that was certainly a semi-rude way to go about explaining it... but yeah...?
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ankhael » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:25 am

Wow.. Talk about a guy having a bad day lol^^... I guess its fair to keep it in the fan fic. Thanks for the heads up

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:24 pm

Just a little comment but, this new separate Trunks: Future seems to come from Shin Budokai - Another Road, that game also had two different instances of Trunks: Future. It is really lazy though, I wouldn't mind having him separate if it was the younger one who actually fought alongside Gohan.

Just a small comment to show that this separation didn't come out of nowhere, it was a previous separate character that both me and TheDevilsCorpse didn't account for.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ankhael » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:42 pm

The future trunks above^^ is suppose to be future trunks after cell saga. I dnt understand what you mean by separate character

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:19 pm

Ankhael wrote:The future trunks above^^ is suppose to be future trunks after cell saga. I dnt understand what you mean by separate character
That's because I'm not talking about your post at all. Your post shows what the game classes as Trunks: Adolescence and it is a form of said character, who is not a separate character neither a new one. I'm talking about a different character all together.

You can read about it a few pages back but I'll give you some details here now. You see, the game had three different Trunks's; Trunks: Adolescence, whom we know as the Trunks from the Cell Arc; Trunks: Childhood, the one from the Buu Arc; and the self explanatory Trunks: GT.

Now with the 3DS game Ultimate Mission a new set of cards has surfaced, the game comes with cards for two new characters: Son Gohan: Future and Trunks: Future, a new separate Trunks from the previous three. This new Trunks seems to be the one from the TV Special but from the end bit of it, meaning it is undistinguished from the one at the beginning of the Cell Arc, sword and jacket and all that. The only difference is that he doesn't have all the transformations and he sports a jacket in a different shade of denim. Big whoop.

In sum, there is no need for this character to be a character in the first place but he was used in a game before or more specifically, this model existed in the engine before. There are a few more models coded into the engine that haven't been used yet. Me and TheDevilsCorpse have composed a small list of them and that has been discussed both here and on the Ultimate Mission topics. Again, reading a few pages here or there will give you all the answers you need.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:29 pm

DNA wrote:In sum, there is no need for this character to be a character in the first place but he was used in a game before or more specifically, this model existed in the engine before. There are a few more models coded into the engine that haven't been used yet. Me and TheDevilsCorpse have composed a small list of them and that has been discussed both here and on the Ultimate Mission topics. Again, reading a few pages here or there will give you all the answers you need.
I didn't include it because as far as I know, regardless of the names chosen for the characters in the game, the Heroes' version's default model never existed before. I never played Shin Budokai 2, but the roster video does have two playable Trunks characters, though they seem to be based off the Pre and Post RoSaT versions from the series itself, as one is in his normal jacket with his sword and the other is in the Saiyan battle jacket.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by JeffJarrett » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:42 pm

The two Future Trunks in Shin Budokai 2 are Trunks with sword and Trunks without sword, a separation which originally comes from the Sparking! games. But in Dragon Ball Heroes, both Future Trunks use sword attacks and non-sword attacks.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ankhael » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:53 pm

I wounder if they would include teen future trunks,
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ankhael » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:55 pm

JeffJarrett wrote:The two Future Trunks in Shin Budokai 2 are Trunks with sword and Trunks without sword, a separation which originally comes from the Sparking! games. But in Dragon Ball Heroes, both Future Trunks use sword attacks and non-sword attacks.
What about trunks in saiyan armor? Isnt he included in dragonball heroes

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:14 pm

Ankhael wrote:What about trunks in saiyan armor? Isnt he included in dragonball heroes
As an alternate costume for Trunks: Adolescence.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:11 pm

So, I always forgot to ask this. How does the new Galaxy Missions and characters get added to the machines in Japan? Sure, you need the cards to use them, but I mean how does the data and models get added? Is there some specific way they do that?
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by DNA » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:23 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I always forgot to ask this. How does the new Galaxy Missions and characters get added to the machines in Japan? Sure, you need the cards to use them, but I mean how does the data and models get added? Is there some specific way they do that?
That's a great question...
Since constantly manufacturing newer arcade slots would be expensive, I believe it must be something like DLC. The cabinets must be connected on-line and they release new updates which are downloaded into the machines, I guess.

Anyway TheDevilsCorpse, have you notice any sort of palette swaps on any video at all? I haven't noticed anything and doubt there are any.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by Ankhael » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:01 pm

I heard that the console version 3ds was going to have a story mode.. Do arcade version have a story mode? Is galaxy missions part of the story mode? I mean what are galaxy missions?

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by NeoKING » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:13 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I always forgot to ask this. How does the new Galaxy Missions and characters get added to the machines in Japan? Sure, you need the cards to use them, but I mean how does the data and models get added? Is there some specific way they do that?
Usually, the owner/manager of that arcade is responsible for upgrading the arcade machines with the newest and latest version (which must be bought) of whatever the game is, and they get that upgrade patch straight from the developers. Kind of like how clothes stores get more inventory of the newest and latest clothes. Orders have to be made.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes

Post by hulkty » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:37 pm

DNA wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I always forgot to ask this. How does the new Galaxy Missions and characters get added to the machines in Japan? Sure, you need the cards to use them, but I mean how does the data and models get added? Is there some specific way they do that?
That's a great question...
Since constantly manufacturing newer arcade slots would be expensive, I believe it must be something like DLC. The cabinets must be connected on-line and they release new updates which are downloaded into the machines, I guess.

Anyway TheDevilsCorpse, have you notice any sort of palette swaps on any video at all? I haven't noticed anything and doubt there are any.
I'm sure they're updated the same way Yugioh Duel Terminals are.

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