Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Goku. They should be giving the powerup to him to increase their chance of beating Beers.

But Gohan would still loose. Let's face it, Gohan is useless as a hero. The main villains he defeated are Cell, Bojack, and Broli, and in all cases he needed Goku's encouragement or he would be dead. He failed to defeat Cell & Boo when they were much weaker than him, and allowed both of them (accidentally) to power up & become equal (Cell) or stronger (Boo) than him.

So, let's just leave it to Goku.

That's an incredibly biased description.

I wasn't entirely serious in that post. But it's a fact that Goku is a better hero than Gohan.

[SSJ6Goku]

Akira Toriyama Interview (Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods)

Toriyama forgot what SS3 looked like

[Saiga]

I wouldn't call that a fact... he doesn't kill Boo when he had the chance because he wanted the boys to do it with fusion. That is not the action of a good hero.

[Avenged]

Akira Toriyama Interview (Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods)

Toriyama forgot what SS3 looked like

Always with the Saiyan Island....

Notice how they put shit like "(Saiyan Island: a chill and relaxed, but confident)" inside this interview? So now they're trying to "watermark" text...

[Makaioshin]

Akira Toriyama Interview (Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods)

Toriyama forgot what SS3 looked like

Looks like Julian has some competition!? Probably not...but it is good that a site isn't just rewording a Kanzenshuu translation for once even if the end result(possible misinformation) is pretty much the same.

[Marco Polo]

Akira Toriyama Interview (Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods)

Toriyama forgot what SS3 looked like

That's old news dude.

And Avenged, I didn't notice it because I didn't click the link as that would to give them hits and ad money I'm glad Kanzenshuu doesn't have ads.

[Avenged]

Nothing wrong with ads, even the best of sites such as ANN use them. But a simple view on their website won't give them any revenue.

[Marco Polo]

Well Kanzenshuu doesn't.

[SaiyaJedi]

Looks like Julian has some competition!? Probably not...but it is good that a site isn't just rewording a Kanzenshuu translation for once even if the end result(possible misinformation) is pretty much the same.

I wonder who they stole it from, though.

[Saiga]

Oh, so when he said he pictured Super Saiyan 2 as something with long hair, he was thinking of the design of Super Saiyan 3? That makes sense, it doesn't surprise me that he'd forget Super Saiyan 2's design when it's not a drastic difference like Super Saiyan 3 is.

[DerekPadula]

Julian, it says at the top, "Saiyan Island fan Elizabeth Bonis Murayama was kind enough to take the time to translate what Toriyama-sensei had to say using a scan from the magazine." So I don't think they stole it from anywhere. Elizabeth must be in Japan and grabbed a copy of the magazine.

Overall I found the interview entertaining, but I'm very disappointed with the interviewer. What a ridiculous set of questions. Like one of the comment's on the page said, how often do we get an interview with Toriyama, and you ask those questions? I can think of a dozen questions off the top of my head that would be better.

[Avenged]

Julian, it says at the top, "Saiyan Island fan Elizabeth Bonis Murayama was kind enough to take the time to translate what Toriyama-sensei had to say using a scan from the magazine." So I don't think they stole it from anywhere. Elizabeth must be in Japan and grabbed a copy of the magazine.

Overall I found the interview entertaining, but I'm very disappointed with the interviewer. What a ridiculous set of questions. Like one of the comment's on the page said, how often do we get an interview with Toriyama, and you ask those questions? I can think of a dozen questions off the top of my head that would be better.

"Using a scan from the magazine". <<< That right there says stolen.

[Saiga]

I don't see how it does, as Derek said the scan could have also come from her.

Is it just me, or do Toriyama's answers to some questions seem a little... odd? Like he's just adding things that weren't related to the question?

[DerekPadula]

I meant the translation. If they bought a copy of the magazine or didn't is irrelevant.

[Saiga]

I meant the translation. If they bought a copy of the magazine or didn't is irrelevant.

Oh, right.

[SaiyaJedi]

Julian, it says at the top, "Saiyan Island fan Elizabeth Bonis Murayama was kind enough to take the time to translate what Toriyama-sensei had to say using a scan from the magazine." So I don't think they stole it from anywhere. Elizabeth must be in Japan and grabbed a copy of the magazine.

Overall I found the interview entertaining, but I'm very disappointed with the interviewer. What a ridiculous set of questions. Like one of the comment's on the page said, how often do we get an interview with Toriyama, and you ask those questions? I can think of a dozen questions off the top of my head that would be better.

