Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by elyas11 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:42 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It's weird that we see Goku powering-up into Super Saiyan God, but we also see him fighting Birusu in normal Super Saiyan form instead of Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3, which he used in their first battle.
This is true now you mention it.. Why would he even fight him in SSJ. Also, he fights him in SSJ3, gets battle damaged, then gets into space and fights him in SSJ there with clothes normal? Point is, he is SSJ3 in earth, in space he is SSJ1. But in space he also lost his orange top of the gi. I don't really get it..

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Bussani » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:43 pm

NeoKING wrote:Lol, Not really, I don't mind if this is the SSG or if it's something else. I'm just not accepting it for certain.
Has anyone accepted it for certain? I think every person who's posted has said "if that's Super Saiyan God".
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:46 pm

elyas11 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It's weird that we see Goku powering-up into Super Saiyan God, but we also see him fighting Birusu in normal Super Saiyan form instead of Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3, which he used in their first battle.
This is true now you mention it.. Why would he even fight him in SSJ. Also, he fights him in SSJ3, gets battle damaged, then gets into space and fights him in SSJ there with clothes normal? Point is, he is SSJ3 in earth, in space he is SSJ1. But in space he also lost his orange top of the gi. I don't really get it..
Could it be that they will replace the SS Goku with SSG Goku in the movie, like they did with Gohan? Maybe they have SS Goku vs Birusu in the trailers because they want to show scenes from the final battle, but not Super Saiyan God.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:10 pm

If that is SSJG I won't be fussed, it's nothing ground breaking, but it's still good. I'll just wait and see if this gets confirmed though, it will probably look better in motion too, if it turns out to be true. :)

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Post by Thanos » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:41 pm

SSJ4 Furanki wrote:Wonder if it'll be subbed or dubbed. Either way, I'm fine with it! Glad to see it is coming over to the US.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:45 pm

I do prefer Goku's base hair to his ssj hair (whose style always struck me as "Vegeta hair with bangs/fringe") so I like this wavy version of the base hair if that is what his ssjg form looks like.

I'm hesitant to confirm it 100% as being that too. Unless I know for sure, I can't say that's what that is even if it looks believable to me. The best thing about this "maybe it is?" form for me is that he's got his eyebrows and bangs; those were two things I really wanted from the new form. I'm happy I may have possibly gotten that.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by NeoKING » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:45 pm

Bussani wrote:
NeoKING wrote:Lol, Not really, I don't mind if this is the SSG or if it's something else. I'm just not accepting it for certain.
Has anyone accepted it for certain? I think every person who's posted has said "if that's Super Saiyan God".
Not really, and I'm not about to backtrack to prove it to you, because I don't want to.

But, nevermind that, I'm interested in this these internaitonal screenings. Here's hoping there's a screening somewhere in New York. Hopefully. Miraculously.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Ryuman » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:47 pm

Thanos wrote:
SSJ4 Furanki wrote:Wonder if it'll be subbed or dubbed. Either way, I'm fine with it! Glad to see it is coming over to the US.
Where are you getting this information?
Apparently the show that gave us the supposed image of Super Saiyan God talked about international screenings. At least, that's what I think was said. I'm assuming that's what he's on about.

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Post by InfernalVegito » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:48 pm

I can't really believe they would be so careless to have their ultimate secret for the movie revealed just like that. On the other hand, I also don't believe the entire thing is such a super hyper top-secret classified matter to begin with. Who knows.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:52 pm

I don't mind simplistic but this is just too simplistic. I can honestly say I would be rather annoyed if this was the final product. However I probably don't have to worry about that since Toei would likely not have that big of a secret just hanging on their front door.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:59 pm

It'd really be something else if this drawing turns out to be an intentional red herring. That would be clever and unusual.

So far, only one person in the 2ch thread about fifteen minutes ago just brought up (I think) this picture. No one else has commented on it over there.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:01 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I don't mind simplistic but this is just too simplistic.
Agreed. It doesn't feel... you know, godly.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Marco Polo » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:06 pm

Nappa looked physically much more impressive than Vegeta and yet Vegeta was the stronger one. Freeza's final form looked less impressive than his other forms and yet that was him at his strongest. Perfect Cell was mocked by Vegeta because he looked physically less impressive than his other forms and yet he was "perfect". I actually think it makes sense that Goku's final form would look less spectacular than SSJ3.

And we haven't even seen fight yet. For all we know he could move like gravity doesn't affect him and his ki attacks could be massive blue energy blasts that are even bigger than Bils's sun-like energy ball or whatever. It's not just about the form, it's about what he can do with it. Janemba's appearance wasn't anything groundbreaking IMO but he had tons of cool and unique moves.

