Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[Sanity's_Theif]

It's my understanding that he only does it to help Goku achieve Super Saiyan God, rather than fighting in it, yeah.

Makes sense, he can use it but there's no point since he doesn't get a power boost from it, with his ultimate form and all

That would be fantastic. I feel like it'd make for a fun mini-arc if it were a series; Vegeta learning he may have more potential than Goku has, but knowing he can't access it unless he gets a better handle on his own emotions which is something that'd just make Vegeta feel incredibly awkward about. XD

That would be awesome, I really hope this movie was just the beginning of something, like maybe a series of movies like what Berserk is doing or something

[Cold Skin]

Wait, does Gohan fight in SSJ? Or does he just use it for SSG once?

It's my understanding that he only does it to help Goku achieve Super Saiyan God, rather than fighting in it, yeah.

Absolutely, he doesn't need to turn Super Saiyan to fight, but he does need it for once to connect all six Saiyan essences to Goku for the Super Saiyan God ritual.

[JeffJarrett]

If I remember correctly, didn't Saiyans gather around SSJ4 Goku in DBGT, which, at that point he was very powerful for a short moment? It's been a while.

They first gathered around Baby for him to become Super Baby 2 (Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Bra), and later around Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Pan).

[Marco Polo]

If there is a sequel, I hope it actually moves past the last chapter of the manga, with adult Trunks and adult Goten, Uub, Pan, etc.

[Gyt Kaliba]

If there is a sequel, I hope it actually moves past the last chapter of the manga, with adult Trunks and adult Goten, Uub, Pan, etc.

Yes, yes, yes. This needs to happen eventually. We've seen plenty of stories set in the last few years of the story, we need something to finally actually be post-end-of-series again.

[Insertclevername]

If there is a sequel, I hope it actually moves past the last chapter of the manga, with adult Trunks and adult Goten, Uub, Pan, etc.

Yes, yes, yes. This needs to happen eventually. We've seen plenty of stories set in the last few years of the story, we need something to finally actually be post-end-of-series again.

Yes! I'm hoping for teen Goten and Trunks dicking around in high school.

[Saitou Hajime]

Goku could also mean that Vegeta surpassed Goku in his Super Saiyan 2 form (assuming that Vegeta was also in his SS2 form), since last time, they were equals. But I guess I should wait to see the whole scene myself to judge. Besides, it doesn't make much sense for Vegeta to surpass Super Saiyan 3 Goku with Super Saiyan 2, since we never saw Vegeta becoming many times stronger because of his anger. I would buy it if it was SS2 Gohan, but Vegeta? Seems very strange to me.

IMO it was your standard flukish hero feat in response to a desperate situation that is probably not achievable under any other circumstance. It symbolizes Vegeta's complete transition into the hero mold.

[FindKenshi]

I'm... I don't know. My initial reaction is that it sounds like a(n extremely) poorly written fan fiction.. I agree with VegettoEX in calling certain elements of the story "quasi retcons." And, yes, I'm a big enough fanboy to dislike the movie for that reason. That being said, I haven't seen the movie, and until I do, I reserve ALL final judgements. So, though I'm not liking some of the backstory with Super Saiyan God and the like.. it may not be as big a deal as I'm making it out to be, I'll just have to wait and see. My initial reaction was "omg are they serious" but I'm starting to mellow out a tad now I suppose.

[Nex Carnifex]

I sent Toei emails quite a while ago about my ideas for how they could retcon GT and replace it with a better story, my idea was that since there was no plausible way to bring out enemies now that they warriors were so strong, then what better way than introducing a being that solely exists for destruction, or how about there are other universes that exist outside the way of the Dragon Ball globe, and maybe a being from one of those breaks through the walls of the universe and invades...

I think they read my idea guyz

I made a thread for this but it was unfairly locked T_T but I'm a genius ok, and they took my idea, I deserve money

[MCDaveG]

I sent Toei emails quite a while ago about my ideas for how they could retcon GT and replace it with a better story, my idea was that since there was no plausible way to bring out enemies now that they warriors were so strong, then what better way than introducing a being that solely exists for destruction, or how about there are other universes that exist outside the way of the Dragon Ball globe, and maybe a being from one of those breaks through the walls of the universe and invades...

I think they read my idea guyz

I made a thread for this but it was unfairly locked T_T but I'm a genius ok, and they took my idea, I deserve money

I have a friend, he doesn't send mails, but he had thousands of ideas over the years, that came true eventually.
I sugested to him, that he should be sci-fi writer.

[dbzfan7]

Nostal's version based on Kei17's artwork.


So far i'm excited, curious, and a little disappointed.