Fair enough. I hadn't looked at the page itself, since I haven't translated the interview yet. But this is the problem when liars and crooks try to go legit: people's first instinct is to doubt them. Boy who cried wolf, and all that.

[TheSonofKakarrot]

Bils is leagues above everyone that has appeared before him this includes GotenksBoo and GohanBoo and maybe even Vegetto himself, so Unlocked Potential or not the result would be the same for Gohan (Ass Whooping).

Not so much the whooping that has me disappointed, rather the transformation of Super Saiyan and the apparent "quick fix" of Gohan's hair and aura being changed at the last minute. Granted, I've witnessed from this thread that its left up to debate/interpretation but IMO, when comparing the original trailer and that fight scene, the animators originally intended for him to be SSJ.

Not to mention, didn't someone mention SSJ Vegeta holds his own against Bills for quite some time?

In any case, I'll be watching the movie with plot twists etc in the back of my mind. My best friend is big on Naruto and now "hates" Dragonball and this is one more thing he can nitpick when we debate which is why I'm upset

EDIT: Seems like people are reading my post wrong. No where in my post did I state Gohan getting thrashed is a loophole. I mentioned the Gohan inconsistencies (i.e. Super Saiyan) can possible be a loophole.

Well the thing is, if your problem with the movie is a technical issue involving Gohan that still sort of follows the idea that Ultimate Gohan should put up a better fight than everyone else. At least thats the feeling I get from people when they say "the animators went into the project with SSJ Gohan in mind".To me that translates to "if they knew better they would have gone with Ultimate Gohan from the start of production and he would've put up a better fight than any else except SSJGod Goku". If any thing the only things that were on the producer's mind was God of Destruction and Super Saiyan God, Toriyama said so himself, so with that said Bils was going to flatten everyone with EASE anyway regardless of who was stronger than who in the Boo arc.

Now when it comes to Vegeta surpassing Goku, none of us accept Kei17 has seen the movie and he's done answering questions so don't bother, so we don't know how far that really goes, maybe its just temporary where Vegeta managed to take Bils by surprise but then again theirs early concept shots of Vegeta getting his ass handed to him seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONUQwO3Gz4 . Going by past events excluding the movies Vegeta is known to be able to take a beating.

Also I think its still way too early for any of us to debate stuff about a movie we've never seen lol, we only caught a glimpse of what 30 seconds of consistent footage? and the movie it self is 85 minutes long.

As it stands from what we know, not only does the movie not resolve the Goku vs Gohan debate it sorta adds more fuel to the fire .

Personally I'm more inclined to believe that 1.There are no real limits in DB, 2. Goku wasn't that far off from Gohan in the Boo arc and 3. It's speculated that its been between 2 to 5 years since Kid Boo's death,and we know Gohan doesn't train in peace time but Goku does so I'm gonna say he's stronger by this point and in the beginning of the movie he literally gets plucked by Bils and is defeated.

I'm not sure what the general consensus is around here in that regard but my issue has nothing to do with "If he was Ultimate he'd put up a better fight." My issue is his ability to turn Super Saiyan at all, which was the movies original intention IMO, especially since he does turn at some point in the movie, just not for fighting purposes (correct me if I'm wrong). Though, I can see where someone can make a case that because they may have made a last minute change to Gohan's hair, then he is indeed fighting with the intention of being an SSJ but only appearing "Mystic" because there was an error made and not with his "mystic strength" if that makes sense. But again, that's not my gripe. And the gripe is not major enough to cause me to not see this day 1. But it just goes with the list of continual inconsistencies that I have to defend when it comes up in debate by the Dragonball "haters."

[penguintruth]

Saiyan Island fan

Psh, like those exist.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I can understand the annoyance with Saiyan Island stealing info and such without giving credit, but do they really deserve to be a forum punching bag? No offense, but some of this is starting to come off like forum-V.S.-forum elite-ism to me. 'Our forum and community is SO much better than yours!' and so on. I'm sure it's not meant to come off that way but...well, there it is.

On topic, ever since someone brought it back up again, I'm still wondering what those stick things in the background of the one group shot (the one with Goku sitting on the ground) are. They do look kinda like spaceship legs, akin to Kami's ship sorta, but why would they need a ship at that point?

[NeoKING]

Toriyama is a lot more consistent than I give him credit for. He really does usually introduce new characters in twos: Goku & Bulma, Yamcha & Puar, Kami and Mr. Popo, Tien and Chaotzu, Nappa & Vegeta, Androids 19 & 20, Babidi & Dabura, etc.