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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
They putted him at that level. Not saying that the Broli from the movies is that strong, just using the Broli as portrayed in the video games openings.Fox666 wrote:You mean the opening video? Not really sure if you should take that serious.
Since not everyone believes in the Goku X Vegeta, be it something else other than Goku X Vegeta. If it's Goku X Vegeta, we know the winner.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Then what you want him to be?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Absolutely. Even if we take Openings in this game seriously for whatever reason, Vegetto stomps even without an A x B fusion. However why the heck can't he be A x B? You can't just tell us throw away possibilities.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Vegetto vs Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broli (Video Games)
That's the LSS Broli that could fight on par with Super Saiyan Gogeta, but 8 times stronger (since he is SS3 now). Can Super Vegetto beat him?
Rule: Vegetto is not Goku X Vegeta.
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Because if we take the formula literally, Vegetto wins by default.TheMightyOzaru wrote:However why the heck can't he be A x B? You can't just tell us throw away possibilities.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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And? He wins anyway.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Because if we take the formula literally, Vegetto wins by default.TheMightyOzaru wrote:However why the heck can't he be A x B? You can't just tell us throw away possibilities.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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The point of this thread is to explain why A wins B.TheMightyOzaru wrote:And? He wins anyway.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
If I had to choose a different method for Potara fusion it would be A + B x2,000. My method for the fusion dance is A + B x100. Since Broly is about equal to Super Gogeta in the intro, ssj3 Broly would be weaker than Super Vegetto since Ssj3 Broly is about 8x stronger than Gogeta and Super Vegetto is 20x stronger.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The point of this thread is to explain why A wins B.TheMightyOzaru wrote:And? He wins anyway.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Base Vegetto crushes Broly's skull like a grape.
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Damn straight.Rocketman wrote:Base Vegetto crushes Broly's skull like a grape.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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If Broli is stronger than Super Gogeta, than as a Super Saiyan 3 he'd be a fair bit stronger than Super Vegetto. The question is whether his energy drains or not, since there's that whole thing about his ki overflowing and whatnot.
This reminds me of how hilariously inconsistent Broli's power is in Budokai 3's story mode. In his own story mode, he's playing out the events of movie 10 and as such is as strong as he was there. But on a second playthrough, he defeats Gohan, Vegeta and Goku. In Goku and Vegeta's second playthrough, he's about as strong as Pure Boo (although Vegeta is still able to defeat him), and in Gohan's second playthrough he's at his strongest: even Ultimate Gohan can't defeat him, and only succeeds in driving him away. Then in Piccolo's story he's weaksauce as Piccolo beats him. On the other hand, Piccolo also defeats Dabra (and maybe Majin Vegeta) so it's probably just Piccolo being haxed (he gets this treatment almost as often as Broli in the games).
This reminds me of how hilariously inconsistent Broli's power is in Budokai 3's story mode. In his own story mode, he's playing out the events of movie 10 and as such is as strong as he was there. But on a second playthrough, he defeats Gohan, Vegeta and Goku. In Goku and Vegeta's second playthrough, he's about as strong as Pure Boo (although Vegeta is still able to defeat him), and in Gohan's second playthrough he's at his strongest: even Ultimate Gohan can't defeat him, and only succeeds in driving him away. Then in Piccolo's story he's weaksauce as Piccolo beats him. On the other hand, Piccolo also defeats Dabra (and maybe Majin Vegeta) so it's probably just Piccolo being haxed (he gets this treatment almost as often as Broli in the games).
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I have no clue where this idea came from, that SSJ Goteta is equal to Broly? SSJ2 Kid Gohan can probably beat him (Cell saga)DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Super Vegetto vs Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broli (Video Games)
That's the LSS Broli that could fight on par with Super Saiyan Gogeta, but 8 times stronger (since he is SS3 now). Can Super Vegetto beat him?
Rule: Vegetto is not Goku X Vegeta.
Even V-Jump gave Super Gogeta a power level twice as high as Broly. (i think hes 10x stronger IMO)
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Ya. Enough gogeta talk, Vegito kicks ass!Rocketman wrote:Base Vegetto crushes Broly's skull like a grape.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
The video games openings are totally out of proportion, not only does Gogeta fight Broly, we see SSJ2 Gohan fighting Cooler. What kind of a match is that?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:They putted him at that level. Not saying that the Broli from the movies is that strong, just using the Broli as portrayed in the video games openings.Fox666 wrote:You mean the opening video? Not really sure if you should take that serious.
Since not everyone believes in the Goku X Vegeta, be it something else other than Goku X Vegeta. If it's Goku X Vegeta, we know the winner.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Then what you want him to be?
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I'm aware that Broli is ridiculously overpowered in the openings.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I don't know where to place Broly AT ALL now. I normally think he'd get stomped by any character stronger than Mr Boo but after all the crap Broly has appeared in, he could easily be an absolute monster. However, I would still have the likes of base Vegetto, Evil Boo, Ultimate Gohan etc above him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Buuhan VS SSJ3 Gotenks,SSJ3 Goku,SSJ2 Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Kid Gohan,2x SPC,7x Cell Jrs,Android 16,Android 17, Android 18, Android 19, Android 20,Mecha-Frieza
Buuhan = Super Buu with Mystic/Ultimate Gohan, Piccolo, Base Goten, Base Trunks absorbed.
SSJ3 Gotenks is Post-ROSAT, of course.
Dead (with Halo) SSJ3 Goku that is being only as powerful as he was fighting Fat Buu. Only that level of power that he showed when he was fighting Fat Buu.
SSJ2 Kid Gohan during the Cell Games, enraged.
Yes, two Super Perfect Cells.
and 7 Cell Jrs that were born from a Perfect Cell, not SPC. Those 7 in the Cell Games.
They all mob Buuhan/Gohan Buu.
No candy beam, absorptions, self-destructing, blowing up of planets, CIS, PIS, Psychological warfare.
Fight to the death.
Buuhan = Super Buu with Mystic/Ultimate Gohan, Piccolo, Base Goten, Base Trunks absorbed.
SSJ3 Gotenks is Post-ROSAT, of course.
Dead (with Halo) SSJ3 Goku that is being only as powerful as he was fighting Fat Buu. Only that level of power that he showed when he was fighting Fat Buu.
SSJ2 Kid Gohan during the Cell Games, enraged.
Yes, two Super Perfect Cells.
and 7 Cell Jrs that were born from a Perfect Cell, not SPC. Those 7 in the Cell Games.
They all mob Buuhan/Gohan Buu.
No candy beam, absorptions, self-destructing, blowing up of planets, CIS, PIS, Psychological warfare.
Fight to the death.
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Quick summary of the fight: Multiple explosions, Gohan-Boo is the only one left. It's not even a challenge.
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Yeah Buuhan dominates. This will be like an even worse version of Buutenks vs Gohan. Hell Buutenks could probably beat all of these, even if you replace SSJ3 Gotenks with Gohan I'd still be fairly certain Buutenks would slaughter them, so Buuhan is just way to much.
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Gotenks might have enough power/shenanigans to survive for a few seconds until Gohan-Buu gets bored. Everybody else dies instantly.