Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[TheMightyOzaru]

Accept it or not,Dragon Ball GT is canon. You dont have to like it but Akira wrote it,check the credits.

Stopped reading after that. Dragon Ball has no defined canon, and Toriyama had nothing to do with GT's story; all he did was draw some concept art for the main characters, the octo-ship, the logo and a couple of images of the trio on some planets.

Yeah no,he hired the whole caste for all3 animes,wrote the whole hap scipt and all concept art-fact.

No. Man you sound familiar. AgatoZ is it?

[zSuper Vegetaz]

Just because you like GT very much that doesn't make it canon.[/quote]
that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)


also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

[dbzfan7]

Just because you like GT very much that doesn't make it canon.
that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)


also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

Yeah I suggest you read the japanese guide on the gt dragonbox. right here Toriyama himself states "For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images"

Click the link for the full thing. Someone else can bring up that Toriyama actually has a part in this movie. Even if you don't count BOG as canon, its got more of a chance then GT.

The whole thing here as follows

Dragon Book Contents
A Message From Akira Toriyama-sensei (view image)001
“My sincerest gratitude to all those who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD box.
Being a lazy bum by nature, I was absurdly happy when I managed to safely finish up Dragon Ball‘s serialization, and finally be released from Deadline Hell. The TV anime people wanted to continue for just a little bit more, but I [just couldn't do] any more than that… And so, I left the Dragon Ball anime completely up to the anime staff, story and all. That was “Dragon Ball GT“.
In car lingo, GT means “Gran Turismo”: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean “Grand Touring”, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.
For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images. However, I was able to rest easy handing things over to the excellent staff, who had continued on Dragon Ball for all this time. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is amazingly skilled, and mastered the peculiarities of my pictures in no time at all, to the point where there were even times when I couldn’t tell whether I had drawn a certain character design, or if he had. For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun‘s designs was “Super Saiyan 4″, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well?
Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.”
– Akira Toriyama

[zSuper Vegetaz]

Yeah no,he hired the whole caste for all3 animes,wrote the whole hap scipt and all concept art-fact.

No he didn't, you're misinformed.

The only thing Toriyama did was provide initial concept art for the series, but they were all based on a premise created by TOEI writers. You can see these images on Kazenshuu site I believe.

But that's it, Toriyama didn't write it, nor did he even come up with the idea for the series.

Despite all this, DBGT doesn't exactly destroy Dragonball as we know it continuity wise. Even in the manga continuity of Dragonball, there are inconsistencies with it's storyline in every place imaginable.

DBGT could easily be "canon" if TOEI or Toriyama decides it is, but as far as we're concerned no one from an official source has even made a Dragonball canon in the first place. However since TOEI likes to encompass the entire series into the product, including DBGT, one can assume that DBGT is accepted as a canon series on a marketing standpoint.

Actually my firend YOU are mis informed,but at least YOU are being mature about it. Akira toriyama is listed as the writer for the jap script,if he didn't write it it would be just as the episode of bardock and other things he didn't write and say""written by(insert imaginary author'sname) and based on akira toriyaa's dragon ball' but it doesn't have it like that,because unlike episode of bardock GT is written by Akira Toriyama. Also one last ting,there's not a single plot hole in all of GT,people just call things plot holes when they don't understand.

[hui43210]

I, ummm, well, can't quite make out what you're saying for sure, but a lot of people don't like gt, does not necessarily make them trolls. edit: GT was written by Toriyama and has no plot holes!????????

[penguintruth]

jap script

Ooooooh boy.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

See, I was thinking the exact opposite here, because almost all of your "facts" are wrong. So you're either trying to troll us, or preferably, just severely misinformed.

I do believe there is information to help enlighten you on Kanzenshuu's main site, but I'm not familiar enough with the new layout to know where to look to find each specific piece. Maybe one of the staffers can overwhelm you with the correct information when they get here...

[TheMightyOzaru]

that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)


also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

Man you sure are full of yourself. Sorry man but you need to get your facts straight. Toriyama already confirms Battle of Gods is "canon" in an interview explaining why King Kai's planet is so small. Again though, it's stated to be part of the official history so any stupid excuse you can up with for retconning this in GT's place is nullified. It's quite humorous you believe what you believe. Akira Toriyama is stated to be author of the Daizenshuus in the Daizenshuus but that's false. It's no different here.

[Luke Groundwalker]

that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)

You're missing the context of here. Akira Toriyama is credited in every credits as "writer," because he wrote the original manga. This includes video games, the anime, the movies, etc.

The doesn't mean that Toriyama wrote the actual scripts here.

also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

What? Toriyama actually did write story, according to his own words. Though he didn't write the script, that doesn't mean he didn't write the basic premise and had a lot of involvement with this project. Toriyama also said that Battle of the Gods was written as if he was continuing the series.

