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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by SaiyaJedi » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:54 pm

The "Library of Adventure" sections have all been printed in one shot, as "Design Library". They do something similar for GT in the front of the book.

The "All Story Digest" pages from the third, fifth, and supplemental Daizenshuu are also present and accounted for, plus a new section in the same format for GT.

Only one "Variety of DB" page made it through intact this time, from the Supplemental Daizenshuu. It shows Toriyama's redesigns of the Red Ribbon Army for the 10th Anniversary film. The "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 that showed conceptual art with different character designs has been omitted.

There are no "memorial" pages whatsoever.
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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:25 pm

So, Julian...anything good from the new material at first glance?

Just curious if I should be getting my hopes up waiting for translations of new info, or if they just reprinted what we already know (most specifically in regards to Battle of Gods)...
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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by DBZfan29 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:07 pm

I decided to go to Kinokuniya in New York today and was shocked to see the chozenshu on display! Here's all you need to know!

Cover: Daizenshuu 6
Poster: Toriyama's Battle of Gods cast/GT character chart
Dragon Ball GT Story Guide: Each page has 3 acts. No new illustrations, however. Everything is just screenshots.
GT Super Column 1: GT TV special with 3 acts and small character descriptions
GT Characters: Most major characters get their own page with enemies pages having
their accomplices (like No. 17 with Gero, Freeza, and Cell)
GT Design Library: 5 pages
GT Super Column 2: Toriyama image boards
Battle of Gods: 5 pages with only screenshots, no new illustrations
Daizenshuu 6 movie pages, Gallery of Toriyama
"Perfect Note:" 10th anniversary special pages (reprint)
DB, DBZ & Movies Design Library
All Story Digest with new GT episode listings
Daizenshuu 6 interview: there might be something else because it says "genten, soshite mirai e..." and then has a box with text

I especially like that the "All Story Digest" pages are consistent. I'm sad to read that there's still somethings missing!
An interviewer asks, "The soundtrack in Sonic 3 has become legendary. Is it true that you worked with Michael Jackson on it?" Takashi Iizuka kills all of our hopes and dreams by replying, "You know, those are just rumors, and SEGA does not want to say anything about them. So they will forever be just rumors..." WHY!?

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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:14 pm

Just a guess, how long do you guys think the Chozenshu will be in print?
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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by Tundra » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:24 pm

DBZfan29 wrote:I decided to go to Kinokuniya in New York today and was shocked to see the chozenshu on display! Here's all you need to know!

Cover: Daizenshuu 6
Poster: Toriyama's Battle of Gods cast/GT character chart
Dragon Ball GT Story Guide: Each page has 3 acts. No new illustrations, however. Everything is just screenshots.
GT Super Column 1: GT TV special with 3 acts and small character descriptions
GT Characters: Most major characters get their own page with enemies pages having
their accomplices (like No. 17 with Gero, Freeza, and Cell)
GT Design Library: 5 pages
GT Super Column 2: Toriyama image boards
Battle of Gods: 5 pages with only screenshots, no new illustrations
Daizenshuu 6 movie pages, Gallery of Toriyama
"Perfect Note:" 10th anniversary special pages (reprint)
DB, DBZ & Movies Design Library
All Story Digest with new GT episode listings
Daizenshuu 6 interview: there might be something else because it says "genten, soshite mirai e..." and then has a box with text

I especially like that the "All Story Digest" pages are consistent. I'm sad to read that there's still somethings missing!
I guess they were correct when they said "When combined with Part 1 it will become invincible".

For the GT character section does it include the different forms for Baby, Rilldo, and the Shadow Dragons.

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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by Raykugen » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:13 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:The "Library of Adventure" sections have all been printed in one shot, as "Design Library". They do something similar for GT in the front of the book.

The "All Story Digest" pages from the third, fifth, and supplemental Daizenshuu are also present and accounted for, plus a new section in the same format for GT.

Only one "Variety of DB" page made it through intact this time, from the Supplemental Daizenshuu. It shows Toriyama's redesigns of the Red Ribbon Army for the 10th Anniversary film. The "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 that showed conceptual art with different character designs has been omitted.

There are no "memorial" pages whatsoever.
There is no a illustration for Battle of Gods like the old movies?
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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by DBZfan29 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:39 pm

Tundra wrote:
DBZfan29 wrote:I decided to go to Kinokuniya in New York today and was shocked to see the chozenshu on display! Here's all you need to know!

Cover: Daizenshuu 6
Poster: Toriyama's Battle of Gods cast/GT character chart
Dragon Ball GT Story Guide: Each page has 3 acts. No new illustrations, however. Everything is just screenshots.
GT Super Column 1: GT TV special with 3 acts and small character descriptions
GT Characters: Most major characters get their own page with enemies pages having
their accomplices (like No. 17 with Gero, Freeza, and Cell)
GT Design Library: 5 pages
GT Super Column 2: Toriyama image boards
Battle of Gods: 5 pages with only screenshots, no new illustrations
Daizenshuu 6 movie pages, Gallery of Toriyama
"Perfect Note:" 10th anniversary special pages (reprint)
DB, DBZ & Movies Design Library
All Story Digest with new GT episode listings
Daizenshuu 6 interview: there might be something else because it says "genten, soshite mirai e..." and then has a box with text

I especially like that the "All Story Digest" pages are consistent. I'm sad to read that there's still somethings missing!
I guess they were correct when they said "When combined with Part 1 it will become invincible".

