Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:47 am

Anyone else think they're gonna come down with post-BOG blues after the hype of the film has dyed down?

It's hard to imagine DB fandom without it even though I've been around for at least four years previously. With the release of this movie, I feel like I've contributed so much more to this forum by scrolling through various Japanese blogs, Twitter accounts, Google searches and 2Ch boards digging up news to post in this thread than I had previously.

This film has made my post count jump pretty significantly, proven by the fact that I've made 300+ posts in this thread. :shock:

Honestly, I'm really gonna miss the build-up to this film. Coming home to new Battle of Gods information every day was an excitement I hadn't felt around Dragon Ball since, I dunno, ever? It's made me appreciate this site and the podcast so much more!

A new DB film was something I'd been wanting since I was around 9, and I finally got my wish; without having to collect all seven Dragon Balls too!

With this movie's performance, I'm certain that there'll be more DB stuff around the corner- particularly with some important anniversaries coming up. Let's just hope that there's another film in the pipeline as well, but maybe not too soon, if you know what I mean. :wink:

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Marco Polo » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:30 am

NeoKING wrote:Super Saiyan God is thinner probably because Toriyama's current art style now focuses primarily skinnier characters. That was probably how he sent the design in for them in the first place and they just decided to run with it out of respect rather than change it to a more "Toei-style" thing; like, compare Toriyama's SSJ4 and Toei's SSJ - Toriyama's one is skinnier.
I doubt so. They didn't quite run with this after all:

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I think the particular silhouette of SSJ God was done on purpose. Like someone said, it's some divine stuff.

Almost like some ascetic concept. Just look at Dhalsim from Street Fighter for a rather cliché example.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by alakazam^ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:18 am

Bussani wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I swear they use to show up in the past. :crazy:
They would show up for you if they were in your browser's cache memory, which they would be (at least for a while) since you viewed them on a different site.
I can see his pictures and I haven't seen them before. It might be due to some tweaking I did some time ago in order to see imgur pictures on another forum.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:19 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies I know what you mean, it's going to seem weird once BOG is over and done with, it's actually quite saddening. :|

Re: Thinner Goku

I don't think Goku losing Muscle mass is anything important, I'm sure as hell he's got more strength than he did before the power-up. I really like the way he looks, it reminds me of Bruce Lee or something. :P

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Post by ドラゴ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:32 am

So has the "egg turning into dust" thing still not been identified as to what it represents?

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Post by Marco Polo » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:49 am

alakazam^ wrote:
Bussani wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I swear they use to show up in the past. :crazy:
They would show up for you if they were in your browser's cache memory, which they would be (at least for a while) since you viewed them on a different site.
I can see his pictures and I haven't seen them before. It might be due to some tweaking I did some time ago in order to see imgur pictures on another forum.
I think it has something to do with HTTP referer, but I'm really not an expert.

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Post by enjyu123 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:56 am

Guys I just heard on dragon ball legends that DBz will be dubbed by fox entertainment in 2 years or if fox chooses not too then Funimation gets dubbing rights. :(
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:59 am

enjyu123 wrote:Guys I just heard on dragon ball legends that DBz will be dubbed by fox entertainment in 2 years or if fox chooses not too then Funimation gets dubbing rights. :(
Nothing is confirmed, this is based on FUNimations statement that they think it will be two years before the movie is released here, and that FOX has first dibs.

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Post by fogdark » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:01 am

So, I sent a quick greeting to Yuusuke Watanabe on his Twitter, and I was pleasantly surprised to find a response when I woke up today. That was kinda cool :thumbup:
He thanks me and then tells me that if I see the movie to leave a comment and to let him know. Of course, this is his polite way of saying "let me know what you think of the film, although I've no idea when (or if) you'll get to see the movie in Spain" :lol:

Anyways, the idea of Super Saiyajin Goku's appearance is exactly that he doesn't look powerful. The group can't sense his godly power, and if anything he actually looks weaker. This is more heavily implied since we have first a failed attempt where Goku becomes apparently incredibly powerful, and the others can tell, until Piccolo points out that won't be nearly enough against Beers.If I think of it like that, then I have no problem whatsoever with Goku SSjG appearance.

