Could Tenshinhan have learned Kaiou-ken?

[Attitudefan]

Remember too, that Ten can learn techniques by just seeing it once and performing it perfectly.

No, he can't. He replicated the Kamehameha with ease, but that's not a difficult technique to pull off. As for the Mafuba, he had to train to use that properly and ended up damaging the container because of his botched attempts.

Oh yeah, right. However, he can learn it on his own after seeing it unlike many other characters. Ten was special that way

[Bussani]

I dunno, I think a lot of characters learn things by themselves just from seeing it. Goku also learned the Kamehameha after only seeing it once. In fact, Kuririn learned to use it more or less on the spot after deciding: "If Yamcha can do it, I must be able to as well." Goku taught himself to fly, and both of them copied Taiyo-ken really easily (Kuririn even tells a surprised Piccolo that it's easy enough to copy).

[Nazi Cola]

I don't personally think so. It was kind of made a point that Goku was somehow the exception to the rule of mastering the Kaio-ken technique, which even the creator of it (Kaio) couldn't do, in my opinion.

[SSJFinny]

I just read a LSSJ thread by herms, after reading IMO kaiou-ken is like SSJ. King Kai would have been alive to see the last SSJ. So its possible (again) IMO that he based the transformation off SSJ. Meaning only ppl with a high enough power level ,strong enough body and will power could learn it. Making it like the "puesdo SSJ" in movie 4.

[ABED]

I think Tenshinhan was the type who could've if Toriyama had cared enough about his b-team characters. One of the unfortunate things that happened as the series progressed is Tenshinhan became less and less relevant. He's one of my favorites and it was established that he was a VERY talented fighter and capable of copying attacks after seeing them sometimes only once. Goku figured out the Kamehameha in a minute when it took Muten Roshi 50 years to create it. His students might have figured it out, but his students also surpassed him, so I don't think it's neccessarily easy. Bottom line, yes I think he could've.

Even if we assume it's easy to learn the Kamehameha, he also learned the Mafuba and as has been pointed out, the Kikoho.

[GoKu.SaMa]

Ten has the talent to learn any technique from just seeing it once, so of course he is capable of learning the Kaiou-ken.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Ten has the talent to learn any technique from just seeing it once, so of course he is capable of learning the Kaiou-ken.

Kaio-ken isn't any technique though. It's a technique not even Kaio, the inventor of the technique, could master.

[GoKu.SaMa]

Ten has the talent to learn any technique from just seeing it once, so of course he is capable of learning the Kaiou-ken.

Kaio-ken isn't any technique though. It's a technique not even Kaio, the inventor of the technique, could master.

When it comes to learning techniques Ten is much better than Goku.

The first time Goku saw a Kamehameha he couldn't do it right. Ten did it right from the first time he saw it.

[hleV]

when it comes to learning techniques ten is much better than goku

the first time goku saw a kamehameha he couldn`t do it right

ten did it right from the first time he saw it .

Except that when Goku learned Kamehameha, he wasn't familiar with ki techniques at all. Tenshinhan was already a master of ki techniques when he learned Kamehameha.

[GoKu.SaMa]

when it comes to learning techniques ten is much better than goku

the first time goku saw a kamehameha he couldn`t do it right

ten did it right from the first time he saw it .

Except that when Goku learned Kamehameha, he wasn't familiar with ki techniques at all. Tenshinhan was already a master of ki techniques when he learned Kamehameha.

Mmmm right, Goku might be more talented than Ten even when it comes to techniques but Ten is (still) capable of learning the Kaiou-ken.

I think he would need more time than the time Goku had to learn it.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

when it comes to learning techniques ten is much better than goku

Why? Goku learned the Kamehameha as easily as Tenshinhan did, and he didn't even know how to use ki back then. As a Saiyan, Goku is a very talented martial artist as well. There isn't any indication about Tenshinhan being more talented than Goku.

Besides, that's what Tenshinhan said:

Chapter: 124, P13.1-2
Context: after Tenshinhan fires a Kamehameha
Goku: “Amazin’..!”
Kuririn: “Wh-what a guy…Th-that one just now was really huge…”
Tenshinhan: “Fufufu…With that level of technique, if I see it just once I can immediately make it my own. Show me even more techniques! I’ll become stronger and stronger!”

