Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[90sDBZ]

I actually think Schemmel is great at giving a "child-like" delivery as Goku. Like in Fuson Reborn when he first met Janemba and said "You want to fight me don't you!!!" he really sounded like an excited kid going into Toys-R-Us. In recent years he's gotten better and better. In Kai he sounds perfect to me. I very much doubt this new Ocean Goku will match him. Sean's being playing this character for over a decade and loving it while the Ocean/Blue water Goku's just come and go and move on and never perfect the part or grow into it.

Maybe this new Goku will give us a good performance but saying he might beat Sean isn't being realistic imo.

Both Corlett and Kelamis were good but looking back I'd say Corlett was definitely the more convincing actor out of the 2. Kelamis just gets automatic points from some fans for sounding like Nozawa at times.

[songohan619]

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[sangofe]

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We've known this since the 28th of February, through Attitudefan.

[songohan619]

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We've known this since the 28th of February, through Attitudefan.

Even though that tweet was postet today? Did someone use a time machine, or something? o.O

[Attitudefan]

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We've known this since the 28th of February, through Attitudefan.

Even though that tweet was postet today? Did someone use a time machine, or something? o.O

It just so happens that I talked to him on multiple occasions. I wasn't lying.

[penguintruth]

Having rewatched the dub for Tree of Might last night, I have to admit that Kelamis can be a bit inconsistent. He nails certain scenes and fails hard in others. But he definitely had what it took in him. I still prefer him to Schemmel overall, but maybe it's best to say that Schemmel at his best and Kelamis at his best probably tie.

It's kind of weird, Kelamis is better in Dead Zone and World's Strongest.

Anyway, it's good to know Attitudefan's encounters with Brian Drummond weren't a Tyler Durden type of thing.

[Attitudefan]

Having rewatched the dub for Tree of Might last night, I have to admit that Kelamis can be a bit inconsistent. He nails certain scenes and fails hard in others. But he definitely had what it took in him. I still prefer him to Schemmel overall, but maybe it's best to say that Schemmel at his best and Kelamis at his best probably tie.

It's kind of weird, Kelamis is better in Dead Zone and World's Strongest.

Anyway, it's good to know Attitudefan's encounters with Brian Drummond weren't a Tyler Durden type of thing.

I understand your guys' scepticism. I hope I gave you guys some great "insider news"! These were some fun couple of months for sure! I am glad to be alive and living where I live I cannot wait until this is out.
I think if Kelamis was given 10 years of voicing experience as Goku, such as Schemmel, I am sure Kelamis would be the best Goku there is. Remember, Schemmel had very little to no voice acting experience prior to Z. Just see Kelamis in Ed, Edd and Eddy. Given time and care, he is an excellent voice actor!

[dbret12]

You know, Attitudefan, you are really lucky that you met Brian. I'd be really suprised if I met a voice actor in public. And with Peter Kelamis, I really liked his performance in those Uncut Pioneer movies. Just fantastic. Not fully perfect, but great dubs. . The FUNimation dub of those movies just weren't as good as the original Japanese movies and Ocean dubbed movies uncut.

[Attitudefan]

You know, Attitudefan, you are really lucky that you met Brian. I'd be really suprised if I met a voice actor in public. And with Peter Kelamis, I really liked his performance in those Uncut Pioneer movies. Just fantastic. Not fully perfect, but great dubs. . The FUNimation dub of those movies just weren't as good as the original Japanese movies and Ocean dubbed movies uncut.

Hah, never say never!

Nothing is perfect, but I think it was a move in the right direction. Lets hope the new dub is going to be that way too.

[dbret12]

You know, Attitudefan, you are really lucky that you met Brian. I'd be really suprised if I met a voice actor in public. And with Peter Kelamis, I really liked his performance in those Uncut Pioneer movies. Just fantastic. Not fully perfect, but great dubs. . The FUNimation dub of those movies just weren't as good as the original Japanese movies and Ocean dubbed movies uncut.

