If you could change the course/result of a fight...

[Duo]

I wish the fights against Broly had been less one sided. Broly's beef was with Goku, and so I would've liked it if it was a titanic one on one fight between the two. Goku wins in the end but the comeupance is lacking.

It's been 8 years since I've been able to finish that movie without falling asleep. I don't feel any drama from any of it after Broli powers up. One-sided fights only work when they're relatively brief and when there is a meaningful build up behind it. The end of movie 9 does that so well it makes my skin ache with glee.

[RandomGuy96]

I'd change the fight between Dabura and Gohan so it looks more obvious that Dabura is winning.

[Duo]

I'd change the fight between Dabura and Gohan so it looks more obvious that Dabura is winning.

I'm on board with that. There could have been more done there in general (and I don't recall the filler).

[Godo]

I'd change the fight between Dabura and Gohan so it looks more obvious that Dabura is winning.

In the manga at least, I believe that it's pretty obvious that Gohan is struggling more.
Now it may be because of that he is fighting a brand new enemy with new ability (such as accounting with his magical powers), or simply a stronger opponent.
Even though both are winded, to me it seems pretty sure that Gohan is the one losing, and to add Dabra's comment that if he would fight Gohan again, he would win.

I bet though, that if Gohan let out his anger like when he did with the Kamehameha against Buu's ball, he would have a chance to win.

[Amuro Ray]

The first two Brolly movies. I was actually very happy with the ending of the second movie, but with an enemy that powerful, I wish there was more fighting and less filler. Watch the Deadzone - it is actually one of my favorites has fighting throughout the movie - and even a wonderfully choreographed tag team with Goku and Piccolo that hasn't been matched since.

Goku Vs Fat Buu - I feel that this was a waste of time - Instead of having Trunks escape from an Enemy who wasn't chasing him, I would have changed the situation to just that - Goku kicking the crap out of Fatt Buu until Trunks could have gotten away. It just seems silly that Goku would have wasted his time on Earth to show off.

[ATEMVEGETA]

I would love to see Super Saiyan Vegeta fight with Freeza!!

[RandomGuy96]

This isn't really the "fights you wanted to see?" thread, it's changing existing fights... besides, Vegeta still would've lost.

[Scott]

One of the fights i would slightly change is Vegeta being flattened by Oozaru Gohan, i think it would have been better if Vegeta had been taken down by the Spirit Bomb.

[ATEMVEGETA]

besides, Vegeta still would've lost.

Are you drunk? Or you are just trolling me?

[Saiga]

besides, Vegeta still would've lost.

Are you drunk? Or you are just trolling me?

Option 3: Freeza fanboy.

[Godo]

Vegeta would still have had power on par with Freeza's. If he was above 2,000,000 at least in base (which is pretty safe to assume).
Freeza would have still burnt out his power, just like he did against Goku, and Vegeta would have won.

[RandomGuy96]

Are you drunk? Or you are just trolling me?

...maybe. But again, this isn't the "fights you wanna see?" thread, it's a thread for what you'd want to be different about actual fights that occurred. But I actually do genuinely think that Vegeta would've lost, especially if Freeza decided to make sure that there was a time limit by shooting a blast into the planet core like the last time he confronted a Super Saiyan.

Vegeta would still have had power on par with Freeza's. If he was above 2,000,000 at least in base (which is pretty safe to assume).
Freeza would have still burnt out his power, just like he did against Goku, and Vegeta would have won.

Nothing's written in stone. Assuming that Vegeta could beat someone stronger than him in under 5 minutes. Assuming that a killing blow from the guy stronger than him doesn't happen in that time. Assuming that Freeza's 100% power actually drains him (was that ever really confirmed? I thought it was implied in the manga that it was just due to his previous injuries and general exhaustion from fighting all day). All those factors are working against him, really.

Option 3: Freeza fanboy.

Nope. Proof? I didn't come into this thread and say Freeza should've beaten Goku, like the guy who said that Vegeta should've beat Freeza and Cell instead of Goku and Gohan.

[ATEMVEGETA]

Vegeta FOUGHT Freeza! It's not a "fight I wanna see" the way you mean it. The battle happened and I just wanted to change the result by transforming Vegeta into Super and kick Freezas butt!! And IMO, he could kick Freeza's butt coz Freeza just CAN'T win against his worse fear......a Super Saiyan!!!!

Cheats like blowing up the planet shouldn't be counted. If so then Freeza should be able win any battle against an opponent that can't breathe in space. Becides he tried that once when he confronted a Super Saiyan and it failed, why to work successfully now?

[Saiga]

Option 3: Freeza fanboy.

Nope. Proof? I didn't come into this thread and say Freeza should've beaten Goku, like the guy who said that Vegeta should've beat Freeza and Cell instead of Goku and Gohan.

Well, there's the complaining about Trunks defeating Freeza, complaining about Trunks catching the Supernova (even asking TFS not to do that bit), trying to arguing that Freeza is a hero for killing the Saiyans, being delighted over the idea that Freeza would beat SS Vegeta, etc, etc... there's plenty of proof there.

[RandomGuy96]

Vegeta FOUGHT Freeza!

