Why won't FUNimation release new copies of Dragon Box Z 2?

[dbboxkaifan]

If they use the internet, forums and eBay, most likely they've noticed that Dragon Box Z Vol. 2 particularly is being sold at a high price, and this is where they could make money off of it.

Maybe they were only able to publish it for a limited time, but if not, they could release a Slim DVD Pack version of the Dragon Box Z 2 containing the same discs, without the original packaging (box + dvdbooks + booklet). Almost identical but for a lot cheaper. For this to happen perhaps they should start with the first and then move on to the next ones. I'd say that featuring the US replacement music could be a great sales boost for them, and US DBZ Music fans would be happy too.

Surely no one wants the Orange Bricks because of things like this below:

There are worse, but this is just a couple of examples of why the Orange Bricks shouldn't exist.

[sintzu]

funi want's to sell the remasterd edition of the series so if they make a normal release of the dragon boxs no one would buy the remasterd sets

[SupremeSSJ]

funi want's to sell the remasterd edition of the series so if they make a normal release of the dragon boxs no one would buy the remasterd sets

Agree,i it wasn't for funi DB wouldn't be popular in US. So funi treats the d-boxes like a Bugatti so they will not re-release

[CaBrPi]

I'm pretty sure Funimation's agreement to release the Dragon Boxes stateside had a particular stipulation limiting the number of copies produced.

[oXdanXo]

Why would they do that it would alienate some fans, I paid full price for mine, it's now worth more, a reprint makes it worth less even though I'm not planning to ever sell mine, they said it would be a limited release and it was. Everyone had the chance to buy one, some people held off because they didn't want to pay the MSRP in the hopes it would get lower and that's their fault, I did the same thing here in the UK witha few of my favourite Blu Ray releases like the play.com Terminator Steelbook and now if I want one I'll have to pay 3 times the price.
I think I ended up paying close to $100 for my Cooler Double Feature USA Steelbook because I was too late although Funi never said that would be a limited release (I held off because I had to buy a lot of Legend Of Saiyan figures at that point but I was always prepared to pay the MSRP). I would love for them to release the Dragon Boxes as singles though, giving the people who are missing certain boxes the chance to either just buy those as singles or get rid of their Dragon Boxes and buy the entire release as singles, but at a reasonable price point like $15 for 6 episodes. Kind of like what Toei did in Japan with the Dragon Boxes.

[superrayman3]

I would love for them to release the Dragon Boxes as singles though, giving the people who are missing certain boxes the chance to either just buy those as singles or get rid of their Dragon Boxes and buy the entire release as singles, but at a reasonable price point like $15 for 6 episodes. Kind of like what Toei did in Japan with the Dragon Boxes.

I agree FUNi should release either singles of their DBOX footage or release them with a few discs as volumes, sadly I didn't know about the DBOX's till they were already OOP and now if I want the earlier boxes I have to pay outrageous prices to get them, and while it is true that FUNi first said when they initially acquired the DBOX's that they were going to be a limited print item, a mistake they made was that after their initial announcement they never mentioned the fact that the DBOX's were limited print again until AFTER they decided to discontinue them, so how was the people who didn't see the original announcement supposed to know about them being limited print, that coupled with the fact that none of their DBOX trailers ever mentioned them being limited print items doesn't help matters either.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Chris Sabat's using the remaining copies of Dragon Box 2 to build a new house.

Speaking of which, how come Dragon Box 3 is still relatively easy to find. If you're not picking them up in order, surely the box with such a classic portion of the series would be one of the first you pick up.

[oXdanXo]

I would love for them to release the Dragon Boxes as singles though, giving the people who are missing certain boxes the chance to either just buy those as singles or get rid of their Dragon Boxes and buy the entire release as singles, but at a reasonable price point like $15 for 6 episodes. Kind of like what Toei did in Japan with the Dragon Boxes.

I agree FUNi should release either singles of their DBOX footage or release them with a few discs as volumes, sadly I didn't know about the DBOX's till they were already OOP and now if I want the earlier boxes I have to pay outrageous prices to get them, and while it is true that FUNi first said when they initially acquired the DBOX's that they were going to be a limited print item, a mistake they made was that after their initial announcement they never mentioned the fact that the DBOX's were limited print again until AFTER they decided to discontinue them, so how was the people who didn't see the original announcement supposed to know about them being limited print, that coupled with the fact that none of their DBOX trailers ever mentioned them being limited print items doesn't help matters either.