However Battle of Gods has a lot of influence from TOEI too, which Toriyama also stated. So it's likely the TOEI writers and producers fed him ideas and he just turned it into his own.

[kei17]

Yet another silly discussion about cannon, huh? Anyway, I don't recommend this movie to uneducated GT fans because things newly revealed in it makes GT's story kind of absurd.

the jap script

Stop saying jap.

[zSuper Vegetaz]

Just because you like GT very much that doesn't make it canon.
that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)


also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

Yeah I suggest you read the japanese guide on the gt dragonbox. right here Toriyam himself states "For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images"

Click the link for the full thing. Someone else can bring up that Toriyama actually has a part in this movie. Even if you don't count BOG as canon, its got more of a chance then GT.

The whole thing here as follows

Dragon Book Contents
A Message From Akira Toriyama-sensei (view image)001
“My sincerest gratitude to all those who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD box.
Being a lazy bum by nature, I was absurdly happy when I managed to safely finish up Dragon Ball‘s serialization, and finally be released from Deadline Hell. The TV anime people wanted to continue for just a little bit more, but I [just couldn't do] any more than that… And so, I left the Dragon Ball anime completely up to the anime staff, story and all. That was “Dragon Ball GT“.
In car lingo, GT means “Gran Turismo”: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean “Grand Touring”, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.
For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images. However, I was able to rest easy handing things over to the excellent staff, who had continued on Dragon Ball for all this time. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is amazingly skilled, and mastered the peculiarities of my pictures in no time at all, to the point where there were even times when I couldn’t tell whether I had drawn a certain character design, or if he had. For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun‘s designs was “Super Saiyan 4″, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well?
Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.”
– Akira Toriyama

I own the Gt Dragon Box, two in fact (well 1 and a half if you see the condition of the one my friend gave me....) nowhere does it say he didnot write GT,he did write it. it's fact. BOG isn't canon.

People argue GT is non canon because akira didn't write it,it has plot holes,and had no manga,but non of those things are true(accept debatable the manga thing) but al l3 are true for BOG....see my point?(and p.s. I'm in NO WAY hating on bog, i got the date circled on my calender )

[zSuper Vegetaz]

Yet another silly discussion about cannon, huh? Anyway, I don't recommend this movie to uneducated GT fans because things newly revealed in it makes GT's story kind of absurd.

the jap script

Stop saying jap.

nothing in bog can make gt absurd,its non canon,also if saying "jap" offends you somehow,then I'm sorry,that honestly wasn't my intent;/

[Hellspawn28]

This movie is likely to be canon to the manga and not the TV series. If Pilaf is still a kid at the end of the movie then how does he age so fast in 10+ years? I always have (and will) believe that GT takes place it's own community and that it is not canon to anything.

[dbzfan7]

Just because you like GT very much that doesn't make it canon.
that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)


also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

Yeah I suggest you read the japanese guide on the gt dragonbox. right here Toriyam himself states "For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images"

Click the link for the full thing. Someone else can bring up that Toriyama actually has a part in this movie. Even if you don't count BOG as canon, its got more of a chance then GT.

The whole thing here as follows

Dragon Book Contents
A Message From Akira Toriyama-sensei (view image)001
“My sincerest gratitude to all those who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD box.
Being a lazy bum by nature, I was absurdly happy when I managed to safely finish up Dragon Ball‘s serialization, and finally be released from Deadline Hell. The TV anime people wanted to continue for just a little bit more, but I [just couldn't do] any more than that… And so, I left the Dragon Ball anime completely up to the anime staff, story and all. That was “Dragon Ball GT“.
In car lingo, GT means “Gran Turismo”: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean “Grand Touring”, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.
For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images. However, I was able to rest easy handing things over to the excellent staff, who had continued on Dragon Ball for all this time. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is amazingly skilled, and mastered the peculiarities of my pictures in no time at all, to the point where there were even times when I couldn’t tell whether I had drawn a certain character design, or if he had. For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun‘s designs was “Super Saiyan 4″, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well?
Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.”
– Akira Toriyama

I own the Gt Dragon Box, two in fact (well 1 and a half if you see the condition of the one my friend gave me....) nowhere does it say he didnot write GT,he did write it. it's fact. BOG isn't canon.

People argue GT is non canon because akira didn't write it,it has plot holes,and had no manga,but non of those things are true(accept debatable the manga thing) but al l3 are true for BOG....see my point?(and p.s. I'm in NO WAY hating on bog, i got the date circled on my calender )

Its from the japanese GT dragonbox and not the american one. Its also listed as a kanzenshuu resource so its 100% legit. If you keep acting like this your going to get in trouble with the mods. You can ask any one of the site contributors to tell you that is 100% legitimate from Toriyama.

