Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[worldmonsters]

I actually think the audience is sometimes even treated a little badly in that they have to explain things an extra time. Especially in the English dub somehow. I recall a scene where King Kai lays out his plan of using Porunga's wish when Guru is revived and then Yamcha not getting it. Or the importance of wishing Piccolo back, that has to be spelled out. It's really simple, and if comes close to being complex we have characters to repeat it to us in simple terms

[Avenged]

Anyways back on topic, I'm surprised not a single clip let alone screen cap of the film has been leaked. Someone was clearly video taping this (with the pre screening event inside the theater).

[dbzfan7]

What 5 year old would understand what's going on.

To be honest when I was 5 years old I had already completed the first two Zelda games. As have a lot of other people I know my age, so I think it's safe to say a 5 year old clearly knows whats going on in any DBZ episode if they watch it enough.

I guess i'm underestimating the demographic.

[Avenged]

Can anyone translate this?



Third Toriyama question.

[VegettoEX]

Yes.

When the issue comes out next week.

[Avenged]

Yes.

When the issue comes out next week.

I like how you're making a draft for this.

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[NeoKING]

One thing I really like is that the Super Saiyan God power-up pretty much wanes off after time, but Goku says that he can still manifest it's power because he knows what it felt like, or something. That's very Toriyama-esque. Toriyama does this weird thing where it's almost as if he's Deconstructing usual Shonen tropes when it comes to strength. He did this at times in the original manga, for instance where SSJ Grade 3's weakness was exposed, and again when Elder Kaioshin tells Gohan that being flashy isn't always the best solution, and that the Ultimate transformation is pretty much Boring, but Practical. In this movie it's like, "The transformation wore off ... Don't worry though, I can still get my groove on, though."

Still, Super Saiyan God itself, however, is Awesome / Boring but / and Impractical.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

12 year olds can handle violent content, in fact they thrive in violent shit, its interesting to them, I played stuff like Quake III arena when I was like 7. I can accept this movie being bloodless, I guess they had to cut down on dark content to get the G rating which probably allowed them to pump money into CGI and stuff, but in a future series I'll get tired of seeing bloodless fights.

Then don't watch it. You need to accept the fact that Dragon Ball is not about the blood, but the story. Dragon Ball is aimed at children, just like Star Wars is aimed at kids. That would obviously mean they are focusing at children, not us. But the fans are still watching the series anyway because they like it. You really need to get over about the blood. Honestly, from all your posts about blood, you made it seem like you want Dragon Ball to be rated-R series.

[Nex Carnifex]

12 year olds can handle violent content, in fact they thrive in violent shit, its interesting to them, I played stuff like Quake III arena when I was like 7. I can accept this movie being bloodless, I guess they had to cut down on dark content to get the G rating which probably allowed them to pump money into CGI and stuff, but in a future series I'll get tired of seeing bloodless fights.

Then don't watch it. You need to accept the fact that Dragon Ball is not about the blood, but the story. Dragon Ball is aimed at children, just like Star Wars is aimed at kids. That would obviously mean they are focusing at children, not us. But the fans are still watching the series anyway because they like it. You really need to get over about the blood. Honestly, from all your posts about blood, you made it seem like you want Dragon Ball to be rated-R series.

I just want it to stay true to how it was originally, instead of becoming more watered down.

[dbzfan7]

12 year olds can handle violent content, in fact they thrive in violent shit, its interesting to them, I played stuff like Quake III arena when I was like 7. I can accept this movie being bloodless, I guess they had to cut down on dark content to get the G rating which probably allowed them to pump money into CGI and stuff, but in a future series I'll get tired of seeing bloodless fights.

Then don't watch it. You need to accept the fact that Dragon Ball is not about the blood, but the story. Dragon Ball is aimed at children, just like Star Wars is aimed at kids. That would obviously mean they are focusing at children, not us. But the fans are still watching the series anyway because they like it. You really need to get over about the blood. Honestly, from all your posts about blood, you made it seem like you want Dragon Ball to be rated-R series.

I just want it to stay true to how it was originally, instead of becoming more watered down.

Dragonball was never about blood. It got bloody sometimes, but most of the time it wasn't. If you want blood and stuff stick to the manga. It also has gore. Not that extreme, but its still there. Also your view would make more sense if it was a series like Hellsing or HNK, but its DB/Z/. I would like more blood and gore sure, but that doesn't affect the overall product for me at all. Thats more of a minor bonus.

[VegettoEX]

Yes, Hokuto no Ken... which ran right before and concurrently with Dragon Ball in Weekly Shōnen Jump .

[JeffJarrett]

Apparently, this fixes/explains GT's all powerful SSJ Goku, right?

Hmm... just an observation. But there are a lot of people trying to tie this to GT when Pilaf has turned into a child and is still a child at the end of the movie. GT doesn't work anymore because episode 1 of GT can't work anymore... So... do you people think that can be explained some other way... or are you just ignoring the fact... I'm just wondering why people are still trying to tie this together with GT?

Pilaf and his gang might have find a mean to age quickly... too quickly.