I feel for you, but if you're constrained by a tight budget you will find them in the end, I found the Cooler Steelbook 3 times before I bought it over the course of a year on Amazon.ca or .com for $30 USD which I'd gladly have paid but by the time I asked the seller if they would ship internationally someone located domestically bought them, if you live in the USA then the chances of you getting them for less than the MSRP are still high if you're willing to check every day. One thing I've learnt from Funimation is if you want it grab it, I'm still trying to get One Piece Season 2 Voyage 5 for MSRP or underalthough my chances are slim since it's only in the US and I live in the UK.

[dbboxkaifan]

a reprint makes it worthless

Well, I suppose but everyone should be given a second chance at getting this for a decent price without paying an expensive absurd amount of money for 40 episodes.

I would love for them to release the Dragon Boxes as singles though, giving the people who are missing certain boxes the chance to either just buy those as singles or get rid of their Dragon Boxes and buy the entire release as singles, but at a reasonable price point like $15 for 6 episodes. Kind of like what Toei did in Japan with the Dragon Boxes.

Definitely! I most likely would buy it.

[Bagginses]

I paid full price for mine, it's now worth more

What was the full price that you paid and how much more is it worth now?

[Pretorious]

I've sent FUNimation at least two emails asking if they'd reprint Dragon Box 2, but they didn't reply. Not that I really expected them to.

I wouldn't be surprised if they released something akin to the DBox DVD singles at some point. Eventually something better than the orange bricks will have to come out, right? I would much rather have the original Dragon Box 2, because it would complete my collection, plus the packaging and Dragon Books are gorgeous, but I would buy the singles if that's all I could get.

[penguintruth]

They should make cheaper, stripped down versions without all the... oh, that's right, they didn't HAVE extras. Well, besides the shiny booklets.

Guess you can always wait for the Blu-Rays to continue again.

(Oooh, they should release the DBox versions of the movies as singles.)

[Pretorious]

The Dragon Books are excellent extras, I think. Not sure why anyone would be down on them. What difference does it make that there aren't on-disc extras?

[Bagginses]

They should make cheaper, stripped down versions without all the... oh, that's right, they didn't HAVE extras. Well, besides the shiny booklets.

Guess you can always wait for the Blu-Rays to continue again.

(Oooh, they should release the DBox versions of the movies as singles.)

GOD, they didn't even release the movies box yet, and you're thinking about the singles? At least the Dragon Boxes they have actually released, one way or another... (well, actually, they have done it in box form, but you get the idea )

[superrayman3]

I've sent FUNimation at least two emails asking if they'd reprint Dragon Box 2, but they didn't reply. Not that I really expected them to.

Just merely asking them for a reprint of DBOX vol 2 might not be enough in their eyes to warrant a reprint, you might need a stronger argument that holds merit for example in your request for a reprint if you were to bring up the fact that they only mentioned that they were a limited print only once before the DBOX's were actually released and never mentioned this fact again until after the fact thus causing confusion about the limited printing among fans that never saw or read the initial announcement, then maybe they might consider reprinting DBOX vol 2, I know it's a long shot but if an email that brings up this fact is worded just right we might stand a chance.

I wouldn't be surprised if they released something akin to the DBox DVD singles at some point.

We can only hope they will but knowing FUNimation it might not happen, they've made some of the oddest choices when it comes to releasing Z so I wouldn't put it past them to not do it.

Eventually something better than the orange bricks will have to come out, right?

Sooner or later yes but for now the crappy OB's are the only way to own the complete series at an affordable price.

I would much rather have the original Dragon Box 2, because it would complete my collection, plus the packaging and Dragon Books are gorgeous, but I would buy the singles if that's all I could get.

Personally I'd like the DBOX's as well because I like how they look and I think it would make a nice addition to my collection but I'm willing to take singles if FUNi's willing to release them.

The Dragon Books are excellent extras, I think. Not sure why anyone would be down on them.

Some people may be down on them because some people only care about the footage, personally I think the Dragon Books are a nice thing to have as a bonus for collectors, but at it's core most fans want the DBOX's mainly for the video.

What difference does it make that there aren't on-disc extras?

It all depends on what kind of on-disc extras you're talking about, if you're referring to the extras that were on the original japanese DBOX's like the Bardock and Trunks specials, as well as the small featurette Toei did showcasing the many international dubs of DBZ, then for people that want for the most part complete faithfulness to the source material which in this case would be the DBOX's with all original extras, they feel that their sets are incomplete despite the fact that the initial series was completely released.

