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Sorry about that. Though hearing the words that the manga is filler and Toriyama did the anime is the last straw for my tolerance.
Not a problem. It's all good.
And, yes, I agree that that statement had me scratching my head, but, still, innocent until proven guilty. Given how much wildly inaccurate Dragon Ball information has flown around the web over the past two decades and how many people believe it (as comments on my YouTube videos prove), and how much of it I believed back in 1998-1999, and how strongly I stuck to my wrong, stupid guns back then, I don't find it entirely out of the realm of possibility that he genuinely believes what he says.
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Gaffer Tape wrote:I've never watched the English version before, but I seem to recall it coming up as a point of discussion recently that, due to a mistranslation by FUNimation, the U.S. version of the opening credits does mistakenly list Toriyama as the writer of GT rather than just the author of the source material. Maybe this is why zSuper Vegetaz believes this to be true.
Don't encourage a response. Just let the whole thing go and he will probably be suspended.
Please don't mini-mod me. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and find legitimate solutions to problems to end bickering, and I find it genuinely plausible that that could be a source of the problem here. If it is, maybe it will help. If it doesn't, and he really is a troll, then putting forth that information doesn't hurt anything either.
Well I'd love to continueing debating this in private messages tomorrow but i cant here, some guy saiyjedi or something said i'll be banned for telling the truth,i know kaboom is a admin,i dont kno if this guy is a troll or just a curropted admin,but either way i reported him. and to play it safe until kaboom tells me imma not comment on gt's canon here. sorry. you sea very level headed unlike the trolls here i been yelled at by,so thanks for that. I think by the end of this as long as we both act mature in the debate,we'll both know the truth by the end of it,good night.
zSuper Vegetaz wrote:some guy saiyjedi or something
Now that's it. Ban this guy, please.
Makaioshin wrote:I keep forgetting it will be months before I ever get to see this movie. At least there is still Full Colored DB to look forward to for my DB fix...even if it is only one chapter per week.
I wonder when they will officially announce screenings in overseas. I hope people in other countries will enjoy this great movie as soon as possible.
Makaioshin wrote:I keep forgetting it will be months before I ever get to see this movie. At least there is still Full Colored DB to look forward to for my DB fix...even if it is only one chapter per week.
I wonder when they will officially announce screenings in overseas. I hope people in other countries will enjoy this great movie as soon as possible.
I really hope it gets dubbed. Though if they were to change the soundtrack then forget it. But now a days funimation knows better (for the most part) so who knows.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
zSuper Vegetaz wrote:Well I'd love to continueing debating this in private messages tomorrow but i cant here, some guy saiyjedi or something said i'll be banned for telling the truth,i know kaboom is a admin,i dont kno if this guy is a troll or just a curropted admin,but either way i reported him. and to play it safe until kaboom tells me imma not comment on gt's canon here. sorry. you sea very level headed unlike the trolls here i been yelled at by,so thanks for that. I think by the end of this as long as we both act mature in the debate,we'll both know the truth by the end of it,good night.
Siiiiiiiiiiigh. This is the very last thing I have to say on this subject: Listen to SaiyaJedi. He's actually trying to help you.
(dbzfan7, I think I might owe you a cookie...)
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fogdark wrote:Guys, seriously! first rule of any social media, Do NOT feed the trolls.
Let's get back to discuss Battle of Gods. I wonder why Uisu felt the need to "karate chop" Birusu after the battle, making him sleep for 3 years. What exactly wanted Birusu to do, than made Uisu say, "Ok, that's enough"..
Maybe Birusu was throwing a tantrum, only since he used up all his power it wasn't that destructive?
I still feel like I don't know enough about the character's personality to really be sure.
About him being put out for only 3 years as opposed to the 39 he slept for prior: Three years from now would be the 30th Anniversary of the original DB anime...but that may be reading into things.
I will say this once on this subject to Super Vegeta: How do you think TV series are even written?
Every TV series, including the three different Dragonball anime, are written by a multitude of scriptwriters. One doesn't just sit down and write scripts for every episode. I mean one can, and it has happened, but it's more resourceful to have people write it for you. Even professional writers and producers do this, cause it's efficient and more importantly it gives people jobs.
Even if Toriyama created original premises for each episode and created the story (aka what he did for Battle of Gods), and he didn't, he still didn't write the script of the series. Every episode of Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and Dragonball GT are written by different people because all three series are cheaply made and produced in every way possible.
And Toriyama himself said exactly, that he had no involvement with DBGT other than creating the series name (and the logo), the designs of initial cast, the designs of the robots, and some promotional art.
Hey Kei based on Bils, is there any jokes on him being a cat. I could get a good laugh if there are gags about being a cat.
@Luke He called SaiyaJedi "either a troll or corrupted", he pretty much sealed his fate by insulting an admin.
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Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:Hey Kei based on Bils, is there any jokes on him being a cat. I could get a good laugh if there are gags about being a cat.
There's no jokes on that, but he occasionally acts like a cat and it's kind of humorous. For example, he licks his arms when he wakes up.
I guess jokes on him being a cat may be to cliche.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Well...I duck out for a little while to work on some writing, and it seems a storm has passed through. Hmm.
I know you're closed to questions now kei, but this one is less of a question about the movie, and more one about your own opinions - so I'm going to go ahead and throw it out there. Whether you answer it or not is entirely up to you obviously though. The question is this - is there anything about the movie that you didn't like particularly? Most of it sounds amazing to me, I can't wait to see it, and I can tell you really enjoyed it, but I'm curious if there was anything in particular that didn't sit well with you either.
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dbzfan7 wrote:@Luke He called SaiyaJedi "either a troll or corrupted", he pretty much sealed his fate by insulting an admin.
I think he was referring to Kaboom. And while I'd love to ban him myself, I've actually never had admin powers on the forum. I can't even lock threads that I myself started.
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dbzfan7 wrote:@Luke He called SaiyaJedi "either a troll or corrupted", he pretty much sealed his fate by insulting an admin.
I think he was referring to Kaboom. And while I'd love to ban him myself, I've actually never had admin powers on the forum. I can't even lock threads that I myself started.
Who can ban him? He is annoying.
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dbzfan7 wrote:@Luke He called SaiyaJedi "either a troll or corrupted", he pretty much sealed his fate by insulting an admin.
I think he was referring to Kaboom. And while I'd love to ban him myself, I've actually never had admin powers on the forum. I can't even lock threads that I myself started.
But your SaiyaJedi, that alone earns you admin powers for that name.
TheMightyOzaru wrote:
SaiyaJedi wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:@Luke He called SaiyaJedi "either a troll or corrupted", he pretty much sealed his fate by insulting an admin.
I think he was referring to Kaboom. And while I'd love to ban him myself, I've actually never had admin powers on the forum. I can't even lock threads that I myself started.
Who can ban him? He is annoying.
Somebody call Gandalf, he shall not pass.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I know it's a Majin Buu based food of some kind but what is it?
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours." Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePrinceOfSaiyajins My 3DS Friend Code:
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I know it's a Majin Buu based food of some kind but what is it?
Its Ice Cream
That looks like the stalest ice cream I have ever seen.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
