Bojack's Power

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Bojack's Power

Post by Undertaker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:34 am

I think Bojack is a wasteful character. Everyone underestimates him and says he is barely stronger than Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan which is just wrong. I would prove that he is actually a pretty tough character and he is at least in par with Full Power Perfect Cell.

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Bojack is first shown to beat SSjin Trunks with 1 kick which makes Trunks faint. Later, he is completely shown when Gohan arrives to save his friends and Gohan comments Bojack's ki is huge.

Gohan: "That’s a huge fighting strength."

Base Bojack must be stronger than M9 FPSSjin Gohan who is comparable to his Cell Games self for Gohan to be pretty impressed.

Bojack: "Not bad brat. However, you’re not strong enough to beat us no matter how hard you try."

Bojack confirms Gohan is not that bad when he saw him fighting his henchmen but not enough to beat him which proves Base Bojack should be above Cell Games FPSSjins Goku and Gohan by a good margin at least. I would say his base form is around the Cell who was beating Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan.

Base Bojack ~ Suppressed Perfect Cell > FPSSjin Gohan M9/Cell Games.

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Bojack vs Piccolo

1. Bojack dodges Piccolo's punch.
2. Bojack knees Piccolo to the guts and punches him.
3. Piccolo kicked Bojack and Bojack falls towards a building.
4. Piccolo tries to do a fist slam to Bojack. But he ducks under it and moves up high behind Piccolo.
5. Bojack tires to blast Piccolo, but he just slaps the ki away.
6. Bojack does the energy ball again. Piccolo try to bounce the ball out, but it’s too powerful so it hit him. Piccolo gets slammed to another building and falls to the ground. Explanation: Piccolo was so hurt that he was unable to stand later and he was shown to be unconscious later on from just one blast of Bojack. M9/Cell Games Piccolo is leagues below Cell Games Vegeta and Trunks in the Anime.

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Bojack vs SSjin Trunks

1. Bojack first beats SSjin Trunks who is as strong as in the Cell Games with 1 kick which makes him faint.
2. Trunks woke up after some time and then does his Burning Attack But Bojack just used his Barrier.
3. Bojack later one shots SSjin Trunks with 1 blast.

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Bojack vs SSjin Vegeta
1. Vegeta gives out a couple of hand blasts to Bojack As did Bojack with the hand blast. Giving blast to blast across a building.
2. One of Bojack's powerful blasts toward Vegeta. Vegeta tries to blast it out. Bojack had more power and blew Vegeta off this foot.
3. Bojack punches Vegeta at the face.
4. Bojack gives a low blow to Vegeta to the ground.
5. Bojack gives a knee to Vegeta's back.
6. Bojack gives a spinning kick to Vegeta’s waist.
7. Vegeta is thrown to a Big Ben look a like. Explanation: Bojack easily beat SSjin Vegeta who is comparable to his Cell Games self that Vegeta appeared to go back to his base form from a few kicks. Cell Games SSjin Vegeta > 50% MSSjin Goku.
8. Bojack punches Vegeta so hard he ripped his sleeve.
9. Bojack elbows Vegeta.
10. Bojack powered up like Gokua as did and begins a power up energy ball. Explanation: Similar to trunks and Piccolo, Vegeta also fainted upon losing to Bojack. That shows Bojack in his base form is much stronger than Cell Games SSjins Vegeta and Trunks who are > 50% MSSjin Goku. Bojack powers up to his full power. His power greatly increased. Bojack's base form was already above M9/Cell Games FPSSjin Kid Gohan.

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Super Bojack > Base Bojack > M9/Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan > M9/Cell Games SSjin Vegeta > M9 Cell Games SSjin Vegeta > M9/Cell Games Piccolo.

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Bojack vs FPSSjin Gohan

1. Gohan charge at Bojack in FPSSjin mode and Bojack zanokens.
2. Bojack then grabs Gohan’s leg and throws Gohan up in the air.
3. Gohan lands on the side of the clock. Bojack tries a punch. They fly and punch each other.
4. Bojack tries a blast and Gohan stops it away.
5. Bojack moves in front of Gohan and punches him.
6. Two webs goes for Gohan. Gohan is trapped.
7. Bojack punches Gohan at the face.
8. Bojack gives a knee hit to Gohan’s face.
9. Gohan goes SSJ kicked Bojack and Gohan fights with all of Bojack’s crew. Gohan punches Bujin and Bido. Bojack kicked Gohan and Zangya fist slammed Gohan.
10. Bojack picks up Gohan and squeezes Gohan with his arms.

Bojack was obviously toying with FPSSjin Gohan as he was shown smiling and not trying so saying he is barely above FPSSjin Gohan is basically foolish because his base form was already above him.

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Bojack vs SSjin 2 Gohan

1. Bojack laughing jumps and let loose an energy ball but Gohan was standing unaffected.
2. Bojack charging at Gohan ready to punch, but Gohan moved faster and punched right through Bojack while he’s screaming in pain.
3. Bojack forming another blast with both of this hand. Gohan forms a Kamehameha. Both let loose of their strong energy beam. The energy ball and the Kamehameha made impact. A two figures seem too past after the impact.
Gohan was in front and Bojack behind him and Bojack exploded. Explanation: Bojack's attack cancelled SSjin 2 Kid Gohan's blast which is an impressive feat. this feat should put him at least in par with Full Power Perfect Cell IMO

Base Bojack was already way stronger than Cell Games SSjins Vegeta and Trunks who are above 50% MSSjin Goku and was stronger than Cell Games FPSSjins Goku and Gohan by a good margin at least. His full power was implied to be way stronger than his base form so he should be at least equal to Full Power Perfect Cell or even slightly stronger IMO.

