Was Gohan SSJ2 when he went Ultimate?

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Or was it just Super Saiya-Jin One? I specifically remember the Rou Kaioushin saying "Trying becoming a Super Saiya-Jin" or whatnot and then the Ultimate power up came. Although, it's said he acts and even looks a lot like his young, Super Saiya-Jin Two self, so I can't say; but also, it's not like it's easy to distinguish his SSJ1 and 2 forms, and he could just be acting like that because... well... I don't know, but Pikkoro doesn't even seem to recognize his attitude; you'd think he would have mentioned something like "Hey, he's like how he was against Seru..!", but no, he talks and acts as if he's never seen Gohan like that, ever before.

What do you all readers think?

[Fox666]

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[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

I've never heard of this; and I have to admit, I'm a little confused by what you mean. Would you care to elaborate a bit more?

[Bussani]

Gohan asked how to become the Strongest Warrior thing, and Elder Kaioshin more or less told him to just "do it like how you do that Super Saiyan thing". Goku then points out that Gohan's become amazing, but that he's barely changed on the outside; Elder Kaioshin explains that transforming is "the wrong way of doing things". In other words, he brought out his power by doing whatever it is he normally does to become a Super Saiyan, but he didn't actually transform.

The above is sort of paraphrased, but that's the gist of it.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Would that, perhaps, imply that he still hasn't harnessed his SSJ2 strength, you think?

[Rocketman]

Not in any possible way.

If he could've, he would've when Buu was beating the tar out of him.

Also he's already far stronger than even an SS3.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Kind of like how he didn't possibly use SSJ2 against Ma Jinn Dabra or Fat Ma Jinn Buu before getting knocked-out; I don't see why this would be different.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Wasn't this time different though, he brought all his potential power to the surface when he activated his new form. IMO he can't change anymore because his new form is all his power, rage won't change it either, and I'm pretty sure elder kaioshin would have mentioned him not using all his power if he still had something hidden.

[Bussani]

Would that, perhaps, imply that he still hasn't harnessed his SSJ2 strength, you think?

Personally, I always thought that strength was also brought to the surface by the vitual, giving him access to it without the need to transform. That's just how I always felt, though.

[Rocketman]

Kind of like how he didn't possibly use SSJ2 against Ma Jinn Dabra or Fat Ma Jinn Buu before getting knocked-out; I don't see why this would be different.

Because it is a different thing. It's not a Super Saiyan transformation, it's all his hidden power brought to the surface.

[Kaboom]

Powering up the same way he goes Super Saiyan was just how the 'Ultimate' state was finalized. I'd imagine it wouldn't matter if he tried going Super Saiyan 1 or Super Saiyan 2, or even 3 if he had it, because the result would be the same.

[SSJFinny]

I kinda agree that transforming would do nothing but use energy then cause a draining effect because of having to hold SSJ form. I do kinda wish the would have made his pupils green the whole time to kinda signify he was using his saiyan powers though.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

While Ultimate Gohan's hairstyle changes like when transforming into a Super Saiyan, his hairstyle in his Ultimate state doesn't match with any of his previous hairstyles:

Normal (High School arc)


Super Saiyan (High School arc)


Normal (25th Tenkaichi Budokai arc)


Super Saiyan (25th Tenkaichi Budokai arc)


Super Saiyan 2


Ultimate Gohan (while not fighting):


Ultimate Gohan


The forehead bang that Gohan has in every form goes to the left side, while in his Ultimate state, the bang goes to the right side. So, Gohan doesn't seem to be in a "base Super Saiyan" state.