Hah, never say never!

Nothing is perfect, but I think it was a move in the right direction. Lets hope the new dub is going to be that way too.

I agree.

[90sDBZ]

There's really no way to say how Kelamis would have been if he'd stuck at the role. The thing is that while Schemmel got better over time Kelamis got much worse. The role couldn't have meant as much to Kelamis considering he chose to leave it. He obviously didn't have the passion for it that Sean does so he might never have gotten that good. I'm pretty sure he was still involved in voice work even after leaving DBZ like in Ed Edd n Eddy so he must have considered Goku one of his less important roles which he decided to sacrifice for his comedy career.

Kirby Morrow on the other hand stayed for the remainder of Z and wanted to do Kai too so that shows that he cared about the role more than Kelamis or Corlett. It's too bad he wasn't that well suited for the role. He did sound pretty heroic as Goku but failed at his innocent side and it threw me off how his Goku voice was also the exact same he used for most of his characters. Maybe given time he could have gotten really good. There's just no way to know.

[Kendamu]

There's really no way to say how Kelamis would have been if he'd stuck at the role. The thing is that while Schemmel got better over time Kelamis got much worse. The role couldn't have meant as much to Kelamis considering he chose to leave it. He obviously didn't have the passion for it that Sean does so he might never have gotten that good. I'm pretty sure he was still involved in voice work even after leaving DBZ like in Ed Edd n Eddy so he must have considered Goku one of his less important roles which he decided to sacrifice for his comedy career.

Kirby Morrow on the other hand stayed for the remainder of Z and wanted to do Kai too so that shows that he cared about the role more than Kelamis or Corlett. It's too bad he wasn't that well suited for the role. He did sound pretty heroic as Goku but failed at his innocent side and it threw me off how his Goku voice was also the exact same he used for most of his characters. Maybe given time he could have gotten really good. There's just no way to know.

Back then, he was probably sue to get paid a lot more for working a lot less by going into stand-up comedy. I remember reading in an interview a long time ago that, during the dubbing of those initial DBZ episodes, screaming wasn't considered a "line" and the actors were paid per line. This means that they were doing the toughest part of being a DBZ character for free. On top of that, let's not forget that a lot of Goku's screen time throughout that episodes was, "I gotta train a little harder! Eeegggnnnyyyaaahhh!!!" as a short cut-away from the rest of the cast and whatever main event was going on at the time. Not exactly a well-paid role.

If I had the choice between screaming until your throat bleeds for free or traveling and performing for a live audience and getting paid for it, I'd have probably gone with the comedy gig, too.

[90sDBZ]

There's really no way to say how Kelamis would have been if he'd stuck at the role. The thing is that while Schemmel got better over time Kelamis got much worse. The role couldn't have meant as much to Kelamis considering he chose to leave it. He obviously didn't have the passion for it that Sean does so he might never have gotten that good. I'm pretty sure he was still involved in voice work even after leaving DBZ like in Ed Edd n Eddy so he must have considered Goku one of his less important roles which he decided to sacrifice for his comedy career.

Kirby Morrow on the other hand stayed for the remainder of Z and wanted to do Kai too so that shows that he cared about the role more than Kelamis or Corlett. It's too bad he wasn't that well suited for the role. He did sound pretty heroic as Goku but failed at his innocent side and it threw me off how his Goku voice was also the exact same he used for most of his characters. Maybe given time he could have gotten really good. There's just no way to know.

Back then, he was probably sue to get paid a lot more for working a lot less by going into stand-up comedy. I remember reading in an interview a long time ago that, during the dubbing of those initial DBZ episodes, screaming wasn't considered a "line" and the actors were paid per line. This means that they were doing the toughest part of being a DBZ character for free. On top of that, let's not forget that a lot of Goku's screen time throughout that episodes was, "I gotta train a little harder! Eeegggnnnyyyaaahhh!!!" as a short cut-away from the rest of the cast and whatever main event was going on at the time. Not exactly a well-paid role.

