False Dragon Ball Rumors You Actually Believed

[Thanos]

Most of the false information I believed stemmed from friends' false information before I had cable and could watch myself.

[Ringworm128]

Fell for the classic "Toriyama said Mystic Gohan was the strongest non-fused character".

[Kid Buu]

Toriyama wanted to end the series after Freeza.

[eledoremassis02]

Dragon Ball AF and all those AF games Hey..it was the early days of Internets xD

[ForestEquilibrium]

Don't recall much since I've always been quite a skeptic, but around the time the dubbed Androids episodes were just coming out I noted that #16 slightly resembled Recoome and my friend told me he was Recoome remade as an android (of course that one remark during the Namek fight in the Ocean dub didn't help), I kind of believed him at first but I still had a feeling of "dafuqutalkinaboot".

Also, this was my own misconception but when DBZ toys were first coming out (the SBC reissues and what not) I saw the figure of Perfect Cell and assumed he was actually a good guy because I didn't think he looked that evil (this was waaaayyy before the dubbed Cell arc episodes came out), of course had I seen his first form first I would've known his true nature right off the bat.

[DemonRin]

As a kid, me and my cousins bought into the "Son and Vegeta are Brothers" myth for some reason, have no idea why.

Also, we actually paid attention to the credits on stuff, and Seeing that "Toei Animation" made both Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon we thought they took place in the same universe for a while.

I also once believed for that Son was the "hope of the universe", the "answer to all living things that cry out for peace", the "protector of the innocent", the "the light in the darkness" and that he was "truth" and "Ally to good, Nightmare to" Freeza.

Glad I don't buy into that stuff anymore.

[Jord]

More family business; I believed Nappa was Vegeta's brother. (Although nobody ever DENIED that)

[Lance Freeman]

Well, that depends. I definitely bought into all of the horrible dub changes that Ocean did way back in the day, but that's really not a rumor, is it? I THINK I heard one a long time ago that said Goku died during the Cell Games when he was drained and absorbed by Cell.

[Cold Skin]

- Due to the French dub, I believed for quite a while - like many French fans - that Tullece was Goku's twin brother.

- Some stupid rumor had me and my brother believing that Goku could turn Super Saiyan 3 in Super Butoden 3 if he kept charging his ki for like an hour. We tried. Cause you know, it makes so much sense that a game would have you charging your ki in place for a whole hour for a transformation, it's just good game-pacing (and the opponent would surely let you do that too).

- Hyper Dimension: being disappointed at not having a story mode in France, but the story BGMs still being in the option menu (and translated), the rumor was quick to rise that there was a secret to unlock the story mode. But no. This has me thinking about the programming though: maybe the data was left on the released file and all that they did was taking out the first option on the main menu. What if someone skilled enough could simply make that erased first slot selectable again, or assign its original pathway to one of the three remaining slots? Would we have the Japanese story mode? Would we have a text-empty story mode? Would we have a "partially translated from before they found out they wouldn't have time to translate it all" story mode? Would we have a glitch/freeze due to data having been removed (I don't think they went as far as removing the story mode data though)? This mystery might never be solved...

[Blade]

Back in 2000 or so whilst I was just getting into Z via Toonami my friends at the time used to tell me that late at night the episodes of Z shown during the day were shown uncut with gruesome scenes of violence, blood and swearing.

Me being 10 year old found this insanely cool - so I used to try and stay awake secretly in my room and play Pokemon under the covers and then sneak downstairs after my parents went to bed to watch these 'uncut' episodes of Z.

[FindKenshi]

I believed that there was no Super Saiyan 4, and that what Goku and Vegeta became in DBGT was officially called "Super Goku 4" and "Super Vegeta 4" in Japan. I blame the Super 5 fansubs for this belief.

I was part of Super 5 and worked on those lol.

We sourced the video from Cantonese dubbed VCDs, which at the time had the best video quality available for GT, we ripped Japanese audio and transcribed the subtitles from VHS fansubs, synced the Japanese audio to the Cantonese VCDs, timed the subs, encoded to DivX, and then shared the videos via FTP servers hosted on our personal internet connections....and we did all that for free.

That's pretty cool to actually meet one of you guys... so who was DaBlackGoku? Every commercial break thing there were hateful messages on there towards him

[Metalwario64]

This has me thinking about the programming though: maybe the data was left on the released file and all that they did was taking out the first option on the main menu. What if someone skilled enough could simply make that erased first slot selectable again, or assign its original pathway to one of the three remaining slots? Would we have the Japanese story mode? Would we have a text-empty story mode? Would we have a "partially translated from before they found out they wouldn't have time to translate it all" story mode? Would we have a glitch/freeze due to data having been removed (I don't think they went as far as removing the story mode data though)? This mystery might never be solved...