And also, it's really cool to see that the movie is on the road to earn more than the 3 billion Yen Toei is aiming for. If it does really well, I don't see why we won't have at the very least another movie. I mean, Toriyama finds annoying drawing manga on a weekly basis, and being on a tight schedule, but he seems to have no problem coming up with new stories and designs for characters. So I can definitely see, perhaps in two years time, another movie where Toriyama is once again involved ...although perhaps not as much as in Battle of Gods.
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Post by Marco Polo » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:09 am

fogdark wrote:another movie where Toriyama is once again involved ...although perhaps not as much as in Battle of Gods.
Why not as much? If anything, I'd like him to come up with his own story next time, instead of editing someone's else's story concept.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:11 am

fogdark wrote:So I can definitely see, perhaps in two years time
I think it would be a poor business decision to wait another two years. Dragonball has received a big increase in popularity lately, and if they're smart, they will strike while the iron is hot. I wouldn't be surprised if a movie sequel or a new series is already in pre-production with concepts being worked on, and they are just waiting to see how well Battle of Gods does before going into full production.

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Post by ドラゴ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:20 am

ドラゴ wrote:So has the "egg turning into dust" thing still not been identified as to what it represents?
Herms, can you spread some light on this?

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Post by JeffJarrett » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:22 am

ドラゴ wrote:
ドラゴ wrote:So has the "egg turning into dust" thing still not been identified as to what it represents?
Herms, can you spread some light on this?
It represents Bills being angry when seeing Super Saiyan Goku fighting with Freeza (the egg was for his lunch/breakfast).

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Post by ドラゴ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:35 am

JeffJarrett wrote:
ドラゴ wrote:
ドラゴ wrote:So has the "egg turning into dust" thing still not been identified as to what it represents?
Herms, can you spread some light on this?
It represents Bills being angry when seeing Super Saiyan Goku fighting with Freeza (the egg was for his lunch/breakfast).
Who was Beers angry with, Freeza? I really thought the egg was a planet and had something to do with Freeza as Bills destroyed it whilst discussing the battle. I actually thought it represented Freeza's homeworld or something, since it was white, purple and spinning and Bills had some sort of "godly" hologram technique where he can pin up indivual planets on a whim and destroy them from his armchair. And whilst Freeza had been destroyed, his service or "side job" with Bills was simply up and Bills decided it was time to destroy Freeza's homeworld or a planet where the treaty with him was annexed. Haha. I think I overestimated this movie for it's plot depth, it's definitely more kid-friendly.

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:46 am

ドラゴ wrote:
Who was Beers angry with, Freeza? I really thought the egg was a planet and had something to do with Freeza as Bills destroyed it whilst discussing the battle. I actually thought it represented Freeza's homeworld or something, since it was white, purple and spinning and Bills had some sort of "godly" hologram technique where he can pin up indivual planets on a whim and destroy them from his armchair. And whilst Freeza had been destroyed, his service or "side job" with Bills was simply up and Bills decided it was time to destroy Freeza's homeworld or a planet where the treaty with him was annexed. Haha. I think I overestimated this movie for it's plot depth, it's definitely more kid-friendly.
I like this idea... in return for Bills sparing their homeworld, Freeza's race agreed to destroy other planets for him.

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Post by fogdark » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:53 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
fogdark wrote:So I can definitely see, perhaps in two years time
I think it would be a poor business decision to wait another two years. Dragonball has received a big increase in popularity lately, and if they're smart, they will strike while the iron is hot. I wouldn't be surprised if a movie sequel or a new series is already in pre-production with concepts being worked on, and they are just waiting to see how well Battle of Gods does before going into full production.
I say two years because of something that happened with One Piece's Eiichiro Oda.
When the One Piece movie, Strong World, came out, a little more than 2 years ago, it made a lot of money. Of course, it also helped that Oda had been heavily involved. A movie which, I believe, started the whole "heavy involvement of the original authors of manga in the movies" thing.
Anyways, during the promotion of the movie, Oda let it slip that he had told the producers that it was a better idea to make a movie every 2 years, instead of having a movie every year as they had been doing. That way, they had plenty of time to make a movie of great quality, both in animation and story.
Toei for some reason listened to him, and 2 years later One Piece finally got another movie, One Piece Film Z, which broke a lot of records, and beat Strong World, both in money, and apparently in story and animation as well. And I can certainly see Toei keeping this up for now.
Anyways, because of this, I wouldn't be surprised if Toei decides to try this with Dragon Ball, but we'll have to wait and see.
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fogdark wrote:another movie where Toriyama is once again involved ...although perhaps not as much as in Battle of Gods.
Why not as much? If anything, I'd like him to come up with his own story next time, instead of editing someone's else's story concept.
Oh, same here!, I think most of us, if not all, want Toriyama to be involved in future films, IF they happen. But then again, Toriyama doesn't like to be constricted, so I can see him getting tired of this movie business, and be reluctant to do it again, at least the "heavily involved" part. But I really want Toriyama to get even more involved if possible, in the future... :thumbup:
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:06 am