If I had the choice between screaming until your throat bleeds for free or traveling and performing for a live audience and getting paid for it, I'd have probably gone with the comedy gig, too.

Yeah financially speaking it was the smartest move to make no doubt. But on the other hand he gave up the chance to keep being Goku. If I could be Goku then it'd be a no-brainer to keep the role but that's just me. I guess from a professional point of view things look a lot different.

[dbret12]

Peter seemed to lose his touch in the Westwood dub. Which is a shame. He was great in the movies but not in that dub. Whereas Sean Schemmel has really improved since he started. I can understand why many people like his Goku voice. I like it too. As I've said before, I really enjoyed his work as Goku in Kai. He really gave it his all. To me, I can easily mimic his voices. It's all about quality over quantity. And FUNimation went for quality with Kai. I'd sure like to see what Ocean will do.

[Ringworm128]

At this point I'l be fine with whatever voice Drummond uses for Vegeta as long as it sounds like he's in love with himself/the sound of his voice when he talks like in the Saban dub.

[Xagani]

Does anyone think that it's possible that Matt Hill could be the new Goku?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuODPoFWSJs&t=1m47s

[Metalwario64]

Does anyone think that it's possible that Matt Hill could be the new Goku?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuODPoFWSJs&t=1m47s

Latest word was that it was "funny because Kappei Yamaguchi had voiced Goku in the Japanese dub of Evolution", which points to an Ocean actor who's voiced someone originally voiced by Yamaguchi.

For your example, it could mean Richard Ian Cox, as he voiced Inuyasha, who was voiced by Kappei Yamaguchi in the Japanese version.

[90sDBZ]

Drummond needs to change up his Vegeta somehow to compensate for the lack of epic screaming. And I don't mean in a Westwood dub kind of way.

There isn't a small chance that this new Goku could be Jeffrey Watson who voiced him at the end of Blue Water DB by any chance? That wouldn't be a terrible choice actually.

[TheBlackPaladin]

In defense of the Westwood dub...apparently the behind-the-scenes situation with that dub was very chaotic. I can't find the interview anymore, but I read an interview in which Scott McNeil said that, not only were they dubbing it at an ultra-fast pace, but they went through a ton of different directors (he gave a specific number, which I can't exactly remember, but it was in the low end of the double digits).

Of course, that's not an excuse, and I'm not suggesting that people should think more highly of the performances by taking this into account. If you don't like the performances, you don't like 'em. Without going into specifics, there were a number of aspects about the Westwood dub that I found less than satisfactory. However, I like to take all things into account when judging a product. Sometimes the actors are working with directors who have no clue what they're doing, and their lack of good direction translates into the performances.

[90sDBZ]

In defense of the Westwood dub...apparently the behind-the-scenes situation with that dub was very chaotic. I can't find the interview anymore, but I read an interview in which Scott McNeil said that, not only were they dubbing it at an ultra-fast pace, but they went through a ton of different directors (he gave a specific number, which I can't exactly remember, but it was in the low end of the double digits).

Of course, that's not an excuse, and I'm not suggesting that people should think more highly of the performances by taking this into account. If you don't like the performances, you don't like 'em. Without going into specifics, there were a number of aspects about the Westwood dub that I found less than satisfactory. However, I like to take all things into account when judging a product. Sometimes the actors are working with directors who have no clue what they're doing, and their lack of good direction translates into the performances.

I believe I read something similar to that somewhere. I think it was something like 8 or 9 directors they went through. To this day it still frustrates me that the UK were given that awful dub just around the time when FUNi's dub was really picking up. It really intrigues me why they insisted on giving the UK that dub even going so far as to replace the FUNi Fusion saga with the Ocean version after it aired on CNX. From what I understand the Westwood dub was made primarily for the UK and didn't air in Canada until the Cell games. Even as a kid I could never enjoy the Ocean fusion saga after seeing the FUNi version.