The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kamiccolo9]

Well, Vegeta sensed Cell's energy and still showed up to fight. Aside from when he has no choice, Vegeta doesn't typically jump into fights he knows he can't win. I think he might have a chance, but could possibly be suprised and overwhelmed by Cell's techniques.

[dbzfan7]

Piccolo vs Vegeta at equal power levels.

You can bracket different saga's in your answers if you feel results would change depending on the saga

[Kamiccolo9]

Piccolo vs Vegeta at equal power levels.

You can bracket different saga's in your answers if you feel results would change depending on the saga

Saiyan Arc- Vegeta. Piccolo's still weak enough that his regeneration uses up a significant amount of energy, and Vegeta would be willing to go to greater extremes to win.
Namek Arc- Same as above. Maybe the addition of Nail's battle experience (maybe?) could make it more even, but I still see Vegeta winning.
Cell Arc- Assuming SSJ is still equal, I see Piccolo winning this one. This was when Vegeta's arrogance spun out of control, and Piccolo is strong enough to regenerate limbs with no noticible loss in energy.
Buu Arc- Not sure. By the end, Vegeta has accepted Goku's superiority, which I think is a huge step in becoming a better fighter. Without his obsession, he can go back to being the fighting genius he was in the early parts of DBZ. Piccolo, though, has gained Kami's wisdom, and is considered to be the most intelligent of the fighters. I can see this going either way, with them possibly taking each other out. Would be an awesome fight though.

[dbzfan7]

Piccolo vs Vegeta at equal power levels. (That includes SSJ and SSJ2 when they happen)

You can bracket different saga's in your answers if you feel results would change depending on the saga

[Hellspawn28]

• Goku fought equally with Oob (who should be stronger than Pure Boo) in base

Ubb never shown anything that great to begin with. I think Ubb could be around SSj3 level, but I doubt he can take down Super Buu. I don't view Ubb stronger then Buuhan until he fuses with Fat Buu.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Piccolo vs Vegeta at equal power levels.

You can bracket different saga's in your answers if you feel results would change depending on the saga

To the death or not? If it's to death, Piccolo has regeneration so he has the advantage there. Vegeta does seem smarter though so that's a tough call. I'd like Vegeta to win though. Man I really wish Piccolo was as useful as the Saiyans these says .

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Ubb never shown anything that great to begin with. I think Ubb could be around SSj3 level, but I doubt he can take down Super Buu. I don't view Ubb stronger then Buuhan until he fuses with Fat Buu.

Raged Oob in the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai was about as strong as Pure Boo. Since Goku trained him for 5 years, I assume that not only Oob mastered his power (meaning that he can use it without getting angry), but he also got even stronger than that.

And as for Super Oob, he should be above Gohan Boo. Goku said that Super Baby had the strongest ki he had ever felt (meaning that he was stronger than Gohan Boo), and Super Baby 2 was even stronger than that. Super Oob wasn't shown to be much weaker than Super Baby 2, so that means that Super Oob is much stronger than Gohan Boo.

[Saiga]

Going to give this to Vegeta. Namekian regeneration is barely an advantage and Vegeta's a combat genius and all.

[RandomGuy96]

I'd say Piccolo. Anyway:

Spopovich and Yamu vs Chi-Chi.

[Kamiccolo9]

Spopovitcha and Yamu. What can Chi-chi do to them that they wouldn't recover from?

[RandomGuy96]

Decapitate them? I'm pretty sure her power level is 130 which is pretty ridiculous. I don't see why Spopovich and Yamu would be that high.

[Kamiccolo9]

Decapitate them? I'm pretty sure her power level is 130 which is pretty ridiculous. I don't see why Spopovich and Yamu would be that high.

