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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Saiga » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:54 am

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Saiga wrote: Here's a fanon of mine: Naming a technique gives it more power. Just because.
What about Gotenks? :lol:
It doesn't give enough power to make up for charging someone in your base form. :P
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:58 am

I don't know if anyone's touched on this, but Goku doesn't stay with Uub the entire time he trains him. He can teleport and be with his family when he's not training.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Insertclevername » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:59 am

ABED wrote:I don't know if anyone's touched on this, but Goku doesn't stay with Uub the entire time he trains him. He can teleport and be with his family when he's not training.
I'm with that too. It makes Gokuu look less like an ass. :lol:
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:07 am

Yeah, I'm totally there too. I think what GT implies is really stupid, although Toriyama kinda corrects that in Neko Majin Z 5 where we see him kicking it in his house with Uub.

I'm sure he went to Uub's village, stayed there a bit and then came back to his house for further training him, Pan and Z. Later he takes Uub, his most prominent pupil, to Kami's Palace for further training.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:18 pm

DNA wrote:Yeah, I'm totally there too. I think what GT implies is really stupid, although Toriyama kinda corrects that in Neko Majin Z 5 where we see him kicking it in his house with Uub.

I'm sure he went to Uub's village, stayed there a bit and then came back to his house for further training him, Pan and Z. Later he takes Uub, his most prominent pupil, to Kami's Palace for further training.
It's not only implied in GT, Goku states that he was going to stay with Uub for a while. What constitutes "a while" is anyone's guess. I just think it's silly that he feels he can't stay with his family and train with Uub at the same time. He can teleport. Once Goku knows Uub's villagers' ki, then he can teleport to them anytime. Hell, he could train with Uub anywhere, and give a cell phone to the villagers and Uub in case of emergencies. I'm sure he could get Bulma or Mr. Satan to give him a few. Cell phones are cheap in our world, they have to be even cheaper in the Dragon Ball world.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:28 pm

GT implies that a whole five years have passes and Goku never visited his family. In the original manga he says "a while", like you said.
Even so, like you said, he says he'll stay a while at Uub's village, which is perfectly fine even with GT because when GT starts they are at Kami's Palace, not Uub's village. So... I don't really see the point you are trying to make...

Actually, GT doesn't imply, it flat out states that Goku has not seen his family for five whole years. Nothing else implies that apart from GT.
In fact, like I said, Neko Majin 5 seems to be a while after the end of the manga, judging by the looks of the characters, Pan looks older but Goten looks the same, and Goku is seen at his home.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:33 pm

My point was that it's not just GT that implies something stupid, the end of Z (the series that isn't lambasted) implies that Goku stays away from everyone for an extended period of time. I don't think the GT writers were wrong for saying Goku stayed away the entire time, since that's a valid interpretation of what Toriyama was going for.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:50 pm

Whilst I agree that it is open to interpretation, interpreting "a while" with "until I'm done training Uub" is beyond retarded.

Implying that he was gone for "a while" is not stupid, it's just a fact. He was gone for a while, that's it.

In sum, I agree that it is a valid interpretation, I didn't say it was right or wrong, I say it's stupid and unrealistic.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:58 pm

DNA wrote:Whilst I agree that it is open to interpretation, interpreting "a while" with "until I'm done training Uub" is beyond retarded.

Implying that he was gone for "a while" is not stupid, it's just a fact. He was gone for a while, that's it.

In sum, I agree that it is a valid interpretation, I didn't say it was right or wrong, I say it's stupid and unrealistic.
Agreed, but I put the blame on Toriyama, not the GT writers.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:46 pm

ABED wrote:Agreed, but I put the blame on Toriyama, not the GT writers.
Why?

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:49 pm

DNA wrote:
ABED wrote:Agreed, but I put the blame on Toriyama, not the GT writers.
Why?
Because he was the one who wrote the ending where Goku leaves with Uub for "a while" in the first place. It's an ending I never liked. Sure, the GT writers could've written a while to mean a number of different things than they did, but Goku staying away from his family all that time is both consistent with Goku's character and what Toriyama wrote.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:59 pm

ABED wrote:Because he was the one who wrote the ending where Goku leaves with Uub for "a while" in the first place. It's an ending I never liked. Sure, the GT writers could've written a while to mean a number of different things than they did, but Goku staying away from his family all that time is both consistent with Goku's character and what Toriyama wrote.
The only times we know for a fact that Goku stayed away from home was a year when he was dead, then another year after Planet Namek exploded and then seven years when he was dead, all of them good reasons. So no, it's not consistent with Goku's character because he's shown that if he has a choice, he will stay close to home, as shown in the three years of training with Gohan and Piccolo in preparation for the Artificial Humans. The first two years he was training because it was important to train and the seven years he sacrificed himself because he believed it would keep bad guys at bay, which didn't really work.

You not liking the ending doesn't instantly make GT's blunder Toriyama's fault. That would mean that if for example Ooishi Naho wrote a story that takes place after the manga in which Goku never returns to his family ever again, that would be Toriyama's fault for leaving it open to interpretation. Your reasoning is flawed at best and flat out stupid at worse.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ABED » Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:17 pm

After Namek exploded, he stayed away for a year to learn a single technique, and didn't learn any others because it would take too long. Goku doesn't visit his friends for years at a time, so staying away from people for long stretches implies that he's fine being away from people he cares about for extended periods. One could argue that he only stayed on Yardrat for a year in large part due to him being on another planet, whereas staying on Earth would be very different. He'd be in an environment he was comfortable with.

Goku said "a while", so if someone wrote a story where he NEVER returned, that wouldn't fit "a while".

"Your reasoning is flawed at best and flat out stupid at worse."
A simple "i disagree for these reasons" would've sufficed. You are dangerously close to a personal attack.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:37 pm

I personally believed Vegeta impregnated Bulma because after seeing the potential a half-Saiyan/half-human Gohan had on Namek, he decided he wanted a half-human son himself.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ChahikoDBZ » Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:41 pm

Gohan is totally the father of Goten.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by Insertclevername » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:13 pm

ChahikoDBZ wrote:Gohan is totally the father of Goten.
Ew.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DNA » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:24 pm

Insertclevername wrote:
ChahikoDBZ wrote:Gohan is totally the father of Goten.
Ew.
I actually refrained myself from posting that exact same comment xD

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by DBZ Mick » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:31 pm

Goten was conceived on the night prior to the Cell Game rather than born.
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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by CaBrPi » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:42 pm

1. Eventually, the Namekians recovered from their double-almost-extinction, and established a thriving trade-based economy, and New Namek became a major galactic commerce hub.

2. See Kaboom's GT Revised: Cataclysm

3. Goku didn't totally abandon his family while training Oob. He also trained Pan.

4. Cargo is a warrior-type Namekian, and took Nail's place as the Grand Elder (now Muri)'s bodyguard, once he was old enough.

5. Earth eventually also joined the galactic community, and South City became a renowned resort city frequented by members of many alien races.

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Re: Your inside "fanon" things

Post by ChahikoDBZ » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:13 pm

DNA wrote:
Insertclevername wrote:
ChahikoDBZ wrote:Gohan is totally the father of Goten.
Ew.
I actually refrained myself from posting that exact same comment xD
It was mostly a joke lmao. I still think it would be possible.
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