Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[hleV]

It's like an EOZ Gohan. With no hair bang, glasses and all.

[Chuquita]

Chara Puchi-esque things...

Those are cute. X3

I like how, much like Goku's waving-to-you motion is one of his signatures, Birusu's destruction-finger-pointing has become his own version of that. XD

Also, I'm still so happy they updated Kuririn's 90's hair to something modern. The new cut looks much better on him imo.

I guess we're going to have to wait until at least after the early preview showings before they start revealing toys for Goku's new transformation?

[Avenged]

Where's the source for these new toys?

[fogdark]

I still can't help but be baffled by the excessive references to GT/Gogeta in this thread--and here I thought Kanzenshuu was a community with, by and large, good common sense. Okay, Gogeta is one thing... I could maybe see him being used if Toriyama liked him, but to expect any consistency to follow GT is fallacious at best. If you honestly think Gohan's loss of his Kaioshin power-up has shit to do with GT, I feel sorry for you.

I'll have to respecfully disagree with you here. No matter how terrible, and full of plot holes Dragon Ball GT is, it existed, so there's no use trying to pretend it's not there. And then you have to realize that there are fans who do like GT for what it was, or simply for stuff like SSJ4 or some enemies. So, unless Toei comes out and says GT is some sort of parallel universe, then it still is an official continuation of the anime.

And I don't say just this because Toriyama had scant involvement in it or any sort of canon-based conjecture, but because outside of video games, GT has been essentially erased from history. It's like most bands, there's always a huge, steaming pile of shit of an album that everyone wants to forget, but sometimes, once in a blue moon, the band will take one or two of the better tracks from that album and play it live. That, to me, is what's happened with GT. You'll get small story bits and a few characters in video games every once in a while. Dragon Ball Heroes is the first time, if I'm not mistaken, since the series ended back in 1997 that any sort of official art or merchandise has been released. Save for domestic releases, such as the abysmal Dragon Ball GT: Transformation or localization of Final Bout.

True, ever since the series ended, the focus of all merchandise have been on Dragon Ball Z, but that's an obvious move, isn't it? DBZ is the most popular part of the entire series, that's what most fans expect and want from a Dragon Ball game, so that's what most game developers give them. I mean, going by that logic, the original series is almost at the same position as GT since, until not long ago, it was basically ignored (and still is in some ways).
I don't really like GT as a whole, just a few concepts and ideas from it, but there are some people do like GT for whatever reason, and their concern is valid. The appearance of a Super Saiyan God transformation could potentially leave a whole lot of inconsistencies between the movie and DBGT, so I don't see what's the problem in discussing it. I even think it's a far more interesting topic of discussion than, for example, why is Kaio-sama's planet back.
I, for one, don't think this "God" form will be permanent. First of all, even if they don't mention anything related to GT in the movie, making this transformation permanent would completely disregard Dragon Ball GT as a continuation, and second, it doesn't need to be permanent. Just by having Goku reach such a state only once is enough for the "business". Next games will have him with that transformation, and I'm sure other saiyan characters will unlock the "God Mode" in future games.

[Relentless Saiyan72]

Hi everyone! I've been watching this website for the last few years and I finally decided to join. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you . On topic, I hope Goku's new "GOD" form looks amazing. I can imagine it looking similar to SSJ4 Gogeta.

[NeoKING]

So can we assume that the reason Freeza's death to a Saiyan was so important to Bilus because at the time it was thought that the one who defeated Freeza was the Super Saiyan of legend and assumed that it was the Super Saiyan God who was to be held responsible, when in actuality it was just ... a Super Saiyan?

[Gyt Kaliba]

You know, looking at those new figures...I can't help but notice there's 12 of them. That's just two short of being two sets of 7...maybe there's two more figures that we aren't seeing, perhaps one of 'Super Saiyan God' and...well, something else!

The problem with my theory on this though is, just going off of what few of the Dragon Balls we get a good look at there, there's three four-star balls. Goku's on one, Bils' is on one, and Buu is on another. It looks like Gohan might be on one too. So...I dunno.

[NeoKING]

I love how even though he introduced Kaioshin as the supreme ruler of the universe, Kai-Oh still has the "God overseer" role in Toriyama's DB. We haven't seen one mention of Kaioshin yet, have we?

[Bussani]

I'll have to respecfully disagree with you here. No matter how terrible, and full of plot holes Dragon Ball GT is, it existed, so there's no use trying to pretend it's not there. And then you have to realize that there are fans who do like GT for what it was, or simply for stuff like SSJ4 or some enemies. So, unless Toei comes out and says GT is some sort of parallel universe, then it still is an official continuation of the anime.