For the GT character section does it include the different forms for Baby, Rilldo, and the Shadow Dragons.
There are pictures for the different forms; I'm not sure what written information there is.
An interviewer asks, "The soundtrack in Sonic 3 has become legendary. Is it true that you worked with Michael Jackson on it?" Takashi Iizuka kills all of our hopes and dreams by replying, "You know, those are just rumors, and SEGA does not want to say anything about them. So they will forever be just rumors..." WHY!?

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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by Tundra » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:21 am

DBZfan29 wrote:
Tundra wrote:
DBZfan29 wrote:I decided to go to Kinokuniya in New York today and was shocked to see the chozenshu on display! Here's all you need to know!

Cover: Daizenshuu 6
Poster: Toriyama's Battle of Gods cast/GT character chart
Dragon Ball GT Story Guide: Each page has 3 acts. No new illustrations, however. Everything is just screenshots.
GT Super Column 1: GT TV special with 3 acts and small character descriptions
GT Characters: Most major characters get their own page with enemies pages having
their accomplices (like No. 17 with Gero, Freeza, and Cell)
GT Design Library: 5 pages
GT Super Column 2: Toriyama image boards
Battle of Gods: 5 pages with only screenshots, no new illustrations
Daizenshuu 6 movie pages, Gallery of Toriyama
"Perfect Note:" 10th anniversary special pages (reprint)
DB, DBZ & Movies Design Library
All Story Digest with new GT episode listings
Daizenshuu 6 interview: there might be something else because it says "genten, soshite mirai e..." and then has a box with text

I especially like that the "All Story Digest" pages are consistent. I'm sad to read that there's still somethings missing!
I guess they were correct when they said "When combined with Part 1 it will become invincible".

For the GT character section does it include the different forms for Baby, Rilldo, and the Shadow Dragons.
There are pictures for the different forms; I'm not sure what written information there is.
Thanks for the information, I probably won't receive my copy until next week.

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Re: The Chōzenshū databook thread: speculation, discussion,

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:59 am

SaiyaJedi wrote:The "Library of Adventure" sections have all been printed in one shot, as "Design Library". They do something similar for GT in the front of the book.

The "All Story Digest" pages from the third, fifth, and supplemental Daizenshuu are also present and accounted for, plus a new section in the same format for GT.

Only one "Variety of DB" page made it through intact this time, from the Supplemental Daizenshuu. It shows Toriyama's redesigns of the Red Ribbon Army for the 10th Anniversary film. The "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 that showed conceptual art with different character designs has been omitted.

There are no "memorial" pages whatsoever.
Awesome! Good to know the Library of Adventure is back! :D

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Post by DBZfan29 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:44 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:The "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 that showed conceptual art with different character designs has been omitted.
Does anyone have a high quality scan of this page? I'd like to print it out and stick it with the other movie pages.
An interviewer asks, "The soundtrack in Sonic 3 has become legendary. Is it true that you worked with Michael Jackson on it?" Takashi Iizuka kills all of our hopes and dreams by replying, "You know, those are just rumors, and SEGA does not want to say anything about them. So they will forever be just rumors..." WHY!?

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Post by JeffJarrett » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:17 pm

DBZfan29 wrote:
SaiyaJedi wrote:The "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 that showed conceptual art with different character designs has been omitted.
Does anyone have a high quality scan of this page? I'd like to print it out and stick it with the other movie pages.
You that image without having to buy the book??

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Post by DBZfan29 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:31 am

JeffJarrett wrote:
DBZfan29 wrote:
SaiyaJedi wrote:The "Next Movie" page from Daizenshuu 6 that showed conceptual art with different character designs has been omitted.
Does anyone have a high quality scan of this page? I'd like to print it out and stick it with the other movie pages.
You that image without having to buy the book??
Yes because the daizenshuu are out of print, and Animation Guide Part 2 omitted it for obvious reasons. I hope they'll at least include the sketches in the Chogashu. While on the subject of including things in future releases, does anyone see those Variety pages like the techniques and movie encyclopedia being thrown into the encyclopedia volume?
An interviewer asks, "The soundtrack in Sonic 3 has become legendary. Is it true that you worked with Michael Jackson on it?" Takashi Iizuka kills all of our hopes and dreams by replying, "You know, those are just rumors, and SEGA does not want to say anything about them. So they will forever be just rumors..." WHY!?

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:39 pm

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/databook/chozenshu/vol-03/

Here you go. Too tired to make an update on the main page.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:05 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:http://www.kanzenshuu.com/databook/chozenshu/vol-03/

Here you go. Too tired to make an update on the main page.
...congrats on linking the third Chozenshu volume's links to the third tankobon volume's page? xD
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:20 pm

It redirects to to the Tankobon page?!
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:51 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It redirects to to the Tankobon page?!
Hmm, yea even if you go through the "Data Book Guide" section.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/databook/chozenshu/

Oh well, shit happens. I'm sure once he's aware of the mistake it'll be fixed. No biggie.

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Post by Raykugen » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:53 pm

Yeah, for me it happens the same
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Post by Tundra » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:04 pm

I forgot to ask in the "Design Library" does it character sheets for Kid Buu, Bibidi, the three Supreme Kais and the Grand Supreme Kai, and the Giant Worms that appeared in Super Buu's stomach. I know in Daizenshu 5 it was mentioned in the next time section, but were never covered in the Supplemental Daizenshu.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:55 pm

Nice. :)

Question, does it say anything about Gohan & Vegeta being Super Saiyan 2 in the GT Characters section?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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