I don't think she's quite that high anymore. She's a lot older, and the only time we ever here of her training is when Goten says she taught him. And while I generally support the Daizenshuu levels, some of the ones from Dragonball don't really make that much sense to me. Chi-chi never does anything to put her on that level of power, which is higher than super-human martial artists such as Namu and Chappa. I have her around 40, Videl at 35, and Spopovitch at 38 (not sure where to put Yamu, but he should be in the same area as Spopovitch). Which would put her stronger, but not enough to offset the "regeneration" that was shown. Against both, I see her getting beat up pretty badly.

[Saiga]

They can fly and use ki blasts, plus they can survive broken necks. Either one would be enough to stomp her.

[rereboy]

Raged Oob in the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai was about as strong as Pure Boo.

Nothing in the fight even suggests that Oob was more than an incredible strong kid human that could somewhat keep up with base Goku... Which is amazing on itself.

Personally, I don't get why people think that Oob being the reincarnation of Kid Buu would make him as strong as Kid Buu right then and there. He doesn't even know how to use his power, he can't fly and he's still just a kid. I think he would need to at least have some training and properly learn how to use his power and how to tap it before he is actually as strong as Kid Buu was.

So no, in my opinion, at that moment in time he is much weaker than Kid Buu. Much weaker. After some training, sure, he is as strong as Kid Buu was and by the end of the training even stronger than Kid Buu was, or much stronger than Kid Buu.

So, conclusions like Goku's base can keep up with Kid Buu by the end of Z seem way too forced to me.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Nothing in the fight even suggests that Oob was more than an incredible strong kid human that could somewhat keep up with base Goku... Which is amazing on itself.

Personally, I don't get why people think that Oob being the reincarnation of Kid Buu would make him as strong as Kid Buu right then and there. He doesn't even know how to use his power, he can't fly and he's still just a kid. I think he would need to at least have some training and properly learn how to use his power and how to tap it before he is actually as strong as Kid Buu was.

So no, in my opinion, at that moment in time he is much weaker than Kid Buu. Much weaker. After some training, sure, he is as strong as Kid Buu was and by the end of the training even stronger than Kid Buu was, or much stronger than Kid Buu.

So, conclusions like Goku's base can keep up with Kid Buu by the end of Z seem way too forced to me.

Goku's statement imply that Oob's true power is equal with Pure Boo's true power (check the Strength Checker). Of course, I don't believe that base Goku is stronger than Boo arc SS3 Goku. The fight was very short, and since the Daizenshuu state that Oob's power increased when he threw the Kiai, I believe that Oob wasn't using his true power yet when he was fighting Goku, but he unleashed it with his final Kiai. That's my opinion on this.

[RandomGuy96]

Yajirobe (Saiyan Saga) vs Super Garlic Jr. (Pre-Raditz).

[Kaboom]

Without factoring in Garlic's immortality, then Yajirobe would win. I consider Garlic Jr as the movies equivalent of Raditz but scaled down in power, given how Goku and Piccolo were able to overcome him with their own power. So I'd put Garlic somewhere right around 900-1000, just like Yajirobe is at officially 970.

All that said, I think Yajirobe's skills with the sword would let him mince Garlic pretty handily.

[RandomGuy96]

Oh yeah. Disregarding immortality.

[RandomGuy96]

Hmmm, what about... Yajirobe vs a saibaman.

The saibaman has a 200 point lead on Yajirobe, and Yajirobe can't fly, but he can run and jump extremely fast and high, was shown to be pretty tank-y, is probably more skilled than the saibaman (they had no training and just seemed like brutes who rabidly slashed and blasted) and can kill opponents much stronger than him with that sword. Saibamen are also shown to be pretty fragile for their power levels, but they can fly and use basic energy blasts. Who wins?

[Saiga]

Garlic Junior would win if he can open the dead zone portal before Yajirobe cuts him down, but I don't think he'd last long enough. He'd probably be killed before realising he needs it.

The Saibaiman would be more difficult. Yajirobe's got his sword, but the Saibaiman can spit acid that could melt his blade (along with him). With their extra power and flight, it'd probably defeat him.