[penguintruth]

GOD, they didn't even release the movies box yet, and you're thinking about the singles?

It's just that I don't want to shell out a lot of money for 4 or 5 movies I like and then a bunch that kind of suck.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

GOD, they didn't even release the movies box yet, and you're thinking about the singles?

It's just that I don't want to shell out a lot of money for 4 or 5 movies I like and then a bunch that kind of suck.

Huh, I never thought of it like that. I guess if they were to put out the movies as singles then I'd probably pick up movies 1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11, 15, 16 and 17 and maybe 12. Then again, I might just end up buying all of them.

[OutlawTorn]

Why would they do that it would alienate some fans, I paid full price for mine, it's now worth more, a reprint makes it worth less even though I'm not planning to ever sell mine, they said it would be a limited release and it was.

The Dragon Boxes were a limited release, just like in Japan. However, the Dragon Box footage doesn't need to be a limited release, just like in Japan it was released in a cheaper format. To be perfectly honest, I couldn't care less about the fans a re-issue might alienate because if all they're concerned about is being able to scalp the people who were either unaware of the Dragon Boxes or couldn't afford them at the time, they're just leeches and deserve to have their greed backfire on them.

Unfortunately, I think it's almost a no-win situation for FUNimation in any case. They could do a budget release with all three audio options available on the season sets with the un-butchered Dragon Box footage, but there will still be a segment of people who don't care about the proper aspect ratio and complain that it doesn't fill their 16x9 screens.

I would love for them to release the Dragon Boxes as singles though, giving the people who are missing certain boxes the chance to either just buy those as singles or get rid of their Dragon Boxes and buy the entire release as singles, but at a reasonable price point like $15 for 6 episodes. Kind of like what Toei did in Japan with the Dragon Boxes.

I wouldn't say reverting to singles, as it seems to be a dead practice but something along the lines of what other properties have done with their season sets. Where they were originally deluxe packages in the price range nearing $100, they've been re-released in budget packaging the size of a single standard case. Do the same with the Dragon Boxes, they could even use the same cover images, but it would be a regular insert instead of a box. Replace the Dragon Box logo with the DBZ logo and you've got budget Dragon Boxes without actually calling them "Dragon Boxes."

[ABED]

How are these people leeches? They aren't conning everyone, they are voluntarily trading with people. Maybe it's not the desired price, but it's not against anyone's will. How many people are actually paying those giant price tags to get their hands on the dragon boxes?

[Pretorious]

Just merely asking them for a reprint of DBOX vol 2 might not be enough in their eyes to warrant a reprint, you might need a stronger argument that holds merit for example in your request for a reprint if you were to bring up the fact that they only mentioned that they were a limited print only once before the DBOX's were actually released and never mentioned this fact again until after the fact thus causing confusion about the limited printing among fans that never saw or read the initial announcement, then maybe they might consider reprinting DBOX vol 2, I know it's a long shot but if an email that brings up this fact is worded just right we might stand a chance.

Asking them to reprint the boxes was part of a longer email that explained my story. I basically told them (politely) that I wasn't even aware of the boxes when they came out and when I did become aware, I wasn't even able to buy some of them, even though I was very willing to if they hadn't printed so few of them. In another email, I said I had purchased some of their products, because I wanted to prove I was willing to support them, and begged them to reprint DBox 2. I also think that even though they know my story, it would not be enough for them to take action. One person is not enough to make a difference here. They would have to be bombarded by fans with the same request for them to do it. The whole community would have to help.

Here's what I'm getting at:

I think everyone reading this should send FUNimation an email and tell them what you want! Let them know! They may not get back to you, but at least you will know you are doing your best to make a difference! Companies want to know what customers want, after all.

feedback@funimation.com

I got that email address from this page:
http://www.funimation.com/about-us

What difference does it make that there aren't on-disc extras?

It all depends on what kind of on-disc extras you're talking about, if you're referring to the extras that were on the original japanese DBOX's like the Bardock and Trunks specials, as well as the small featurette Toei did showcasing the many international dubs of DBZ, then for people that want for the most part complete faithfulness to the source material which in this case would be the DBOX's with all original extras, they feel that their sets are incomplete despite the fact that the initial series was completely released.

That's a fair point, but it doesn't bother me, because the U.S. Dragon Boxes were a lot cheaper than Japan's. I consider the U.S. version to be a budget version of the original anyway. Plus, FUNimation still has a chance to release the Bardock and Trunks specials as part of the Movie DBox (though I know they're not theatrical movies) or on their own or as a two-pack or...you know...something.