-Why is Vegeta able to surpass Goku without SSJ3? That is ridiculous unless they are going for some gag joke that isn't meant to be taken seriously.
-I am not a fan of false kaioken god which is what this form feels like. Also how can he use SSJG's power in SSJ. Does this mean he only has SSJ now or like Gohan's Ultimate state all other forms are now pointless for Goku. It just looks too average and not godly as the title suggests. SSJ4 looks more like a Super Saiyan God form then this.
-I love the multiverse being introduced
-I kinda like Bils winning in the end as it changes the old new form sudden change(not as sudden as SSJ was but what ever)=win scenario. I hope Goku is at least equal with Bils and maybe tires out first or something.
-Uisu being the actual strongest kinda changes the whole bils is the strongest statement which is now wrong.
-I am not sure about the Gohan gag as it seems kinda dark for him.
-Baby fetus power activate lol

Maybe Goku could get training from Uisu?

Can't wait to hear more from Kei17.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Uisu being the actual strongest kinda changes the whole bils is the strongest statement which is now wrong.

I figure that part they deemed 'acceptable lying'. I mean, the main fights in the movie are going to be against Bils, whereas Uisu won't be fighting at all, which is a nice enough twist. But how do you market that, even if you did want to reveal it? 'Bils, the God of Destruction, descends! His power is almighty, except for his attendant/master guy who is actually far stronger, but you won't be seeing him fight!'

[dbzfan7]

Uisu being the actual strongest kinda changes the whole bils is the strongest statement which is now wrong.

I figure that part they deemed 'acceptable lying'. I mean, the main fights in the movie are going to be against Bils, whereas Uisu won't be fighting at all, which is a nice enough twist. But how do you market that, even if you did want to reveal it? 'Bils, the God of Destruction, descends! His power is almighty, except for his attendant/master guy who is actually far stronger, but you won't be seeing him fight!'

You probably described the funniest way to parody their announcement

[Draken]

Uisu being the actual strongest kinda changes the whole bils is the strongest statement which is now wrong.

I figure that part they deemed 'acceptable lying'. I mean, the main fights in the movie are going to be against Bils, whereas Uisu won't be fighting at all, which is a nice enough twist. But how do you market that, even if you did want to reveal it? 'Bils, the God of Destruction, descends! His power is almighty, except for his attendant/master guy who is actually far stronger, but you won't be seeing him fight!'

I lol'd at that haha. That's what every villain says though, just a typical bad guy cliche. "Rawr, I am the strongest and blah blah blah!"

[TheMightyOzaru]

Birusu could just mean that Uisu is more skilled and formidable not stronger.

[dbzfan7]

Birusu could just mean that Uisu is more skilled and formidable not stronger.

Didn't Kei17 say Bils described Uisu as stronger than him.

[Avenged]

From what I got Uisu was his master, that doesn't mean he is stronger now. Is Roshi stronger than Goku? Of course not.

[Hellspawn28]

I just home not too while ago since I was at school from 11:00 PM - 7:00 PM. So I think the idea of a official Multiverse in DB is cool and it would be cool if we learn more about it later. I also think the SSjG form looks alright. I was hoping for something more special, but it's better then a gold version of SSj4 in my opinion.

[Gyt Kaliba]

You probably described the funniest way to parody their announcement

I lol'd at that haha. That's what every villain says though, just a typical bad guy cliche. "Rawr, I am the strongest and blah blah blah!"

I live to amuse.

And I'm pretty sure one of Kei's statements said that Uisu was both Bils' master AND stronger than him, but I could be mis-remembering. I want to say I also read that he was only one of a set number of Gods of Destruction, and was the weakest one out of those too, so maybe I'm getting my facts all jumbled up.

[dbzfan7]

I just home not too while ago since I was at school from 11:00 PM - 7:00 PM. So I think the idea of a official Multiverse in DB is cool and it would be cool if we learn more about it later. I also think the SSjG form looks alright. I was hoping for something more special, but it's better then a gold version of SSj4 in my opinion.

I'm the opposite. I think a cliche Gold SSJ4 would have been better. IMO that would look more like a god form then "Super False Kaio-ken God". With Goku being able to use the power in SSJ just seems lame as to avoid and actual form. I may get to like it as I haven't seen the one in the movie, and I got to liking Bils eventually.

I want to say I also read that he was only one of a set number of Gods of Destruction, and was the weakest one out of those too, so maybe I'm getting my facts all jumbled up.

Wait what. . Bils is from a set number of destruction Gods and is the weakest? I wanna see the rest now and see how strong the others are if this is true.