[hui43210]

Just because you like GT very much that doesn't make it canon.
that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)


also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

Yeah I suggest you read the japanese guide on the gt dragonbox. right here Toriyam himself states "For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images"

Click the link for the full thing. Someone else can bring up that Toriyama actually has a part in this movie. Even if you don't count BOG as canon, its got more of a chance then GT.

The whole thing here as follows

Dragon Book Contents
A Message From Akira Toriyama-sensei (view image)001
“My sincerest gratitude to all those who bought this Dragon Ball GT DVD box.
Being a lazy bum by nature, I was absurdly happy when I managed to safely finish up Dragon Ball‘s serialization, and finally be released from Deadline Hell. The TV anime people wanted to continue for just a little bit more, but I [just couldn't do] any more than that… And so, I left the Dragon Ball anime completely up to the anime staff, story and all. That was “Dragon Ball GT“.
In car lingo, GT means “Gran Turismo”: a fast, high-powered car, in other words. But in this case, I had GT mean “Grand Touring”, a great journey, since the scenario was that they’d be running around the universe.
For GT, all I did was just come up with the title, design the initial main cast and some of the machines, and also do a few images. However, I was able to rest easy handing things over to the excellent staff, who had continued on Dragon Ball for all this time. In particular, the animator Nakatsuru-kun is amazingly skilled, and mastered the peculiarities of my pictures in no time at all, to the point where there were even times when I couldn’t tell whether I had drawn a certain character design, or if he had. For instance, one of Nakatsuru-kun‘s designs was “Super Saiyan 4″, which appears in GT, and the picture above is a portrait that I drew looking off it. Did I draw it well?
Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.”
– Akira Toriyama

I own the Gt Dragon Box, two in fact (well 1 and a half if you see the condition of the one my friend gave me....) nowhere does it say he didnot write GT,he did write it. it's fact. BOG isn't canon.

People argue GT is non canon because akira didn't write it,it has plot holes,and had no manga,but non of those things are true(accept debatable the manga thing) but al l3 are true for BOG....see my point?(and p.s. I'm in NO WAY hating on bog, i got the date circled on my calender )

Well I'm pretty sure you're are trolling cuz the facts are simply stacked against your arguments.

[zSuper Vegetaz]

that's right oozaru...the fact he wrote gt makes it canon,if he dosnt write something they dont list him as writer for example-episoe of bardock. it say written by

"Naho Ooishi " AND BASED ON AKIRA TORIYAMA'S DRAGON BALL. but n gt they list him as writer(FOR HE JAPANESE SCRIPT)

You're missing the context of here. Akira Toriyama is credited in every credits as "writer," because he wrote the original manga. This includes video games, the anime, the movies, etc.

The doesn't mean that Toriyama wrote the actual scripts here.

also this movie isn't canon,nor is Akira Toriyama writing it,Yūsuke Watanabe is writing it. Sorry but you liking thismore then GT doesn't change the fact GT is canon and this movie isn't. Both are great though. Hell both are AMAZING! Can't we all agree with this post here, I can't imagine anyone save for trolls would disagree with this...

What? Toriyama actually did write story, according to his own words. Though he didn't write the script, that doesn't mean he didn't write the basic premise and had a lot of involvement with this project. Toriyama also said that Battle of the Gods was written as if he was continuing the series.

However Battle of Gods has a lot of influence from TOEI too, which Toriyama also stated. So it's likely the TOEI writers and producers fed him ideas and he just turned it into his own.

I think YOU'RE missing the point, if he didn't write GT the real writerwould be listed in the credits and it would just say based on his work like the games and episode of bardock do.

He never said he wrote the story, although what you said about him making the "base plot" if you will is true,but the script itself,yeah ...he did not write that,nor does it or will ever be canon.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Guys, it's obvious that he's trolling. Just let the staff deal with him before my favourite forum turns into a typical YouTube comments section.

[dbzfan7]

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/home-video/jp/dragon-box-gt/

That's also the image to go with it as well.

Guys, it's obvious that he's trolling. Just let the staff deal with him before my favourite forum turns into a typical YouTube comments section.

Your probably right.

[TheMightyOzaru]

But it also credits Toriyama as the author of the Daizenshuu's even though he wasn't.... Come up with any excuse you like, you're still wrong =/.

[Luke Groundwalker]

I think YOU'RE missing the point, if he didn't write GT the real writerwould be listed in the credits and it would just say based on his work like the games and episode of bardock do.

But the real world writer is listed in the credits?

He never said he wrote the story, although what you said about him making the "base plot" if you will is true,but the script itself,yeah ...he did not write that,nor does it or will ever be canon.

Toriyama himself has said that Battle of Gods is a continuation of the manga story.