Super Bojack >/~ Full Power Perfect Cell > Base Bojack > M9/Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan > M9/Cell Games SSjin Vegeta > M9 Cell Games SSjin Vegeta > M9/Cell Games Piccolo.

So yeah, it's annoying to see how people underrate Bojack and say he is barely stronger than Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan when he was toying with him, yet they think M8 LSSjin Broly who just beat 1st Post USSjin Vegeta and faced much weaker Z Fighters is even stronger than Perfect Cell which is just stupid. Bojack is not that weak.
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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by Nazi Cola » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:44 pm

Undertaker wrote:So yeah, it's annoying to see how people underrate Bojack and say he is barely stronger than Cell Games FPSSjin Gohan when he was toying with him, yet they think M8 LSSjin Broly who just beat 1st Post USSjin Vegeta and faced much weaker Z Fighters is even stronger than Perfect Cell which is just stupid. Bojack is not that weak.
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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by Pantalones » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:52 pm

That's always where I thought Bojack (at full power) was, right around full-power Cell or slightly above... but easier to kill because he has no regeneration.

I figure Dabura, Cell, Broly, and Bojack are all in about the same range as far as raw power goes, with Broly probably being the overall loser in a fight between all four of them due to the fact that he's the only one without any really special technique (Dabura's magic + stone-spit, Bojack's paralyzing wire/net things, Cell's regeneration plus everyone else's moves) that would give him an advantage against an equally-powerful opponent.

I also think Piccolo wasn't that far apart from Vegeta or Trunks (he was weaker than they were at the Cell Games, yeah, but not by a huge margin... at worst I can see him still being around the level they were at after their first day-year of training, the level where Vegeta was easily kicking around second-form Cell but no match for Perfect Cell... but he might be closer to their Cell Games-level powers than that.)
Seems like the Bojack movie puts Piccolo in about the same category of power as Trunks, weaker than Vegeta but still strong enough to put up a fight for a little while before being stomped.

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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by Undertaker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:06 pm

Pantalones wrote:That's always where I thought Bojack (at full power) was, right around full-power Cell or slightly above... but easier to kill because he has no regeneration.

I figure Dabura, Cell, Broly, and Bojack are all in about the same range as far as raw power goes, with Broly probably being the overall loser in a fight between all four of them due to the fact that he's the only one without any really special technique (Dabura's magic + stone-spit, Bojack's paralyzing wire/net things, Cell's regeneration plus everyone else's moves) that would give him an advantage against an equally-powerful opponent.

I also think Piccolo wasn't that far apart from Vegeta or Trunks (he was weaker than they were at the Cell Games, yeah, but not by a huge margin... at worst I can see him still being around the level they were at after their first day-year of training, the level where Vegeta was easily kicking around second-form Cell but no match for Perfect Cell... but he might be closer to their Cell Games-level powers than that.)
Seems like the Bojack movie puts Piccolo in about the same category of power as Trunks, weaker than Vegeta but still strong enough to put up a fight for a little while before being stomped.
M8 Broly is no match for them. He is in par with Cell Games FPSSjin Goku and Gohan IMO.

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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by GoKu.SaMa » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:08 pm

Gohan defeated him with a punch but he couldn't do the same thing with cell , so i think it's obvious ...

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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:51 pm

I don't think Bojack being defeated by Super Saiyan 2 Gohan's punch implies he's weaker than Cell. He's definitely weaker than Super Perfect Cell, but I could see Bojack being around Full-Power Cell. Cell has regeneration and has great durability, so the chances of taking him out with physical attacks only, while possible, doesn't seem like the optimal thing to do in a battle with him.

Anyway, I always thought Bojack was much stronger than Super Saiyan Gohan. I think Gohan would probably have his hands full fighting Zangya, tho it's kinda hard to tell how strong she really is. Her effectiveness might be because of how good they are as a team--along with those psychic strings or whatever they're called.
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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:03 pm

Boujakku was also sealed into King Kaiou's planet for more than thousands of years, I think; so maybe that made him soft.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:10 pm

I have his full power self stronger than movie 8 Broly but that's all I got...
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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by Undertaker » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:16 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I have his full power self stronger than movie 8 Broly but that's all I got...
Even his base form is stronger than M8 LSSjin Broly since M8 LSSjin is at most around FPSSjin Gohan (Cell Games) IMO.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:19 pm

Undertaker wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:I have his full power self stronger than movie 8 Broly but that's all I got...
Even his base form is stronger than M8 LSSjin Broly since M8 LSSjin is at most around FPSSjin Gohan (Cell Games) IMO.
I wouldn't go that far. Maybe that's the case but I haven't done my Movie 9 power levels yet. I've got 1-5, 8 and 10 done.
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Re: Bojack's Power

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:33 pm

Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:Boujakku was also sealed into King Kaiou's planet for more than thousands of years, I think; so maybe that made him soft.
He was sealed in a planet, not in Kaio's Planet.
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