Oh right, I almost forgot. Best scene ever.

. Becides he tried that once when he confronted a Super Saiyan and it failed, why to work successfully now?

Because Vegeta is way weaker than Goku.

there's plenty of proof there.

I think in a lot of circumstances you're confusing my hatred of Vegeta and minor dislike of Trunks for a love of Freeza . My favorite villain is actually King Piccolo.

there's the complaining about Trunks defeating Freeza,

That was just a bad way to introduce a character in general. It's not the only part of his introduction I didn't like; it sounds like something straight out of fanfiction.

complaining about Trunks catching the Supernova (even asking TFS not to do that bit

Extension of me not liking that scene in general. Plus it makes little sense.

trying to arguing that Freeza is a hero for killing the Saiyans

I didn't argue anything. I know he's not actually a hero, I just wanted to point out that he probably saved the galaxy a lot of trouble that way.

being delighted over the idea that Freeza would beat SS Vegeta

Because

1. He would and

2. I don't really like Vegeta.

This is off-topic anyway. Another thing I'd change: I'd make the fights between Zarbon and Vegeta a lot closer, both times.

[Deep Thought]

I always thought that the Saibamen were a touch too superfluous and kind of reeked of filler, I would have just had everyone fight Nappa. I get that they existed to show the prowess of all the fighters but I think their fight against Nappa showed how much more powerful they had become. Also, I can't help but feel that the characters of Yamcha and Raditz would have retained a lot more dignity if the Saibamen were omitted. So have have the fight be Nappa vs everyone immediately with no Saibamen.

For the Freeza saga, not much I can think of, but I agree with Duo that the third form didn't really need to exist. Again, I get that narratively it had a place in having Freeza beat Piccolo without him just being in another dimension like he was with his Final form, but there were a hundred other ways Toriyama could have went about that. Also I thought the Dodoria vs Vegeta fight, and the character of Dodoria, served no purpose other than to inform Vegeta of his planet's true fate but this isn't "If you could remove content" so I digress.

I think that there could have been a better way of going about displaying Trunks' strength, and having the previous "big bad" serve as a punching bag was kind of lame. I also agree with the idea of it just being King Cold, although the idea of using Freeza's family still feels a little cheap to me.

I'm torn about the Cell Jrs, as there are some cool things about them. I still think it would be more satisfying if they all teamed up on Cell just so Cell could personally beating the crap out of all them with Gohan watching from the sidelines, I just feel like that setup would have so much potential. On the other hand, I like how the Cell Jrs are an amalgamation of the Saibamen (narratively) and Piccolo Daimao's spawns, as it accentuates the idea of Cell being a combination of everything the Z Fighters have fought so far. Also, Super Sayajin 2 Gohan's beat down on them was extremely satisfying. So, again, I'm torn.

I'd change pretty much every fight in the Buu Arc except for Majin Vegeta vs Majin Buu and Gotenks vs Super Buu. Maybe it's nostalgia bias (I saw far more of the Buu Arc then any other arc in the series as a kid, mostly incidentally), but I can't help but feel that the anime did a better job with many of the fights (Buu vs Super Sayajin 3 Goku, Buu vs Vegetto, and especially Majin Vegeta vs Goku immediately spring to mind). That really is a first, honestly.

[ATEMVEGETA]

Because Vegeta is way weaker than Goku.

And that's why he DIDN'T transformed into SS. If Vegeta should be able to transform into SS he would be more-or-less in the same power level as Goku. Resulting the end of Freeza!

[Saiga]

I think in a lot of circumstances you're confusing my hatred of Vegeta and minor dislike of Trunks for a love of Freeza . My favorite villain is actually King Piccolo.

Oh, okay then xD

[Godo]

Nothing's written in stone.

In this case, yes it is.
If for a whole arc everyone blurts out "Wurr wurr Freeza only fears the Super Saiya-jin!", and Vegeta mentions the legend of a Super Saiya-jin, and Freeza's end is at the hands of a Super Saiya-jin, then Vegeta will win no matter what as a Super Saiya-jin.
Because that's how the arc was written, the end was supposed to contain the Super Saiya-jin. It doesn't matter if they switched between Super Saiya-jin Goku and Super Saiya-jin Vegeta.

If Vegeta for some odd reason became a Super Saiya-jin, in the story, he would win as a Super Saiya-jin.

I too dislike Vegeta as a character, but a Super Saiya-jin is a Super Saiya-jin. Any Super Saiya-jin can beat Freeza, unless Freeza himself became a Super Saiya-jin.

[RandomGuy96]

Any Super Saiya-jin can beat Freeza, unless Freeza himself became a Super Saiya-jin.

From a storytelling perspective, I can see what you mean that they'd never let a Super Saiyan lose to Freeza. But from an in-universe power perspective? Hell no. There are a few Super Saiyans Freeza could beat but just never fought.

And that's why he DIDN'T transformed into SS. If Vegeta should be able to transform into SS he would be more-or-less in the same power level as Goku. Resulting the end of Freeza!

No... nothing says you have to be at 3 million to transform. Vegeta could simply have transformed at his power of 2 million at the time and Freeza would've killed him.