I don't think it's a case of pretending it's not there, or even disliking it. It's more a question of whether Toriyama and the other creators care if this movie fits with it or not--especially with comments like Toriyama's about writing it as if the serialization of the manga had continued. This is the guy who didn't even watch the anime and contradicted things the anime did in his story, so I'd have my doubts about him going out of his way to make something fit with GT. But hey, we'll just have to wait and see.

I love how even though he introduced Kaioshin as the supreme ruler of the universe, Kai-Oh still has the "God overseer" role in Toriyama's DB.

Well, he is the narrator.

[Relentless Saiyan72]

I have one question. If this new SSJ GOD form is suppose to be the most powerful form of a ssj, How come Goku didn't awaken it during his battle against Freeza or Buu in that matter?

[Avenged]

I have one question. If this new SSJ GOD form is suppose to be the most powerful form of a ssj, How come Goku didn't awaken it during his battle against Freeza or Buu in that matter?

Because Goku progresses.

[Insertclevername]

The same reason why Gokuu didn't turn SSJ2 on Namek or why Gohan didn't turn SSJ3 against Cell. Those forms aren't in chronological order or conceived at the time.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I have one question. If this new SSJ GOD form is suppose to be the most powerful form of a ssj, How come Goku didn't awaken it during his battle against Freeza or Buu in that matter?

Nothing can be said for sure until the movie's actually out maybe, but I'm guessing (what with the different sounding name and all) that there's something more to achieving 'Super Saiyan God' status than just being strong enough or angry enough at the right time.

Or, maybe, achieving the first three stages of transformation is a per-requisite or something. Otherwise, why wouldn't Goku's rage have pushed him straight to any of the forms instead of Super Saiyan against Freeza originally.

Or for a real-world answer- it hadn't been thought of yet.

So yeah, until we know exactly what's happening in the movie, it's pretty much anyone's ball game.

[Relentless Saiyan72]

I have one question. If this new SSJ GOD form is suppose to be the most powerful form of a ssj, How come Goku didn't awaken it during his battle against Freeza or Buu in that matter?

Nothing can be said for sure until the movie's actually out maybe, but I'm guessing (what with the different sounding name and all) that there's something more to achieving 'Super Saiyan God' status than just being strong enough or angry enough at the right time.

Or, maybe, achieving the first three stages of transformation is a per-requisite or something. Otherwise, why wouldn't Goku's rage have pushed him straight to any of the forms instead of Super Saiyan against Freeza originally.

Or for a real-world answer- it hadn't been thought of yet.

So yeah, until we know exactly what's happening in the movie, it's pretty much anyone's ball game.

Very good points It only makes sense for Goku to achieve his "GOD" state since he is fighting a "GOD" I'm hoping its at-least a power-up and nothing he can go into again.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I love how even though he introduced Kaioshin as the supreme ruler of the universe, Kai-Oh still has the "God overseer" role in Toriyama's DB.

Well, he is the narrator.

It would be hilarious as hell if, Yūji Mitsuya (seiyuu of Kaioshin) had replaced Jōji Yanami (seiyuu of Kaio & Narrator) as the narrator for an episode or two, because Jōji Yanami would be unavailable for one reason or another, and after returning, the Narrator would say "I'm back!" or something.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I very much dislike this SSJ God being a one time only thing idea. Let Goku have his super God-like power up. He has worked his ass off his whole life, he deserves this kind of power willingly. Honestly I think it would be really cool if there was a God of creation and Goku is supposed to be his incarnate.

[Chuquita]

I like Kaio-sama better than Kaioshin anyway, so I'm happy he's the one who's in the trailers.
Jōji Yanami has a cooler voice too imo.

[Relentless Saiyan72]

I very much dislike this SSJ God being a one time only thing idea. Let Goku have his super God-like power up. He has worked his ass off his whole life, he deserves this kind of power willingly. Honestly I think it would be really cool if there was a God of creation and Goku is supposed to be his incarnate.

I agree he deserves the power up, but it only makes sense to have him do it "one time" only. Especially if he is in a battle of death against birusu.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I very much dislike this SSJ God being a one time only thing idea. Let Goku have his super God-like power up. He has worked his ass off his whole life, he deserves this kind of power willingly. Honestly I think it would be really cool if there was a God of creation and Goku is supposed to be his incarnate.

I agree he deserves the power up, but it only makes sense to have him do it "one time" only. Especially if he is in a battle of death against birusu.

How does that make sense?

[KaiserNeko]

Okay, seriously, what is WITH so much of the promotional material giving Trunks blue hair?

... His hair had better not be blue in the movie...