[worldmonsters]

Apparently, this fixes/explains GT's all powerful SSJ Goku, right?

Hmm... just an observation. But there are a lot of people trying to tie this to GT when Pilaf has turned into a child and is still a child at the end of the movie. GT doesn't work anymore because episode 1 of GT can't work anymore... So... do you people think that can be explained some other way... or are you just ignoring the fact... I'm just wondering why people are still trying to tie this together with GT?

Pilaf and his gang might have find a mean to age quickly... too quickly.

That's actually pretty funny :p

[NeoKING]

You guys who are going on about this blood and nonsense deal need to understand that Dragon Ball now isn't the same Dragon Ball that was in the 90s. The Dragon Ball of today is super light-hearted. If the Episode of Bardock OVA were made in the 80s-90s, do you really think the Plants would look how they did? The franchise was much more hardcore back in the day, but now it's much softer. Gone are the days of the intense and serious conflict of the Namek and Cell sagas, where the sense of drama and hopelessness of the series were on par with other Shonen - now Dragon Ball is pretty much 60% gags and humor and 50% action, giving us 110% of a decent series.

[JulieYBM]

Just my luck, questions are closed right after I think to ask "Was Yamadera any good?"

[Nex Carnifex]

Dragonball was never about blood. It got bloody sometimes, but most of the time it wasn't. If you want blood and stuff stick to the manga. It also has gore. Not that extreme, but its still there. Also your view would make more sense if it was a series like Hellsing or HNK, but its DB/Z/. I would like more blood and gore sure, but that doesn't affect the overall product for me at all. Thats more of a minor bonus.

Nah it makes you feel less cheap and corporate when it is uncut. If blood didn't matter the funimation commercials for the orange bricks wouldn't be so insistent on it being uncensored, uncut, no holds action, FUCK YEAH BITCH. I know it isn't just about violence, but it does add to the feel and for a lot of people it makes it more entertaining whether they realize it, admit it, or not.

You guys who are going on about this blood and nonsense deal need to understand that Dragon Ball now isn't the same Dragon Ball that was in the 90s. The Dragon Ball of today is super light-hearted. If the Episode of Bardock OVA were made in the 80s-90s, do you really think the Plants would look how they did? The franchise was much more hardcore back in the day, but now it's much softer. Gone are the days of the intense and serious conflict of the Namek and Cell sagas, where the sense of drama and hopelessness of the series were on par with other Shonen - now Dragon Ball is pretty much 60% gags and humor and 50% action, giving us 110% of a decent series.

First you're all negative then you say its 110% decent what does that even mean

[dbzfan7]

Dragonball was never about blood. It got bloody sometimes, but most of the time it wasn't. If you want blood and stuff stick to the manga. It also has gore. Not that extreme, but its still there. Also your view would make more sense if it was a series like Hellsing or HNK, but its DB/Z/. I would like more blood and gore sure, but that doesn't affect the overall product for me at all. Thats more of a minor bonus.

Nah it makes you feel less cheap and corporate when it is uncut. If blood didn't matter the funimation commercials for the orange bricks wouldn't be so insistent on it being uncensored, uncut, no holds action, FUCK YEAH BITCH. I know it isn't just about violence, but it does add to the feel and for a lot of people it makes it more entertaining whether they realize it, admit it, or not.

That's an opinion. Most of us seem to not care about blood at all. Funimation commercials mean nothing, if they were truly marketing under that then its childish. Dragonball is not meant to be a bloody brutal show like HNK or Hellsing. Its a light hearted show with adventure,awesome fights, and a good story. Its not OMG he be bleedin, where all da blood at. Blood is a minor emphasis and not a means to an end to make the series any better at all.

[Marco Polo]

So if I understand correctly, Vegeta only knows about Bils because Kaio telepathically told him about it during the movie, right? Still, the discussion between Bils and Uisu seems to imply that Freeza really was an agent of him back in the days. I wonder what's up with that. It would be quite shocking if Freeza was actually just serving a God (who technically isn't evil) rather than being an actual selfish evil overlord.

[Nex Carnifex]

I just know the emphasized that it was uncut, and that was a big reason to buy it, its just gonna be lame if like it comes to america and there's no point to even say its uncut, since its so tame there's nothing to be worried about.

[dbzfan7]

So if I understand correctly, Vegeta only knows about Bils because Kaio telepathically told him about it during the movie, right? Still, the discussion between Bils and Uisu seems to imply that Freeza really was an agent of him back in the days. I wonder what's up with that. It would be quite shocking if Freeza was actually just serving a God (who technically isn't evil) rather than being an actual selfish evil overlord.

I would love Freeza to be an agent of Bils. Though it probably isn't true as Freeza claimed he was the strongest in the universe and meeting Bils would probably have him not saying that. Then again he was delusional when fighting Goku so maybe.

I just know the emphasized that it was uncut, and that was a big reason to buy it, its just gonna be lame if like it comes to america and there's no point to even say its uncut, since its so tame there's nothing to be worried about.

Its uncut on dialogue mainly and not blood. The dialogue is more censored then the blood. The manga has more of what you want in it.