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Post by FindKenshi » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:40 pm

Actually, that sketch fits perfectly with Super Saiyan God. All of Goku's power, released... just like Ultimate Warrior Gohan! That's Godly enough for anyone.
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Post by mikey41 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:40 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Goku and Vegeta could have sparred frequently in these 2 years allowing their powers to skyrocket. Vegeta's pride tends not get in the way anymore.
A lot of you people on Kanzenshuu underpower Goku inconsistently, even putting him below Gotenks and claiming the gap in their powers is too massive. So how is it that you come to the conclusion that Goku got that much stronger in that short amount of time. Why is it so hard for people to believe that Goku being stronger than Gohan in the Buu saga to begin with is actually highly possible/likely. I mean Vegeta did confirm that the battle between Goku/Kid buu would determine the fate of the universe and concluded that Goku was #1 and the only one capable of going up against him. Nobody actually stated that Gohan surpassed Goku during that time. Even the Kai's who were obsessively impressed with Gohan's ki in the beginning of the saga, yet once Goku is restored to life, the kai's all rely on Goku to save the day and forget about Gohan not giving one mention if he would be able to fight Kid buu like Goku did. Infact, Goku never even goes all out until the Kid buu fight.

The Japanese animated title of the episode when Buu is killed is even called : Son Goku is the strongest afterall!"
We all agree Ultimate Gohan was stronger than Super Buu, correct? Now when Goku and Vegeta were about to leave Super Buu's body after getting the pods, Goku stopped Vegeta and said even with Buu's decrease in power (back to his original Super Buu state) him and Vegeta still don't stand a chance. Goku is well aware of what Vegeta and himself are capable of, and admitted they don't stand a chance against Super Buu. That means SSJ2 Vegeta and SSJ3 Goku couldn't stand a chance against Super Buu, yet Ultimate Gohan totally outclassed him. So not only is Ultimate Gohan far stronger than Goku, but also Goku and Vegeta combined.

And no one relied on Goku. Goku and Vegeta decided to face kid Buu on their own due to pride, thats why they crushed the earrings. And because the fans wanted Goku to be the one to save the day, we all know that.

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Post by Bussani » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:45 pm

FindKenshi wrote:Actually, that sketch fits perfectly with Super Saiyan God. All of Goku's power, released... just like Ultimate Warrior Gohan! That's Godly enough for anyone.
Funny, I was just saying earlier that I'd been thinking it might have been cool, had the manga continued serialization, if Goku had somehow trained himself to bring his power out without transforming--like Ultimate Gohan, but without the ritual. It seemed to me that it would be a Goku-ish thing to do, and a natural progression for him after realizing the drawbacks of Super Saiyan 3 and hearing the elder Kaioshin say that transforming was the wrong way of doing things.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:46 pm

If we do get a limited screenings then I hope my AMC theater (the theater that I used to work for) can have a midnight show. It would be funny if Brad Jones and his friends do a midnight screening video on the movie. I doubt anyone of them watch the show and it would be funny to see their reactions of the movie :lol: .
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Post by FindKenshi » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:48 pm

mikey41 wrote:We all agree Ultimate Gohan was stronger than Super Buu, correct? Now when Goku and Vegeta were about to leave Super Buu's body after getting the pods, Goku stopped Vegeta and said even with Buu's decrease in power (back to his original Super Buu state) him and Vegeta still don't stand a chance. Goku is well aware of what Vegeta and himself are capable of, and admitted they don't stand a chance against Super Buu. That means SSJ2 Vegeta and SSJ3 Goku couldn't stand a chance against Super Buu, yet Ultimate Gohan totally outclassed him. So not only is Ultimate Gohan far stronger than Goku, but also Goku and Vegeta combined.

And no one relied on Goku. Goku and Vegeta decided to face kid Buu on their own due to pride, thats why they crushed the earrings. And because the fans wanted Goku to be the one to save the day, we all know that.
It's not quite all that simple.. if it were, then the Buu saga "power standings" discussion wouldn't be the decade long debate that it is. Certain things that were said and shown a short time later when Pure Buu enters into the story casts doubt on this assessment. I won't get into the finer details, because VegettoEX hates this discussion. But I will say this... you can't say for certain that Goku didn't make that statement for the sole purpose of buttering Vegeta up for a fusion dance. He also could have been concerned with Vegeta getting in the way, and simply didn't favor confronting Buu for that reason.
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Post by NeoKING » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:07 pm

Chuquita wrote:It'd really be something else if this drawing turns out to be an intentional red herring. That would be clever and unusual.

So far, only one person in the 2ch thread about fifteen minutes ago just brought up (I think) this picture. No one else has commented on it over there.
I dunno, given the fact that this image is placed next to the original Dragon Ball anime logo, I feel like this is just some throw-away generic no-use image of Goku; something just to let staff and guests understand that "Hey, this is the Dragon Ball sector of the office, everyone's powering up and doing their very best!" or something like that.

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Post by Draken » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:46 pm

To me, the supposed image of SSG Goku just looks like him powering up to a regular Super Saiyan. Like when he stands there calm and is the in-between stages of SSJ aura flare-up and regular Goku.

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