I'm pretty sure they didn't go and delete all of the Story Mode data, but rather dummied it out in the options like you suggested, though you bring up an interesting question. I'm guessing we'd have garbled text, due to the replaced font.

It might be possible to see by making a save-state in an emulator with the Japanese one, then loading that save-state with the French ROM and seeing what happens. At first, it'd probably be the same as the Japanese version, because you're copying it's RAM, but if you play it for a while, any alterations should become apparent.

[Cursed Lemon]

Fell for the classic "Toriyama said Mystic Gohan was the strongest non-fused character".

Now, he never SAID this, but it's generally assumed to be correct, yes?

[Insertclevername]

Fell for the classic "Toriyama said Mystic Gohan was the strongest non-fused character".

Now, he never SAID this, but it's generally assumed to be correct, yes?

Pretty muchPrays for no one to start a BP debate. Just him saying that is what never happened.

[Ringworm128]

Fell for the classic "Toriyama said Mystic Gohan was the strongest non-fused character".

Now, he never SAID this, but it's generally assumed to be correct, yes?

Yes, but like with all things that are generally excepted there is at least one fan writing math equations in his/her basement in order to prove it wrong.

[Cold Skin]

This has me thinking about the programming though: maybe the data was left on the released file and all that they did was taking out the first option on the main menu. What if someone skilled enough could simply make that erased first slot selectable again, or assign its original pathway to one of the three remaining slots? Would we have the Japanese story mode? Would we have a text-empty story mode? Would we have a "partially translated from before they found out they wouldn't have time to translate it all" story mode? Would we have a glitch/freeze due to data having been removed (I don't think they went as far as removing the story mode data though)? This mystery might never be solved...

I'm pretty sure they didn't go and delete all of the Story Mode data, but rather dummied it out in the options like you suggested, though you bring up an interesting question. I'm guessing we'd have garbled text, due to the replaced font.

It might be possible to see by making a save-state in an emulator with the Japanese one, then loading that save-state with the French ROM and seeing what happens. At first, it'd probably be the same as the Japanese version, because you're copying it's RAM, but if you play it for a while, any alterations should become apparent.

I went a bit through it with the cheat search engine, and it seems that as unexpected as it might be, they really deleted the Story Mode, not only the option leading to it.

In the Japanese release, modes are encoded with those values:
00: Story
01: Battle
02: Tenkaichi Budokai
03: Training
04: Options

The coding hasn't been changed in the French ROM, the values are the same, which makes it easy to select the invisible Story mode option by forcing the value on 00 (works on the Japanese version on all modes).
But in the French version, forcing values indeed leads to all modes from 01 to 04 without a problem, but selecting the invisible Story Mode option leads to a black screen and crash (although when selecting the option, the screen fades out normally with the "selection jingle" as if it was going to work, proving the option is there and taken in account, the only problem is that once the transition is over, the pathway for this option is simply linked to void).

Likewise, in Super Butoden 3, the modes in the Japanese release are indeed associated to the usual values, starting at 00, meaning if there ever was a Story mode planned, it was given up quite early, it was not a last minute deletion, otherwise the 00 would have been the Story like in previous and following games, and like the French Hyper Dimension with the Story mode deleted, values would start to 01 for the first option as a result of option 00 being given up. But in the final release, the free battle mode is the 00 mode, meaning in their programming there was likely no mode preceding it implemented at any time.

We still have that Piccolo statue unused stage, but the fact that didn't even put Krilin's statue to go with it and that there was no room set for any other option in the values would tend to prove that a Story mode might have been planned, but very, very quickly discarded from any plans.

Those elements would have ended those rumors back then if there was access to it at the time! But nack then, it kept us in fascination for those "ultimate secrets" and busy trying to find how to access them at least!
And with those searches today, I find out that one of the palette swap turns Goku into Vegetto in Super Butoden 3, that's a pretty striking coincidence! Guess those rumors were untrue but served more than one purpose in the end, now I have some sort of "play as Vegetto" cheat code, and Vegetto wasn't even a rumor at the time!

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Two words: Sparking!! Omega.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I recently believed (because my friend told me) that Whis was the previous Dai Kaioshin who retired and the fat guy took his place.

[Ryuji-Otogi]

I believed Goku would turn Super Saiyan 5. Didn't know anything about the fake-AF or even GT at the time. There was just DBZ and my older cousin told me Goku would turn SSJ5 later on and I believed it.

I also thought Freeza was a girl when I first watched the show. Not even taking a crack at the dub--the voice just really had me fooled. lol

[Godo]

Fell for the classic "Toriyama said Mystic Gohan was the strongest non-fused character".

Now, he never SAID this, but it's generally assumed to be correct, yes?

Pretty muchPrays for no one to start a BP debate. Just him saying that is what never happened.

He said it alright...through the story.