He can learn immediately techniques of the level the Kamehameha, not any technique

[GoKu.SaMa]

when it comes to learning techniques ten is much better than goku

Why? Goku learned the Kamehameha as easily as Tenshinhan did, and he didn't even know how to use ki back then. As a Saiyan, Goku is a very talented martial artist as well. There isn't any indication about Tenshinhan being more talented than Goku.

Besides, that's what Tenshinhan said:

Chapter: 124, P13.1-2
Context: after Tenshinhan fires a Kamehameha
Goku: “Amazin’..!”
Kuririn: “Wh-what a guy…Th-that one just now was really huge…”
Tenshinhan: “Fufufu…With that level of technique, if I see it just once I can immediately make it my own. Show me even more techniques! I’ll become stronger and stronger!”

He can learn immediately techniques of the level the Kamehameha, not any technique

Yes, it appears that Goku is more talented than Ten even when it comes to techniques but Ten is (still) capable of learning the Kaiou-ken.

[Attitudefan]

And if you think about it, Ten learned the KiKoHo, which is not much different than the Kaio-Ken. Plus, wasn't Ten the only one to master THAT technique?

[GoKu.SaMa]

And if you think about it, Ten learned the KiKoHo, which is not much different than the Kaio-Ken. Plus, wasn't Ten the only one to master THAT technique?

Mutaito's students used the Kikoho against the Mazoku (Piccolo daimao's sons).

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

I could imagine Tenshinhan being able to do Kaiou-ken tenfold; and then he used it on Seru to be able to blast Kikoukou's with powerful enough kiais to blast him down into the crater; and the Shin Kikouhou probably just made it easier to blast out kiai-like forces instead of just sucking his energy and life form for a big-ass beam like with Nappa and Gokuu.

[ABED]

And if you think about it, Ten learned the KiKoHo, which is not much different than the Kaio-Ken. Plus, wasn't Ten the only one to master THAT technique?

I don't think it was a matter of him being the only one to do it, he was the only one that reckless. The technique has the ability to kill the user.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

but still ten is capeable of learning the kaiou ken

We can't know that. He never used it, and there is no official source supporting this, so it's all speculation based on nothing.

And if you think about it, Ten learned the KiKoHo, which is not much different than the Kaio-Ken.

There is no relation between the two techniques, other than overusing it kills the user, but not in the same way. Kikoho uses the user's life-force, while the Kaio-ken destroys the body because it can't hold that much power.

Plus, wasn't Ten the only one to master THAT technique?

Tsuru-sennin can use it as well, according to the Daizenshuu. And besides, no one else mastered the technique because no one else tried to learn it.

[Marco Polo]

but still ten is capeable of learning the kaiou ken

We can't know that. He never used it, and there is no official source supporting this, so it's all speculation based on nothing.

I was under the impression that the topic is about whether or not Tenshinhan COULD learn it, rather than whether or not he DID learn it.

It's a very clear fact that he didn't learn it. (Kaio didn't teach him it and he never saw Goku use it since he was dead the few times Goku used it.)

[GoKu.SaMa]

but still ten is capeable of learning the kaiou ken

We can't know that. He never used it, and there is no official source supporting this, so it's all speculation based on nothing.

And if you think about it, Ten learned the KiKoHo, which is not much different than the Kaio-Ken.

There is no relation between the two techniques, other than overusing it kills the user, but not in the same way. Kikoho uses the user's life-force, while the Kaio-ken destroys the body because it can't hold that much power.

Plus, wasn't Ten the only one to master THAT technique?

Tsuru-sennin can use it as well, according to the Daizenshuu. And besides, no one else mastered the technique because no one else tried to learn it.

All of the Z fighters can learn the Kaiou-ken, but the question is how much time would they spend learning it?

Ten is capable of learning the Kaioken in a short time (almost like Goku).

[Marco Polo]

All of the Z fighters can learn the Kaiou-ken, but the question is how much time would they spend learning it?

What. Facts tell us that not everyone can learn this technique. Kaio himself has existed for at least 500 years and he never managed to master this technique that he invented.