fogdark wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
fogdark wrote:So I can definitely see, perhaps in two years time
I think it would be a poor business decision to wait another two years. Dragonball has received a big increase in popularity lately, and if they're smart, they will strike while the iron is hot. I wouldn't be surprised if a movie sequel or a new series is already in pre-production with concepts being worked on, and they are just waiting to see how well Battle of Gods does before going into full production.
I say two years because of something that happened with One Piece's Eiichiro Oda.
When the One Piece movie, Strong World, came out, a little more than 2 years ago, it made a lot of money. Of course, it also helped that Oda had been heavily involved. A movie which, I believe, started the whole "heavy involvement of the original authors of manga in the movies" thing.
Anyways, during the promotion of the movie, Oda let it slip that he had told the producers that it was a better idea to make a movie every 2 years, instead of having a movie every year as they had been doing. That way, they had plenty of time to make a movie of great quality, both in animation and story.
Toei for some reason listened to him, and 2 years later One Piece finally got another movie, One Piece Film Z, which broke a lot of records, and beat Strong World, both in money, and apparently in story and animation as well. And I can certainly see Toei keeping this up for now.
Anyways, because of this, I wouldn't be surprised if Toei decides to try this with Dragon Ball, but we'll have to wait and see.
I hope you're wrong, because I don't want to wait another two years for more Dragonball. :) And the difference between OP and Dragonball is that OP has an ongoing anime/manga series that will keep the franchise popular during the two year wait, while Dragonball doesn't (yet).

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Post by ドラゴ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:08 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
ドラゴ wrote:
Who was Beers angry with, Freeza? I really thought the egg was a planet and had something to do with Freeza as Bills destroyed it whilst discussing the battle. I actually thought it represented Freeza's homeworld or something, since it was white, purple and spinning and Bills had some sort of "godly" hologram technique where he can pin up indivual planets on a whim and destroy them from his armchair. And whilst Freeza had been destroyed, his service or "side job" with Bills was simply up and Bills decided it was time to destroy Freeza's homeworld or a planet where the treaty with him was annexed. Haha. I think I overestimated this movie for it's plot depth, it's definitely more kid-friendly.
I like this idea... in return for Bills sparing their homeworld, Freeza's race agreed to destroy other planets for him.
I know right. Although, It would make Freeza, the strongest in the universe at his prime, seem "less" badass imo but not a far fetched trait since him and his father both have the capability to ask for mercy if it means they will gain the upperhand. I understand that Freeza also either destroyed or annexed planets that had the relevant resources he desired or that were potential threats.

If I remember correctly, his spacecraft had vast technology of the entire cosmos able to pick up relevant information of any particular planet's resources, aswell as the scouter picking up "rare" techniques of the inhabitants he encounters, eg, Namekian "regeneration". They should really expand on Freeza's exploits and dominion in-depth, like how he got to know of the secret of the Dragonballs. I also think that his particular race were not inherently ultra-intelligent species and were more like Xenomorphs from Aliens, and a few of them or maybe all of them evolved through the ages as evidence in unlocking hidden transformations, which was not just to conceal power. I think his third transformation and ability to speak in his native language gives off this idea of mine :think:

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:12 am

You know what would be interesting for the next story? Maybe the other Gods of Destruction have scouts that seek out planets for destruction and one of them shows up at Earth, and everyone mistakes him for an actual God of Destruction. A huge battle ensues with the Z warriors barely winning, at which point it is revealed that he is just a scout, and the real God of Destruction is on his way, and he's not going to be happy with the way his servant has been treated. And then maybe Bills shows up and fights along side Goku against the other God of Destruction, because if anyone is going to destroy the Earth, it's going to be Bills. :)

TOEI should hire me as a writer, hahaha
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Post by alakazam^ » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:14 am

ドラゴ wrote:If I remember correctly, his spacecraft had vast technology of the entire cosmos able to pick up relevant information of any particular planet's resources, aswell as the scouter picking up "rare" techniques of the inhabitants he encounters, eg, Namekian "regeneration". They should really expand on Freeza's exploits and dominion in-depth, like how he got to know of the secret of the Dragonballs. I also think that his particular race were not inherently ultra-intelligent species and were more like Xenomorphs from Aliens, and a few of them or maybe all of them evolved through the ages as evidence in unlocking hidden transformations, which was not just to conceal power. I think his third transformation and ability to speak in his native language gives off this idea of mine :think:
What are you talking about? Is that from the American dub?

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