Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:42 am

It was featured in today's Nintendo Direct, and looked awful. Horrible aliasing, and an even worse frame rate.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:19 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:It was featured in today's Nintendo Direct, and looked awful. Horrible aliasing, and an even worse frame rate.
I never expected great graphics because... Nintendo. I rarely see good graphics in their consoles (haven't seen Wii U though). And no, I'm not a hater of Nintendo (I had GameBoy Color, Advance SP, NDS, and still have a Wii).
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:24 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I never expected great graphics because... Nintendo. I rarely see good graphics in their consoles
Wow, really? SNES, GBA and GameCube say nothing to you? Amazing. They had the best graphical output of their generation, hence why the Budokais looked better on GameCube than on the PlayStation 2.
You say you're not a hater but you do sound biased to me.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Xeogran » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:27 am

I completely forgot to look at that Nintendo Direct! Stupid me, i guess i'm too tired today :(

Well anyways, i'm happy to hear that it's being promoted =D.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:40 am

DNA wrote:Wow, really? SNES, GBA and GameCube say nothing to you? Amazing. They had the best graphical output of their generation, hence why the Budokais looked better on GameCube than on the PlayStation 2.
You say you're not a hater but you do sound biased to me.
Well, I'm talking mostly about the recent ones ((3)DS & Wii). They don't even compare to PSP, PSV, PS3, or XBox 360, graphics wise.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:20 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, I'm talking mostly about the recent ones ((3)DS & Wii). They don't even compare to PSP, PSV, PS3, or XBox 360, graphics wise.
Then you should have said that in the first place instead of generalizing.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:37 am

Just like before, I'm not criticizing this game's visuals compared to those of much more powerful hardware. I'm just saying that even for a 3DS game, this one's not looking so hot.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:52 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Just like before, I'm not criticizing this game's visuals compared to those of much more powerful hardware. I'm just saying that even for a 3DS game, this one's not looking so hot.
Yeah, the 3DS has been shown to be capable of much better graphical output than that.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:44 am

DNA wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Well, I'm talking mostly about the recent ones ((3)DS & Wii). They don't even compare to PSP, PSV, PS3, or XBox 360, graphics wise.
Then you should have said that in the first place instead of generalizing.
Yeah, my bad.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by MCDaveG » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:16 pm

Yeah, and don't forget N64 which totally had served Play Station 1. I still remember how damn great the Pokemon Stadium looked like in it's time!
But yeah, in terms of graphics, Nintendo somewhat overslept. They made it again after N64 wit GC vs PS2, but Wii looks like GC, only with different gameplay
and so their next console, which will probably rival PS4 have output like XBOX 360.
And their handhelds are horrible, DS looked like 3D Advance, and 3DS is on par with PSP and now the Vita looks almost like PS3....
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:29 pm

That's mainly because they abandoned the graphical wars for something better, and the sales they had showed that it worked. Graphics are not everything.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by MCDaveG » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:34 pm

DNA wrote:That's mainly because they abandoned the graphical wars for something better, and the sales they had showed that it worked. Graphics are not everything.
That's true, I really enjoy playing on Wii, but Wii U didn't got me interested, as I allready have XBOX instead.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:40 pm

MCDaveG wrote:
DNA wrote:That's mainly because they abandoned the graphical wars for something better, and the sales they had showed that it worked. Graphics are not everything.
That's true, I really enjoy playing on Wii, but Wii U didn't got me interested, as I allready have XBOX instead.
I've got both and play both. One does not invalidate the other, that's the beauty of the Wii, it can stand as an alternate platform with no rival. Nintendo abandoned the race, created a new race for it's own and left Sony and Microsoft baffled trying to run both races. They are still competing with each other whilst trying to catch up to Nintendo, the result is the ridiculous products we get from both franchises like Sony's dildo like abomination and the Kinetic.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Avenged » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:37 pm

Nintendo isn't a bout graphics, any fan would know that. It's about their games namely Zelda and Mario.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Saiga » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:22 am

I prefer better graphics over gimmicks, which is why I've shied away from Nintendo. I'll still get the handhelds for Pokemon (and hopefully some Dragon Ball releases) but I don't think I'll buy another console after the Wii >.>
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by MCDaveG » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:55 am

Well, Kinect have so much potential and I love to play on it, but it's wasted.... Nothing interesting came out on Kinect.
But yeah, Wii is awesome platform and I allready mentioned countless times, how Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is superb gameplay wise, when you mirror the specials with nunchuks (like doing kamehameha, same as Goku does).
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:02 am

DNA wrote:That's mainly because they abandoned the graphical wars for something better, and the sales they had showed that it worked. Graphics are not everything.
Maybe better for Iwata's wallet, but I struggle to think how their strategy is better for the gamer who naturally should want the most, and best. Their decision to release considerably underpowered platforms has pretty much ensured their home consoles get laughably poor third party support, rather than parity with the competition. It has also left them considerably behind the others in terms of network capabilities because their devices haven't been able to have proper infrastructures in place until recently.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by MCDaveG » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:54 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:
DNA wrote:That's mainly because they abandoned the graphical wars for something better, and the sales they had showed that it worked. Graphics are not everything.
Maybe better for Iwata's wallet, but I struggle to think how their strategy is better for the gamer who naturally should want the most, and best. Their decision to release considerably underpowered platforms has pretty much ensured their home consoles get laughably poor third party support, rather than parity with the competition. It has also left them considerably behind the others in terms of network capabilities because their devices haven't been able to have proper infrastructures in place until recently.
I second this, as a concurent for PS2, Wii totally beaten SONY down. Against PS3 and XBOX it was more difficult. There is lot of good titles, that you can play to your liking on PS3 or XBOX, but to Wii, the graphics was dumbed down (like Force Unleashed, on XBOX/PS3 it's marvelous!!!) or wasn't available at all and you have only motion control left.
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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by DNA » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:27 pm

Of course. Commercial success is more important than popularity. But that's why most people have two consoles, me included, because the Wii is more affordable and if you want to play gorgeous looking titles you buy one of the other consoles. If that's not a perfect marketing strategy, I don't know what is.
But again, graphics are not everything, for some reason Super Mario Galaxy was applauded as one of the best games ever, easily trampling competitors who are graphically superior. Would it be better if it was HD? Sure, but that didn't stop it from being considered the best.

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Re: Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission for 3DS

Post by SSJ6Goku » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:04 am

first 60 minutes + opening of DBHeroes

http://www.saiyanisland.com/2013/03/dra ... mission-1/

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